Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Baloo124]

I don't know why everything has to be a competition when it comes to old vs new, remake vs classic. Two of my nieces (ages 5 and 3), have seen the original on Disney+ and enjoy it, and will probably be seeing the new one real soon (though whether or not they are old enough to sit still that long in a movie theater is a question, so probably wait for streaming on that one as well). But for most kids and audiences, who cares? Each version has its own charm.

We have a display cabinet in our family dining room for the little ones to look at and enjoy. It is all Disney, and on the top right corner sits a display for the original Snow White from the old days.

My nieces love looking at and talking about the characters. They don't care if it's "dated" or whatnot. They're going to have a ball seeing the new one. Maybe we just need to enjoy this stuff as kids do.

 

[Trauma]

Hide her? What are you talking about? She is literally at every event as the face of the movie. She isn’t being hidden, she is out there for all to see.

Yeah her face is out there. They just don’t want her to talk.

She can’t stop saying stupid things, so I guess what else could they do ?

 

[Disney Irish]

Yeah her face is out there. They just don’t want her to talk.

She can’t stop saying stupid things, so I guess what else could they do ?

She isn’t a prisoner, she isn’t locked up. She is out there in public talking to fans and non-fans alike. She still has all her social media profiles, and is promoting the film on it as well. So for someone who is supposedly being hidden she sure is out there a lot promoting the film.

You’re reading too much into them having a limited premiere.

 

[Chi84]

The point I was trying to make is that the main backlash to her casting as Snow White came before she voiced any unpopular opinions. That made her fair game for the ragers.

There are several pages of well-articulated posts discussing why Snow White is a spectacularly inappropriate subject for a live-action remake. Zegler's comments about the movie highlights some of them. I won't repeat all of that but the posts are there for you to read. The live-action remake is directed toward a different audience than the ones who are outraged by everything.

As an American, I hate that political views cause so much division; it doesn't have to be that way. So if that's what you're referring to as a reason to dislike the actor, it's sad but that's the way it is.

I don't think so, although there are a lot of people who seem annoyed by the live-action remakes. I like them because they can add to the story and flesh out the characters to make them more interesting.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

The point I was trying to make is that the main backlash to her casting as Snow White came before she voiced any unpopular opinions. That made her fair game for the ragers.

There are several pages of well-articulated posts discussing why Snow White is a spectacularly inappropriate subject for a live-action remake. Zegler's comments about the movie highlights some of them. I won't repeat all of that but the posts are there for you to read. The live-action remake is directed toward a different audience than the ones who are outraged by everything.

As an American, I hate that political views cause so much division; it doesn't have to be that way. So if that's what you're referring to as a reason to dislike the actor, it's sad but that's the way it is.

“Snow White is a spectacularly inappropriate subject for a live-action remake.”

Give me your number one reason… your opinion… as to why in your mind it’s “spectacularly inappropriate”

 

[Agent H]

So how about the box office for the loony tunes movie?

 

[Trauma]

So how about the box office for the loony tunes movie?View attachment 848529

It’s ok it will be profitable when it goes to streaming.

 

[Disney Irish]

So how about the box office for the loony tunes movie?View attachment 848529

I hope Ketchup didn’t spend a lot to get the rights to the film, because they sure didn’t spend a lot to promote and market it.

 

[Disney Irish]

It’s ok it will be profitable when it goes to streaming.

What streaming? WB sold the movie, it’s not going to streaming at least not to Max right away.

 

[Trauma]

What streaming? WB sold the movie, it’s not going to streaming at least not to Max right away.

It’s just a joke relax

 

[Chi84]

“Snow White is a spectacularly inappropriate subject for a live-action remake.”

Give me your number one reason… your opinion… as to why in your mind it’s “spectacularly inappropriate”

There is not enough story in it to support a full-length film. I can't say it better than this:

The protagonists of Snow White have no character arc or real agency. Snow herself harkens back to silent film damsels rather than reflecting, say, the willful female leads of the contemporary screwball comedies. Frankly, she acts like a child. The Prince is an utter nonentity. Compare the nonexistent character growth and development of SW and the Prince to that of Gepetto and Pinocchio just a few years later. The only characters who experience meaningful growth are the dwarfs, secondary characters.

The film has few if any, thematic throughlines. Action doesn’t rise and fall in the expected way - there’s a brief set-up, a long series of gags, and a perfunctory conclusion. It’s essentially structured as an extended short.

The film is still a masterpiece, of course, but more then any other Disney film it feels like an artifact from another time.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

It’s interesting how PT Barnums “there’s no such thing as bad publicity” is being proven simultaneously true and false right now, box office is arguably being hurt by controversy while the WNBA is arguably thriving on it.

I don’t watch basketball, men or women, but the Clark, Reese, others drama has been showing up on my feeds non stop for months now and has me intrigued… none of it has been very positive but it’s sure caught my attention and will likely get me to check out a couple games to see what all the fuss is about. Meanwhile nothing about any of the movie controversies has made me want to watch any of them.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

There is not enough story in it to support a full-length film. I can't say it better than this:

In your opinion what made the original magical and one of the top grossing movies of all time. How can they catch lighting in a bottle a second time.
Disney succeeded with the coaster in fantasyland.

