Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[DisneyWarrior27]

With that number there is no hope whatsoever for revival of hand drawn animation.

Maybe if mainstream studios would market them actively and better, they wouldn’t fail.

Hopefully, Sony will be able to have some balls to distribute and actively and better market Fixed if they choose to distribute that movie on their own after the success of One Of Them Days.

 

[Trauma]

Carano was asked by Disney to apologise and refused (as was her right). Had she said sorry, her situation would presumably have been handled differently.

Why allow it to happen to begin with? It’s certainly not helping anything.

There are many jobs that pay far less that you are not allowed to speak about certain subjects.

 

[LittleBuford]

The double standard is we are much more likely to forgive someone we agree with, much less likely to forgive someone we disagree with.

That’s true of fans and companies, Pedro Pascal made similarly inflammatory comments but since his were aligned with Hollywoods beliefs he’s still on the payroll. He wasn’t asked to take sensitivity classes, etc, just issue a nothing apology so they could cast him in more Disney roles.

But the point is that Carano could also have remained on the Disney payroll had she issued a similar “nothing apology”. People keep holding her up as proof of Disney’s double standards while ignoring the fact that she knowingly chose to make herself an exception.

 

[LittleBuford]

Why allow it to happen to begin with? It’s certainly not helping anything.

There are many jobs that pay far less that you are not allowed to speak about certain subjects.

That’s a separate debate. I myself am not in favour of muzzling celebrities. To my mind, they have just as much right to speak out as anyone else.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

I don’t particularly care about Zegler, but I do care about the toxic bullying, normalized hatred, bad faith victimhood, and gleeful cruelty that drive this story and defines the country at the moment.

I have nothing against Zegler, like I said, it was definitely a missed opportunity for a better approach.
Country is still the same as it was in 2000, 2010,
2020.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

But the point is that Carano could also have remained on the Disney payroll had she issues a similar “nothing apology”. People keep holding her up as proof of Disney’s double standards while ignoring the fact that she knowingly chose to make herself an exception.

Apparently not since that’s part of her lawsuit….

She also said the company demanded she put out an apology, which she described as “one of those statements that almost makes you roll your eyes.” Carano offered to write her own apology which reportedly underwent several edits before the effort was ultimately abandoned.

 

[Trauma]

It’s so weird that so many folks wants to forget how this issue began no matter how often they’re reminded.

It seems to me the people who deserve the harshest criticism here are the mob of people who attacked an actress because of her race, not the actress who said something unwise after months of relentless attacks.

The same thing is happening right now with Potter.

Celebrities know what going to happen if they take a role like this.

Snape is very clearly described in the books many times.

Not to mention that Harry doesn’t trust him just because of how he looks.

How does that sound now?

Hey look a black professor, I certainly don’t trust him!

 

[Casper Gutman]

Country is still the same as it was in 2000, 2010,
2020.

This would be an ahistorical statement in any era, but in a period undergoing the most dramatic political and cultural changes since the 60s it demonstrates how determined a lot of people are to believe nothing ever changes despite all evidence.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

That’s a separate debate. I myself am not in favour of muzzling celebrities. To my mind, they have just as much right to speak out as anyone else.

I agree in their personal life but it gets far more tricky when they are representing their employer, we have a very strict press policy where I work, everyone knows better than to comment on anything to the press, even praising your employer can get you fired if you’re discussing company business without permission.

 

[LittleBuford]

Apparently not since that’s part of her lawsuit….

She also said the company demanded she put out an apology, which she described as “one of those statements that almost makes you roll your eyes.” Carano offered to write her own apology which reportedly underwent several edits before the effort was ultimately abandoned.

I don’t understand what “apparently not” refers to. She was asked to put out a company-approved apology and refused. Is that not the case, even by her own telling?

 

[LittleBuford]

I agree in their personal life but it gets far more tricky when they are representing their employer, we have a very strict press policy where I work, everyone knows better than to comment on anything to the press, even praising your employer can get you fired if you’re discussing company business without permission.

