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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I know people are going to claim that they would be in full support of her, but if she made those same comments accept in the opposite direction about team blue, I would have loved to see how supportive this forum was of her.

We will never know, but I for one would be equally disgusted. We should not wish ill will or hate on people . We can disagree. Heck get angry. But talking the way she did is not good for anyone.
So you’ve never said anything in the heat of the moment that you later regretted? You’ve never had a slip of the tongue and said something the wrong way and taken out of context?

Are you so perfect that you never make mistakes?

It doesn’t matter what “side” it was, we’re all human. As the saying goes “To err is human, to forgive divine”.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
I know people are going to claim that they would be in full support of her, but if she made those same comments accept in the opposite direction about team blue, I would have loved to see how supportive this forum was of her.

We will never know, but I for one would be equally disgusted. We should not wish ill will or hate on people . We can disagree. Heck get angry. But talking the way she did is not good for anyone.
I think you're not getting the concept of people not caring about celebrities' social/political views. That goes both ways. I wish Gina Carano was still in The Mandalorian and still had the planned spin-off. I watch Signs because I think it's a great movie regardless of what Mel Gibson says. That's how it works.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
@TP2000 , I've been looking at the presold seats at the Irvine Spectrum for Snow White, 99.9% of available seats still available.

Wow! Five days out, that's rather shocking for that venue.

For those not from SoCal, the Irvine Spectrum is a giant outdoor shopping/entertainment/dining mall in Irvine. Right in the heart of stylish OC filled with not only very affluent upper-middle and lower-upper class consumers, but 10 miles south of Disneyland and the epicenter of Disney's most hardcore fan base of AP'ers and lifestylers. Think of a center like Disney Springs, but with a better looking (AKA expertly Botoxed) clientele.

If a big tentpole Disney movie, an icon of the company, can't sell (let alone sell-out) a bunch of reserved lounge seats at the Irvine Spectrum Regal Theater, where can it sell tickets? :oops:

 

Dranth

Well-Known Member
Now step back and think....

What if Annette Funicello, in the 1960 lead up to her starring role in the release of 1961's Walt Disney's Babes in Toyland, was quoted in the Los Angeles Times saying;

"May Kennedy supporters and Kennedy voters and John F. Kennedy himself never know peace."

Walt Disney was a notable supporter of Richard Nixon in the 1960 Presidential campaign, but even after Annette was forced to "apologize" for her purposeful remarks to the media, I can't imagine that Walt would have allowed Annette Funicello to work for his studio and company ever again. Can you? 🤔
I don't know, depends on how petty Walt was. We are talking about the guy who went in front of congress to accuse people of being communist with no proof so maybe.

ETA: Laugh all you want but I think you are missing the point. Setting my sarcasm aside for the moment, literally EVERYONE does things we can pick apart out of context to make them look bad.
 
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Casper Gutman

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I know people are going to claim that they would be in full support of her, but if she made those same comments accept in the opposite direction about team blue, I would have loved to see how supportive this forum was of her.

We will never know, but I for one would be equally disgusted. We should not wish ill will or hate on people . We can disagree. Heck get angry. But talking the way she did is not good for anyone.
What a reasonable statement this would be in 2012.
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
To be fair I can see some people being upset with this quote by Rachel Zegler.

“May T… supporters and T… voters and T… himself never know peace.”

She later apologized.
I think it’s important to note that those political remarks (which were indeed inappropriate and certainly warranted an apology) postdated the anti-Zegler rage that some of us here found baffling and disconcerting. Certain people were already very, very angry with her long before she uttered anything political—and all because she made some flippant remarks about an old film.
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
I know people are going to claim that they would be in full support of her, but if she made those same comments accept in the opposite direction about team blue, I would have loved to see how supportive this forum was of her.

We will never know, but I for one would be equally disgusted. We should not wish ill will or hate on people . We can disagree. Heck get angry. But talking the way she did is not good for anyone.
I’m not supportive of her, but indifferent. I really don’t care one way or the other about the vast majority of celebrities (with rare exceptions such as Dolly Parton).
 

Chi84

Premium Member
I think it’s important to note that those political remarks (which were indeed inappropriate and certainly warranted an apology) postdated the anti-Zegler rage that some of us here found baffling and disconcerting. Certain people were already very, very angry with her long before she uttered anything political—and all because she made some flippant remarks about an old film.
And the underlying reason why her flippant remarks were blown out of proportion and publicized to that degree.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
I think it’s important to note that those political remarks (which were indeed inappropriate and certainly warranted an apology) postdated the anti-Zegler rage that some of us here found baffling and disconcerting. Certain people were already very, very angry with her long before she uttered anything political—and all because she made some flippant remarks about an old film.
Go back further. This started because of her race - very powerful people were viciously attacking her before she said anything about the film.

To reiterate, a cacophony of voices, led by some of the most powerful people in the nation, attacked Zegler relentlessly because of her race. They then dug up and distorted comments she had made in order to swell the mob. When she lashed out at the group that included the attackers, she was condemned and made to apologize.

This is a pattern. Cruel, vicious attacks, but if anyone criticizes the attackers even in relatively mild terms, they scream about their victimhood and how unfair everyone is. It’s familiar bully behavior.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
I’m not supportive of her, but indifferent. I really don’t care one way or the other about the vast majority of celebrities (with rare exceptions such as Dolly Parton).
I don’t particularly care about Zegler, but I do care about the toxic bullying, normalized hatred, bad faith victimhood, and gleeful cruelty that drive this story and defines the country at the moment.
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
What example are you referring to for context?

The obsession with Halle Bailey and Iman Vellani, when no one even mentions Owen Wilson, Harrison Ford or Jake Gyllenhal (nor really understands why I bring up their names unless they saw my prior posting on the subject) is the example.

Rachel actually made some political statements that were immature and therefore the vitriol is completely over the top. A deserved reaction mixed with the underlying undeserved reaction saved for young actresses. Bonus points if they aren’t Caucasian.

Because many (predominately) middle / older age men love piling on the young actresses, even when they don’t deserve it. @Dranth is pointing out the hypocrisy, rightfully.

I’ve barely stepped into it and didn’t engage in the last dedicated thread, because even if I think a couple comments were immature and inappropriate, she’s most certainly facing a overly sufficient amount of backlash. Nor do I honestly care that much about a Snow White remake. Bring on Thunderbolts*
 

Agent H

Well-Known Member
The obsession with Halle Bailey and Iman Vellani, when no one even mentions Owen Wilson, Harrison Ford or Jake Gyllenhal (nor really understands why I bring up their names unless they saw my prior posting on the subject) is the example.

Rachel actually made some political statements that were immature and therefore the vitriol is completely over the top. A deserved reaction mixed with the underlying undeserved reaction saved for young actresses.

Because many (predominately) middle / older age men love piling on the young actresses, even when they don’t deserve it. @Dranth is pointing out the hypocrisy, rightfully.
I can’t sympathize with people who hate iman vellani especially. She’s a national treasure and must be protected at all costs.
 
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Dranth

Well-Known Member
I don’t particularly care about Zegler, but I do care about the toxic bullying, normalized hatred, bad faith victimhood, and gleeful cruelty that drive this story and defines the country at the moment.
This, and before people get all upset, that doesn't mean everyone who is down on her or disagrees with her is like that, but there is a very vocal group who do this exact thing and far too many people sit by silently without pushing back.
 

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