 

[Farerb]

So how about the box office for the loony tunes movie?View attachment 848529

Very sad. It's a great movie.

 

[Minnesota disney fan]

Stitch will do well.

If I had to guess I would say Jurassic World and How to Train Your Dragon will also be fine.

Who knows what’s gonna happen.

I don't go to many movies in the theatre, but I would go to How to Train your Dragon and Jurassic World, possibly Superman too.

 

[Trauma]

It’s interesting how PT Barnums “there’s no such thing as bad publicity” is being proven simultaneously true and false right now, box office is arguably being hurt by controversy while the WNBA is arguably thriving on it.

I don’t watch basketball, men or women, but the Clark, Reese, others drama has been showing up on my feeds non stop for months now and has me intrigued… none of it has been very positive but it’s sure caught my attention and will likely get me to check out a couple games to see what all the fuss is about. Meanwhile nothing about any of the movie controversies has made me want to watch any of them.

Movies and sports are really different worlds.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I think some things are being blown out of proportion by one side and other things are being seriously downplayed by the other.

The backlash against her calling the original outdated is probably a good example of something being blown out of proportion, calling the Prince a stalker is a good example (imho) of appropriate backlash, ignoring the fact she wished “no peace” to half the county is a good example of something being downplayed, picking a side in a war was also sure to elicit a massive response, it’s not like she said one controversial thing that people ran with, she willingly jumped into the middle of some of the most controversial issues in the entire world that you can get involved in right now.

While I’m at peace with “no peace,” that’s a fair assessment.

It’s interesting how PT Barnums “there’s no such thing as bad publicity” is being proven simultaneously true and false right now, box office is arguably being hurt by controversy while the WNBA is arguably thriving on it.

I don’t watch basketball, men or women, but the Clark, Reese, others drama has been showing up on my feeds non stop for months now and has me intrigued… none of it has been very positive but it’s sure caught my attention and will likely get me to check out a couple games to see what all the fuss is about. Meanwhile nothing about any of the movie controversies has made me want to watch any of them.

I know nothing of any basketball, but the movie controversies have gotten me to watch TLM on D+, Cap 4 in the theater (though I could have waited for D+) and will absolutely see Snow White in theaters, which I normally wouldn’t notice.

Nope, I just have no respect for grown men who are bashing girls barely out of their teens for daring to have opinions that might not match their own.

This plays into my position a lot. As someone with a little sister, my default position is to stand up for young women being bullied.

 

[Chi84]

In your opinion what made the original magical and one of the top grossing movies of all time. How can they catch lighting in a bottle a second time.
Disney succeeded with the coaster in fantasyland.

The first one was magical because it was released in 1937, in much different times. To put that in perspective, it was released 18 years before I was born and I'm 70 this year. Since the movie was released, I was born, my children were born and my grandchildren were born.

It was a magical movie for its age, when men dressed in suits to go to the theater and there were no televisions in homes.

Now, as for the story and the characters -as opposed to the movie itself- they are delightful and people of all ages love them. That's why the rides in Disney do so well. I had not seen Snow White until recently, but I became familiar with the story through Disney books. That's the way the characters were introduced to my kids and grandkids. I suspect many people watch the original on Disney+ to see Disney's film version of the story.

But we are talking about getting people into theaters now, something that is much more difficult since the pandemic, the dramatic cost increases and the unlimited media competition. When I watched Snow White, I tried to imagine how each scene would appear if it were real people saying the lines and performing the actions. There's not enough material there for a frame for frame reproduction and people don't talk that way anymore.

I have nothing against the original Snow White. I'm sure many people still rent it after going on the rides or reading the books. As others have stated, it was a marvel of animation for its time.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

Nope, I just have no respect for grown men who are bashing girls barely out of their teens for daring to have opinions that might not match their own.

What example are you referring to for context?

 

[MagicMouseFan]

The first one was magical because it was released in 1937, in much different times. To put that in perspective, it was released 18 years before I was born and I'm 70 this year. Since the movie was released, I was born, my children were born and my grandchildren were born.

It was a magical movie for its age, when men dressed in suits to go to the theater and there were no televisions in homes.

Now, as for the story and the characters -as opposed to the movie itself- they are delightful and people of all ages love them. That's why the rides in Disney do so well. I had not seen Snow White until recently, but I became familiar with the story through Disney books. That's the way the characters were introduced to my kids and grandkids. I suspect many people watch the original on Disney+ to see Disney's film version of the story.

But we are talking about getting people into theaters now, something that is much more difficult since the pandemic, the dramatic cost increases and the unlimited media competition. When I watched Snow White, I tried to imagine how each scene would appear if it were real people saying the lines and performing the actions. There's not enough material there for a frame for frame reproduction and people don't talk that way anymore.

I have nothing against the original Snow White. I'm sure many people still rent it after going on the rides or reading the books. As others have stated, it was a marvel of animation for its time.

I agree with your views.
I would say Snow White is not a spectacularly inappropriate subject for a live-action remake based on your comments above. Just needs a little fleshing out. Of course easier said than done.