Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[LittleBuford]

Apparently not since that’s part of her lawsuit….

She also said the company demanded she put out an apology, which she described as “one of those statements that almost makes you roll your eyes.” Carano offered to write her own apology which reportedly underwent several edits before the effort was ultimately abandoned.

I don’t understand what “apparently not” refers to. She was asked to put out a company-approved apology and refused. Is that not the case, even by her own telling?

 

[LittleBuford]

I agree in their personal life but it gets far more tricky when they are representing their employer, we have a very strict press policy where I work, everyone knows better than to comment on anything to the press, even praising your employer can get you fired if you’re discussing company business without permission.

Agreed, but I don’t think either Carano or Zegler was claiming to represent Disney when they issued their statements.

 

[Trauma]

I agree in their personal life but it gets far more tricky when they are representing their employer, we have a very strict press policy where I work, everyone knows better than to comment on anything to the press, even praising your employer can get you fired if you’re discussing company business without permission.

Exactly these type of policy’s are common in many workplaces. So average people can’t speak out, but celebrities who are getting payed far more can say whatever they want ?

 

[TP2000]

To reiterate, a cacophony of voices, led by some of the most powerful people in the nation, attacked Zegler relentlessly because of her race.

I vaguely remember a few years ago people commenting that it was odd or "cringey" for Disney to choose a Latina actress to play a white European Princess, but I don't remember the "attacks". And I certainly don't remember any of the most powerful people in the nation doing that. But I'm guessing I have a very different definition of what constitutes this country's most powerful people.

I would classify those people as, roughly in order; the sitting President, senior Cabinet members, prominent Governors of the half dozen biggest states, key captains of Industry like Elon Musk, Jeff Zuckerberg, and Jeff Bezos, key banking leaders in New York, investors like Warren Buffet, and then also perhaps a few key media or celebrity figures like Oprah, Joe Rogan, George Clooney, etc.

Who exactly do you classify as "the most powerful people in the nation"?

I don’t know about national treasure but she is extremely likable, very talented, and was well cast. (In my defense I can’t think of anyone I’d call a national treasure )

I caught that "national treasure" line too and thought.... uh, really?

Off the top of my head, and we've lost quite a few in the past 15 years, but here's who I think is a living national treasure in 2025;

Dolly Parton
Steve Martin
Diana Ross
Stevie Wonder
Harrison Ford

I'm sure there's a couple from the world of sports, but that's who I've got. The list is dwindling fast it seems.

 

[Trauma]

Agreed, but I don’t think either Carano or Zegler was claiming to represent Disney when they issued their statements.

When you are actively involved in a project everything you say and do represents Disney.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

This would be an ahistorical statement in any era, but in a period undergoing the most dramatic political and cultural changes since the 60s it demonstrates how determined a lot of people are to believe nothing ever changes despite all evidence.

One of the rare times we are on the same side, I think we’ve gotten increasingly more divided every year since the early 2000s. Maybe I was just a naive kid then but I don’t recall half the hate and divisiveness we have now in the 80s and 90s.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

This would be an ahistorical statement in any era, but in a period undergoing the most dramatic political and cultural changes since the 60s it demonstrates how determined a lot of people are to believe nothing ever changes despite all evidence.

Please…
How much to you think Snow White will make?
I’m guessing 600 million.

 

[LittleBuford]

When you are actively involved in a project everything you say and do represents Disney.

I don’t agree. I am a huge Disney fan and have no idea what any of these actors is saying except when it gets reported here in the forum. I have about as much interest in their personal lives or opinions as I do those of the park CMs.

 

[Trauma]

One of the rare times we are on the same side, I think we’ve gotten increasingly more divided every year since the early 2000s. Maybe I was just a naive kid then but I don’t recall half the hate and divisiveness we have now in the 80s and 90s.

Well I think the solution to this problem is to have our celebrities insult half the country in their free time.

That should help.

 

[Agent H]

I don’t know about national treasure but she is extremely likable, very talented, and was well cast. (In my defense I can’t think of anyone I’d call a national treasure )

I don’t throw that term around lightly. I truly mean it. She’s the best young actress I’ve seen in years.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

I don’t agree. I am a huge Disney fan and have no idea what any of these actors is saying except when it gets reported here in the forum. I have about as much interest in their personal lives or opinions as I do those of the park CMs.

You don’t but man the internet sure does. People make a living on what celebrities say and do.
When I scroll for baseball news on X it’s everywhere.. always someone in the spot light. Blake lively the latest.

 

[Trauma]

I don’t agree. I am a huge Disney fan and have no idea what any of these actors is saying except when it gets reported here in the forum. I have about as much interest in their personal lives or opinions as I do those of the park CMs.

So if you managed an investment firm you wouldn’t care what your employees said on social ?

 

[LittleBuford]

You don’t but man the internet sure does. People make a living on what celebrities say and do.
When I scroll for baseball news on X it’s everywhere.. always someone in the spot light. Blake lively the latest.

I find it very easy to skip stories I have no interest in. Celebrity news is a big industry, and I used to be into it in my younger years, but I have very little time for it now.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Actors are cast based on the number of Instagram followers they have. I’d be happy hurling all social media into the sun, but it’s not a practical suggestion for an industry driven by fame.

 

[LittleBuford]

So if you managed an investment firm you wouldn’t care what your employees said on social ?

I didn’t say that. I wouldn’t try to control what they said on their own personal profiles, but if one of them posted something inflammatory or offensive, I would expect them to face the appropriate consequences.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Well I think the solution to this problem is to have our celebrities insult half the country in their free time.

That should help.

I suspect it’s not a coincidence that the rise of social media has mirrored the rise of divisiveness in the country.

Pretty hard to diss someone to their face, much easier to do it anonymously online.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Also, if Gina Carano could act at all she’d have weathered her controversy more easily.

Carano got an ABSURD amount of breaks. One of cinemas foremost auteurs fashioned a star vehicle around her and surrounded her with some of the greatest character actors in Hollywood when she had no acting experience. She made a choice to throw that away by not apologizing.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I’d be happy hurling all social media into the sun

100% agree

but it’s not a practical suggestion for an industry driven by fame.

Agree, especially in a country founded on free speech, I loathe social media, loathe cancel culture even more, but the upside of free speech is countered with the downside of consequences.

I just wish it was applied more evenly, which is impossible since the people making the decisions, or writing the AI, are humans and biased.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

 

[Agent H]

When you are actively involved in a project everything you say and do represents Disney.

I work at Taco Bell. Should everything I post on here represent Taco Bell? Or should it be considered an entirely separate part of my life?