Agreed, but I don’t think either Carano or Zegler was claiming to represent Disney when they issued their statements.

 

[Trauma]

I agree in their personal life but it gets far more tricky when they are representing their employer, we have a very strict press policy where I work, everyone knows better than to comment on anything to the press, even praising your employer can get you fired if you’re discussing company business without permission.

Exactly these type of policy’s are common in many workplaces. So average people can’t speak out, but celebrities who are getting payed far more can say whatever they want ?

 

[TP2000]

To reiterate, a cacophony of voices, led by some of the most powerful people in the nation, attacked Zegler relentlessly because of her race.

I vaguely remember a few years ago people commenting that it was odd or "cringey" for Disney to choose a Latina actress to play a white European Princess, but I don't remember the "attacks". And I certainly don't remember any of the most powerful people in the nation doing that. But I'm guessing I have a very different definition of what constitutes this country's most powerful people.

I would classify those people as, roughly in order; the sitting President, senior Cabinet members, prominent Governors of the half dozen biggest states, key captains of Industry like Elon Musk, Jeff Zuckerberg, and Jeff Bezos, key banking leaders in New York, investors like Warren Buffet, and then also perhaps a few key media or celebrity figures like Oprah, Joe Rogan, George Clooney, etc.

Who exactly do you classify as "the most powerful people in the nation"?

I don’t know about national treasure but she is extremely likable, very talented, and was well cast. (In my defense I can’t think of anyone I’d call a national treasure )

I caught that "national treasure" line too and thought.... uh, really?

Off the top of my head, and we've lost quite a few in the past 15 years, but here's who I think is a living national treasure in 2025;

Dolly Parton
Steve Martin
Diana Ross
Stevie Wonder
Harrison Ford

I'm sure there's a couple from the world of sports, but that's who I've got. The list is dwindling fast it seems.

 

[Trauma]

Agreed, but I don’t think either Carano or Zegler was claiming to represent Disney when they issued their statements.

When you are actively involved in a project everything you say and do represents Disney.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

This would be an ahistorical statement in any era, but in a period undergoing the most dramatic political and cultural changes since the 60s it demonstrates how determined a lot of people are to believe nothing ever changes despite all evidence.

One of the rare times we are on the same side, I think we’ve gotten increasingly more divided every year since the early 2000s. Maybe I was just a naive kid then but I don’t recall half the hate and divisiveness we have now in the 80s and 90s.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

This would be an ahistorical statement in any era, but in a period undergoing the most dramatic political and cultural changes since the 60s it demonstrates how determined a lot of people are to believe nothing ever changes despite all evidence.

Please…
How much to you think Snow White will make?
I’m guessing 600 million.

 

[LittleBuford]

When you are actively involved in a project everything you say and do represents Disney.

I don’t agree. I am a huge Disney fan and have no idea what any of these actors is saying except when it gets reported here in the forum. I have about as much interest in their personal lives or opinions as I do those of the park CMs.

 

[Trauma]

One of the rare times we are on the same side, I think we’ve gotten increasingly more divided every year since the early 2000s. Maybe I was just a naive kid then but I don’t recall half the hate and divisiveness we have now in the 80s and 90s.

Well I think the solution to this problem is to have our celebrities insult half the country in their free time.

That should help.

 

[Agent H]

I don’t know about national treasure but she is extremely likable, very talented, and was well cast. (In my defense I can’t think of anyone I’d call a national treasure )

I don’t throw that term around lightly. I truly mean it. She’s the best young actress I’ve seen in years.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

I don’t agree. I am a huge Disney fan and have no idea what any of these actors is saying except when it gets reported here in the forum. I have about as much interest in their personal lives or opinions as I do those of the park CMs.

You don’t but man the internet sure does. People make a living on what celebrities say and do.
When I scroll for baseball news on X it’s everywhere.. always someone in the spot light. Blake lively the latest.