Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Vegas Disney Fan]

People many many decades older than her are just as if not more so as opinionated and also say things without thinking.

While I agree I don’t think (or at least hope) most of us have never wished ill will on others simply because we hold different opinions.

That’s the difference for me, I can disagree with you 90% of the time but still respect your opinion and enjoy arguing with you, we could have the most heated argument ever on this forum (and send mom into palpitations and a delete frenzy) and I still wouldn’t wish ill will on you, I might mutter some names about you under my breathe but that would be the extent of it, and the next day might like a dozen of your posts while we are on the same side of a different argument.

Buddy and I got into such heated arguments back in the day I think we both blocked each other for sanity sake… yet I was still happy to hear Tony say he’s doing well the other day when his name was brought up. We couldn’t have been more opposed in opinions but I still viewed him as a Disney compatriot. CA Elitist and I were more 75/25 in our disagreements but it still bothers me one of her last posts was about not assuming we’d be alive and healthy in 2025 so go out and enjoy life, I hope that wasn’t a cryptic message and hope she just got busy doing other things but it still bothers me she has been so quiet since that post.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

@TP2000 , I've been looking at the presold seats at the Irvine Spectrum for Snow White, 99.9% of available seats still available.

The current fullest 4DX showing in Irvine of any of the showings available at the theatre-

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These are the ONLY RDX showing seats booked in Irvine of ANY of the showings available at the theatre. All other showings are completely open-

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The current fullest 4DX showing in Irvine of any of the showings available at the theatre-

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ZERO of the available ScreenX showing seats are reserved...

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The current fullest VIP showing in Irvine of any of the showings available at the theatre. Most seats of any showing available-

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Note- Other than a couple of additional theatres with 2 or 4 reserved seats... all other showings are 100% unbooked right now, like 95% of theatres currently empty.

 

[Disney Irish]

While I agree I don’t think (or at least hope) most of us have never wished ill will on others simply because we hold different opinions.

That’s the difference for me, I can disagree with you 90% of the time but still respect your opinion and enjoy arguing with you, we could have the most heated argument ever on this forum (and send mom into palpitations and a delete frenzy) and I still wouldn’t wish ill will on you, I might mutter some names about you under my breathe but that would be the extent of it, and the next day might like a dozen of your posts while we are on the same side of a different argument.

This gets into the “say things without thinking” category. We’ve all seen many many many people of varying ages all say things off the cuff without thinking in a moment of emotion and later regret and take it back. That incident is no different in my opinion. And I’ve seen much much much worse said over the last 4-8 years by both sides.

We’re all human and we have to remember that no one is perfect no matter whether they are on screen or not.

 

[Farerb]

Least TDTEBUALTM opened to #5 but with only $3.2M

With that number there is no hope whatsoever for revival of hand drawn animation.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

This gets into the “say things without thinking” category. We’ve all seen many many many people of varying ages all say things off the cuff without thinking in a moment of emotion and later regret and take it back. That incident is no different in my opinion. And I’ve seen much much much worse said over the last 4-8 years by both sides.

We’re all human and we have to remember that no one is perfect no matter whether they are on screen or not.

This is one of the primary reasons my social media consists of Facebook and the WDWMagic forums, hard to get in trouble if you aren’t venting every thought online for the whole world to see.

 

[Farerb]

This is one of the primary reasons my social media consists of Facebook and the WDWMagic forums, hard to get in trouble if you aren’t venting every thought online for the whole world to see.

I was never able to find a Disney Facebook group that isn't just meme spamming. But I agree I tend to go to message boards, only keeping Twitter to get news about upcoming movies but I rarely if ever interact with anyone there. I hate that place.

 

[Phroobar]

My nieces are 13 and one of them is interested in seeing this movie, the other isn't interested in movies at all, but she comes along anyway.

Good thing there are only two 13 year old girls in the world to make that statement true.

 

[Disney Irish]

This is one of the primary reasons my social media consists of Facebook and the WDWMagic forums, hard to get in trouble if you aren’t venting every thought online for the whole world to see.

We’re from a different generation, one before the internet and social media. We grew up as the internet was getting started and social media was founded. Her generation doesn’t know a world without social media. Whereas our generation might go have a beer and vent to a stranger at a bar, their generation uses social media to vent.

So I say cut a little slack here, they’ll find their way and it appears she has for the most part. She’ll get past this time and be fine.

 

[Trauma]

I know people are going to claim that they would be in full support of her, but if she made those same comments accept in the opposite direction about team blue, I would have loved to see how supportive this forum was of her.

We will never know, but I for one would be equally disgusted. We should not wish ill will or hate on people . We can disagree. Heck get angry. But talking the way she did is not good for anyone.

 

[Disney Irish]

I know people are going to claim that they would be in full support of her, but if she made those same comments accept in the opposite direction about team blue, I would have loved to see how supportive this forum was of her.

We will never know, but I for one would be equally disgusted. We should not wish ill will or hate on people . We can disagree. Heck get angry. But talking the way she did is not good for anyone.

So you’ve never said anything in the heat of the moment that you later regretted? You’ve never had a slip of the tongue and said something the wrong way and taken out of context?

Are you so perfect that you never make mistakes?

