Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[BrianLo]

I would say that’s a fair range

But I also bet (without looking) that over on the captain falcon thread there are at least a few posters diagraming how it is “profitable”

…cause aren’t they all?

You'd be incorrect.

There's fair consensus it is missing the mark of 450 or even Deadline's 425 more generous (and likely informed) cut off. Either way it didn't and won't make it.

 

[brideck]

Are those current, I only ask because I saw a report the Looney tunes movie was already being pulled from a lot of theaters with many likely going to SW.

Sad to see a hand drawn animated movie flop so spectacularly, another nail in the hand drawn animation coffin, I didn’t even know it existed, they did a horrible job of marketing it.

Yeah, I saw that rumor, too, and its demise has been overstated. (The World of Reel piece about that seems to have vanished as well.) Looney Tunes has 17 screenings in my theaters, which is down from its full booking of 26 [basically one screen at each of the 6 theaters x4 or 5 screenings] at its opening last weekend. How quickly it disappears will depend on the competition in the family space -- this weekend there's still Dog Man (9), Paddington in Peru (8), and Mufasa (5), along with Snow White, of course. They've all got two weekends until Minecraft shows up.

 

[Casper Gutman]

That’s fair. In my view, I generally try and separate the art from the artist. A few clear exceptions, in my mind, are: R. Kelly, Kevin Spacey, and more recently, Puff Daddy and Kanye West. Can no longer tolerate their att knowing what they’ve done/are doing. Closer calls are Mel Gibson, who seems genuinely contrite about his sins and also was an alcoholic during those terrible times. Which is also the same reason I can look past Baldwin’s issues. *

*I also try not to let my view of the worthiness of their art work on a sliding scale in terms of how much I’m willing to look past. Chinatown is a perfect test case in that scenario.

Gibson is one of the most magnetic and dynamic performers of the last four decades and I really wanted to believe he changed, but recent evidence implies very strongly that he hasn’t. I’d also add Polanski and Woody Allen to the list of artists I can’t really enjoy anymore.

 

[Ghost93]

That’s fair. In my view, I generally try and separate the art from the artist. A few clear exceptions, in my mind, are: R. Kelly, Kevin Spacey, and more recently, Puff Daddy and Kanye West. Can no longer tolerate their att knowing what they’ve done/are doing. Closer calls are Mel Gibson, who seems genuinely contrite about his sins and also was an alcoholic during those terrible times. Which is also the same reason I can look past Baldwin’s issues. *

*I also try not to let my view of the worthiness of their art work on a sliding scale in terms of how much I’m willing to look past. Chinatown is a perfect test case in that scenario.

I think it depends on the movie. I think Spacey tends to play very evil and slimy characters, so knowing he's a bad person doesn't really ruin my image of his roles in Seven, House of Cards, etc. American Beauty IS harder to enjoy since the plot of the movie revolves around a middle aged man being attracted to his teenage daughter's friend and knowing what we know now about Spacey and minors ... yikes.

As for R Kelly, while I wouldn't purchase any new work of his I probably wouldn't be phased too much if I happened to hear a song of his.. For example, if someone were to play "I Believe I could Fly" my mind would probably drift to thinking about Space Jam or Nike rather than R Kelly's scandals.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Fascinating reddit thread of theatre workers talking about how utterly abysmal presales are for Snow White-



This is looking to be a maseive bomb.

 

[DKampy]

I don't think that's really a fair assessment. From my observation, and my own opinion. When people say they don't care what celebrities say, they don't want hear them preaching to us. Things like, their political views, environmental stuff, the economy... Not many want to hear about the environment or the cost of groceries from people flying around on private jets making millions

But people can relate with the oligarchs in charge flying to their own private resort in Florida for a weekly golf vacation

As a film fan I personally don’t care what an actor says off screen…. All I care about is the end product…. Including Gina Carano… I don’t agree with her statements or political views, but that does not stop me from enjoying her work on the Mandalorian

From my viewpoint…. As someone who grew up at the time of Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon… politics have always been apart of Hollywood…. Even in the 1940’s and 1950’s people were accusing Hollywood of being communists

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Wait, you’re seriously saying it’s normal to emigrate because you hate the leader of your country?! That seems a rather extraordinary step to take in my opinion. I very much doubt people would have reacted so calmly to those remarks had they come from Zegler.

Countless people threaten to move every election, he just has the means and the fortitude to do it. My own brother tried to move to Canada in 2016, their immigration laws are so strict he couldn’t get a Visa though.

I’m trying whatever I can within reason. We have a scouting trip to Costa Rica coming up in a couple of weeks (worst case scenario, a fun visit.)

If things continue the way they are going, and if my marriage is messed with, we’ll sell everything and move to Australia if we can get in. (I know a business owner there who would “sponsor” me, if necessary.

Hate is a word I dislike and was raised to use rarely, but this is more about preserving my way of life before I’m too old or drop dead. I absolutely will not accept any tampering with my nearly 18 year marriage, and I am willing to lose everything to flee if it comes to that. This is different than last time.

Quit lying about this stuff. People don't like her because she is an awful and pompous person. Everyone normal is sick of you guys lying about this stuff. To deflect criticism.

That’s it. We’re done. Saw that coming weeks ago.

LP

That would be a “long play” vinyl album!

At this point, I’m ready to go to an early screening on Thursday if scheduling allows - before hearing any reviews.

 

[TP2000]

I hope Snow White makes $900 mil and is a blockbuster.

Then maybe Iger can finally afford to improve the parks.

Don't be silly. Disneyland is about to celebrate it's 70th birthday with no new shows, a 10 year old parade brought out of mothballs, and a Walt Disney animatronic show only nerds like us will go see that has just been delayed until July.

There's no money for the parks. We've got to keep the Craft Services table full at all the Burbank studio productions!

So anyways as the outsider looking in,(I have no horse in the race) is SW looking like this barely squeaks out a profit or is it going to be in the realm of Eternals, Cap 4 or the Marvels?

With it's production budget around $250 Million after the British taxpayers send Burbank a check for $55 Million, Snow White would need around $650 Million to breakeven. Judging by the pre-sales at my local multiplex, and the dismal buzz thus far, I don't think it's going to make it to $650 Million globally.

But perhaps the overseas markets will surprise us? After all, a couple Billion foreigners and their pocketbooks aren't controlled by what @Casper Gutman calls "the most powerful people in the country" when it comes to deciding which movie to see on a Saturday night. Or are they?

Between men and women most genres were somewhat close, but the one that had the widest range? Musicals. Men on average had it as their least favorite by the largest margin.

These are clearly men that I don't hang out with at Sunday brunch.