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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Agent H

Well-Known Member
I think Tron has more mass appeal, but do agree on Club 33 (if that gets made).
Tron is another thing where I think the hype is there but so far it hasn’t shown up in the box office. It’s another example of Disney making films that flop but go on to become well loved and successful. As for club 33 I hope it gets made. I still think it’s a mistake to not go all in the theme park attraction movies.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
The goal is to make money of course, especially for movie only studios.
I don't even know if we can even say that 100% because studios like A24 and Neon produce films they know will never see a dime of profit. That is the nature of their existence, they just hope they make enough to cover costs.

But for Disney, there's also the goal of making life long fans. That's why Disney parks and Disney+ do consistently well even when they don't have the latest hot hit. They don't solely need to rely on the latest blockbuster to draw in guests.
Agreed, and that means that you have to pump out movies even if they don't see a direct ROI from the theaters. Several here that were part of this discussion complained recently that Disney is just pumping out content, like duh. ;)
 

DKampy

Well-Known Member
For the awareness, no? For cases like these the theatrical release provides credibility and tells the millions of D+ subscribers what movies will be arriving before too long.
Which is why Streaming makes it even more difficult to decipher a movie’s worth in the theatrical window…the data is in….movies do better via streaming if those movies hit theaters first….it’s obvious when a movie like Companions is released wide to great reviews…show up on PVOD a week later….then Max shortly after that….Disney is just more patient then other studios
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
And in an example of theaters getting panicked about its future amid a slow 2025, AMC is introducing 50% Wednesday's at the height of the summer season, ie they don't have any faith in 2025 bringing in bodies -


And remember its the theaters that set the ticket prices NOT studios.
 

Ayla

Well-Known Member
I don’t even know what your point is anymore.. doing these little dances…as far as I can tell Bob Iger has really affected your thought process… and are not happy with anyone giving Disney money… sort of a “ do as I say not as I do”

You are the first who made a comment on the “art house” studio…. I assumed you
Meant Searchlight Studios…. You complain about others with excuses…. Most others on this board I have not seen change their thoughts But you created so much confusion with your word salad…just to spin a Disney is a failure narrative
All while willingly handing over thousands of dollars a year on multiple trips...
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
Sometimes they do.
Nah.

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brideck

Well-Known Member
I don't even want to ask what "Clown In A Cornfield" might be.

This looks hilarious, by the way. I hope I can catch it while it's out. Made for less than $1m, it's already made a profit after having the biggest opening for an IFC release (bigger than last year's Late Night with the Devil).

Based on an award-winning YA horror book, there are two others in the series so far, so I would expect there might be sequels coming before too long.

It'll be interesting to see if Disney ever does seriously try to get into the lower budget horror segment. The First Omen is really the only one so far, and its budget was a bit high for the genre, it was designed for streaming, and it was part of a legacy franchise, so not really the same kind of play.
 

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
This looks hilarious, by the way. I hope I can catch it while it's out. Made for less than $1m, it's already made a profit after having the biggest opening for an IFC release (bigger than last year's Late Night with the Devil).

Based on an award-winning YA horror book, there are two others in the series so far, so I would expect there might be sequels coming before too long.

It'll be interesting to see if Disney ever does seriously try to get into the lower budget horror segment. The First Omen is really the only one so far, and its budget was a bit high for the genre, it was designed for streaming, and it was part of a legacy franchise, so not really the same kind of play.
I don't think they would ever compare to Blum House.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Sinners is the most impressive hit of the year. Coogler stands alongside Nolan as the most impressive of this vanguard of newer filmmakers.

If only Disney had a project produced by its creator in the can, ready to drop in a little more than a month. Would be great to promote such a project, especially if it ties in to the future of the MCU.

I mean, surely they wouldn’t be giving such a project the Echo treatment.
Ask and you shall receive -

 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
And in an example of theaters getting panicked about its future amid a slow 2025, AMC is introducing 50% Wednesday's at the height of the summer season, ie they don't have any faith in 2025 bringing in bodies -


And remember its the theaters that set the ticket prices NOT studios.
I see this good for theaters, as been said on these boards, theaters are in business to sell concessions, more bodies, more concessions sold.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I see this good for theaters, as been said on these boards, theaters are in business to sell concessions, more bodies, more concessions sold.
I think you're missing the forest through the trees here. A deep discount like this means they are worried they aren't going to get enough consumers through the door to cover costs, ie they are worried about the bottom falling out of theatrical. Pretty soon it'll be discounts during the week and only full price on weekends just to get consumers back.
 

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
I think you're missing the forest through the trees here. A deep discount like this means they are worried they aren't going to get enough consumers through the door to cover costs, ie they are worried about the bottom falling out of theatrical. Pretty soon it'll be discounts during the week and only full price on weekends just to get consumers back.
I see nothing wrong with that. They've always had different prices for different showings. An afternoon showing was cheaper than an evening show.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I see nothing wrong with that. They've always had different prices for different showings. An afternoon showing was cheaper than an evening show.
True, matinee shows were cheaper. And then they added discount days, so it used to be just Tuesdays were discount days all day. Now they've added a second day, and I've seen talks about more. This shows they aren't getting the bodies in the theaters they expect, ie they are worried as ticket sales continue to dwindle year-after-year.
 

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
True, matinee shows were cheaper. And then they added discount days, so it used to be just Tuesdays were discount days all day. Now they've added a second day, and I've seen talks about more. This shows they aren't getting the bodies in the theaters they expect, ie they are worried as ticket sales continue to dwindle year-after-year.
There isn't a lot of movies that are must see events lately. Hopefully Lilo & Stitch, HTTYD and Fan 4 will draw them in. Theaters were packed for the weekend ROTS re-release.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
There isn't a lot of movies that are must see events lately. Hopefully Lilo & Stitch, HTTYD and Fan 4 will draw them in. Theaters were packed for the weekend ROTS re-release.
I agree that 2025 has been bleak so far in terms of releases. But this isn't a new trend in terms of declining ticket sales, its been declining for years (even before the pandemic). Something that we've talked about in this and other threads over the last couple years. Some want to deny it, but the trend is clear. If things don't improve 2025 will look to bring in the same as 2022 or lower which outside of 2020/21 when theaters were just reopening would be the lowest in the post-pandemic era.
 

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