It doesn’t matter what “side” it was, we’re all human. As the saying goes “To err is human, to forgive divine”.

 

[Chi84]

I know people are going to claim that they would be in full support of her, but if she made those same comments accept in the opposite direction about team blue, I would have loved to see how supportive this forum was of her.

We will never know, but I for one would be equally disgusted. We should not wish ill will or hate on people . We can disagree. Heck get angry. But talking the way she did is not good for anyone.

I think you're not getting the concept of people not caring about celebrities' social/political views. That goes both ways. I wish Gina Carano was still in The Mandalorian and still had the planned spin-off. I watch Signs because I think it's a great movie regardless of what Mel Gibson says. That's how it works.

 

[TP2000]

@TP2000 , I've been looking at the presold seats at the Irvine Spectrum for Snow White, 99.9% of available seats still available.

Wow! Five days out, that's rather shocking for that venue.

For those not from SoCal, the Irvine Spectrum is a giant outdoor shopping/entertainment/dining mall in Irvine. Right in the heart of stylish OC filled with not only very affluent upper-middle and lower-upper class consumers, but 10 miles south of Disneyland and the epicenter of Disney's most hardcore fan base of AP'ers and lifestylers. Think of a center like Disney Springs, but with a better looking (AKA expertly Botoxed) clientele.

If a big tentpole Disney movie, an icon of the company, can't sell (let alone sell-out) a bunch of reserved lounge seats at the Irvine Spectrum Regal Theater, where can it sell tickets?

 

[Dranth]

Now step back and think....

What if Annette Funicello, in the 1960 lead up to her starring role in the release of 1961's Walt Disney's Babes in Toyland, was quoted in the Los Angeles Times saying;

"May Kennedy supporters and Kennedy voters and John F. Kennedy himself never know peace."

Walt Disney was a notable supporter of Richard Nixon in the 1960 Presidential campaign, but even after Annette was forced to "apologize" for her purposeful remarks to the media, I can't imagine that Walt would have allowed Annette Funicello to work for his studio and company ever again. Can you?

I don't know, depends on how petty Walt was. We are talking about the guy who went in front of congress to accuse people of being communist with no proof so maybe.

ETA: Laugh all you want but I think you are missing the point. Setting my sarcasm aside for the moment, literally EVERYONE does things we can pick apart out of context to make them look bad.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I know people are going to claim that they would be in full support of her, but if she made those same comments accept in the opposite direction about team blue, I would have loved to see how supportive this forum was of her.

We will never know, but I for one would be equally disgusted. We should not wish ill will or hate on people . We can disagree. Heck get angry. But talking the way she did is not good for anyone.

What a reasonable statement this would be in 2012.

 

[LittleBuford]

To be fair I can see some people being upset with this quote by Rachel Zegler.

“May T… supporters and T… voters and T… himself never know peace.”

She later apologized.

I think it’s important to note that those political remarks (which were indeed inappropriate and certainly warranted an apology) postdated the anti-Zegler rage that some of us here found baffling and disconcerting. Certain people were already very, very angry with her long before she uttered anything political—and all because she made some flippant remarks about an old film.

 

[LittleBuford]

I know people are going to claim that they would be in full support of her, but if she made those same comments accept in the opposite direction about team blue, I would have loved to see how supportive this forum was of her.

We will never know, but I for one would be equally disgusted. We should not wish ill will or hate on people . We can disagree. Heck get angry. But talking the way she did is not good for anyone.

I’m not supportive of her, but indifferent. I really don’t care one way or the other about the vast majority of celebrities (with rare exceptions such as Dolly Parton).

 

[Chi84]

I think it’s important to note that those political remarks (which were indeed inappropriate and certainly warranted an apology) postdated the anti-Zegler rage that some of us here found baffling and disconcerting. Certain people were already very, very angry with her long before she uttered anything political—and all because she made some flippant remarks about an old film.

And the underlying reason why her flippant remarks were blown out of proportion and publicized to that degree.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I think it’s important to note that those political remarks (which were indeed inappropriate and certainly warranted an apology) postdated the anti-Zegler rage that some of us here found baffling and disconcerting. Certain people were already very, very angry with her long before she uttered anything political—and all because she made some flippant remarks about an old film.

Go back further. This started because of her race - very powerful people were viciously attacking her before she said anything about the film.

To reiterate, a cacophony of voices, led by some of the most powerful people in the nation, attacked Zegler relentlessly because of her race. They then dug up and distorted comments she had made in order to swell the mob. When she lashed out at the group that included the attackers, she was condemned and made to apologize.

This is a pattern. Cruel, vicious attacks, but if anyone criticizes the attackers even in relatively mild terms, they scream about their victimhood and how unfair everyone is. It’s familiar bully behavior.

 

[LittleBuford]

And the underlying reason why her flippant remarks were blown out of proportion and publicized to that degree.

Absolutely. A lot of fuss over nothing.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I’m not supportive of her, but indifferent. I really don’t care one way or the other about the vast majority of celebrities (with rare exceptions such as Dolly Parton).

I don’t particularly care about Zegler, but I do care about the toxic bullying, normalized hatred, bad faith victimhood, and gleeful cruelty that drive this story and defines the country at the moment.