Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Chi84]

I don’t know if this is an act with you, or if you just have your head buried in the sand.

Disney's desperate plot to rescue Snow White - the £217m 'poisoned chalice'

Disney's final hail Mary to rescue Snow White - as stars Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot hit the promo trail on two different continents

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Is it a normal strategy to hide your beloved star as much as possible before the movie release ?

It’s not an act. Your opinion isn’t the same as everyone’s.

The political comments were unnecessary but her comments on the original Snow White move were spot-on. Any backlash is coming from people who probably wouldn’t have seen the movie anyway.

And that’s without mentioning the number 1 reason given in almost every article as the reason people don’t like her for playing Snow White.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Despite the premiere issues, Disney seems to have some confidence in the film itself the way they are promoting it, merch, brand tie-ins, etc. Their ad campaign is not backing down.

I’ve now learned the new song just from arguing with FB trolls on a post where it plays in the background on repeat. Mission accomplished, Disney!

 

[TalkingHead]

Not really going out on limb here but, looking at the abysmal weekend numbers, there are way too many tentpoles clustered up in May-July. Thunderbolts, Stitch, Elio, Fantastic Four, Mission Impossible, Jurassic World, Superman, F1, How to Train Your Dragon, etc.

How many casual moviegoers are going to shell out and go to see more than two of those? Could imagine a number of these doing ok numbers (e.g. $200M+ domestic) that still barely eke out a profit or fail to launch a franchise.

And if Superman doesn’t connect with casual movie watchers, WB is gonna look like it’s in total free fall.

 

[Trauma]

It’s not an act. Your opinion isn’t the same as everyone’s.

The political comments were unnecessary but her comments on the original Snow White move were spot-on. Any backlash is coming from people who probably wouldn’t have seen the movie anyway.

And that’s without mentioning the number 1 reason given in almost every article as the reason people don’t like her for playing Snow White.

Her opinions are so unpopular that Disney is trying to hide her.

Just because some fringe element agrees with her views, doesn’t make them appropriate for someone who is supposed to be marketing a product to a mass audience.

 

[Trauma]

Not really going out on limb here but, looking at the abysmal weekend numbers, there are way too many tentpoles clustered up in May-July. Thunderbolts, Stitch, Elio, Fantastic Four, Mission Impossible, Jurassic World, Superman, F1, How to Train Your Dragon, etc.

How many casual moviegoers are going to shell out and go to see more than two of those? Could imagine a number of these doing ok numbers (e.g. $200M+ domestic) that still barely eke out a profit or fail to launch a franchise.

And if Superman doesn’t connect with casual movie watchers, WB is gonna look like it’s in total free fall.

Stitch will do well.

If I had to guess I would say Jurassic World and How to Train Your Dragon will also be fine.

Who knows what’s gonna happen.

 

[Chi84]

Her opinions are so unpopular that Disney is trying to hide her.

Just because some fringe element agrees with her views, doesn’t make them appropriate for someone who is supposed to be marketing a product to a mass audience.

The point I was trying to make is that the main backlash to her casting as Snow White came before she voiced any unpopular opinions. That made her fair game for the ragers.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Okay, see?? They're friends!

Interesting how the reactions are fairly evenly split, every SW post has become half political battleground, half movie.

 

[Trauma]

The point I was trying to make is that the main backlash to her casting as Snow White came before she voiced any unpopular opinions. That made her fair game for the ragers.

There are several pages of well-articulated posts discussing why Snow White is a spectacularly inappropriate subject for a live-action remake. Zegler's comments about the movie highlights some of them. I won't repeat all of that but the posts are there for you to read. The live-action remake is directed toward a different audience than the ones who are outraged by everything.

As an American, I hate that political views cause so much division; it doesn't have to be that way. So if that's what you're referring to as a reason to dislike the actor, it's sad but that's the way it is.

Maybe Disney should figure out that this “different audience” they are targeting with their films isn’t paying the bills.

If they want to continue with their “modern audience” nonsense maybe they should slash the budgets?

 

[Disney Irish]

Her opinions are so unpopular that Disney is trying to hide her.

Just because some fringe element agrees with her views, doesn’t make them appropriate for someone who is supposed to be marketing a product to a mass audience.

Hide her? What are you talking about? She is literally at every event as the face of the movie. She isn’t being hidden, she is out there for all to see.

 

[Baloo124]

I don't know why everything has to be a competition when it comes to old vs new, remake vs classic. Two of my nieces (ages 5 and 3), have seen the original on Disney+ and enjoy it, and will probably be seeing the new one real soon (though whether or not they are old enough to sit still that long in a movie theater is a question, so probably wait for streaming on that one as well). But for most kids and audiences, who cares? Each version has its own charm.

We have a display cabinet in our family dining room for the little ones to look at and enjoy. It is all Disney, and on the top right corner sits a display for the original Snow White from the old days.

My nieces love looking at and talking about the characters. They don't care if it's "dated" or whatnot. They're going to have a ball seeing the new one. Maybe we just need to enjoy this stuff as kids do.

 

[Trauma]

Hide her? What are you talking about? She is literally at every event as the face of the movie. She isn’t being hidden, she is out there for all to see.

Yeah her face is out there. They just don’t want her to talk.

She can’t stop saying stupid things, so I guess what else could they do ?

 

[Disney Irish]

Yeah her face is out there. They just don’t want her to talk.

She can’t stop saying stupid things, so I guess what else could they do ?

She isn’t a prisoner, she isn’t locked up. She is out there in public talking to fans and non-fans alike. She still has all her social media profiles, and is promoting the film on it as well. So for someone who is supposedly being hidden she sure is out there a lot promoting the film.

You’re reading too much into them having a limited premiere.

 

[Chi84]

The point I was trying to make is that the main backlash to her casting as Snow White came before she voiced any unpopular opinions. That made her fair game for the ragers.

There are several pages of well-articulated posts discussing why Snow White is a spectacularly inappropriate subject for a live-action remake. Zegler's comments about the movie highlights some of them. I won't repeat all of that but the posts are there for you to read. The live-action remake is directed toward a different audience than the ones who are outraged by everything.

As an American, I hate that political views cause so much division; it doesn't have to be that way. So if that's what you're referring to as a reason to dislike the actor, it's sad but that's the way it is.

I don't think so, although there are a lot of people who seem annoyed by the live-action remakes. I like them because they can add to the story and flesh out the characters to make them more interesting.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

The point I was trying to make is that the main backlash to her casting as Snow White came before she voiced any unpopular opinions. That made her fair game for the ragers.

There are several pages of well-articulated posts discussing why Snow White is a spectacularly inappropriate subject for a live-action remake. Zegler's comments about the movie highlights some of them. I won't repeat all of that but the posts are there for you to read. The live-action remake is directed toward a different audience than the ones who are outraged by everything.

As an American, I hate that political views cause so much division; it doesn't have to be that way. So if that's what you're referring to as a reason to dislike the actor, it's sad but that's the way it is.

“Snow White is a spectacularly inappropriate subject for a live-action remake.”

Give me your number one reason… your opinion… as to why in your mind it’s “spectacularly inappropriate”

 

[Agent H]

So how about the box office for the loony tunes movie?

 

[Trauma]

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It’s ok it will be profitable when it goes to streaming.

 

[Disney Irish]

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I hope Ketchup didn’t spend a lot to get the rights to the film, because they sure didn’t spend a lot to promote and market it.

 

[Disney Irish]

It’s ok it will be profitable when it goes to streaming.

What streaming? WB sold the movie, it’s not going to streaming at least not to Max right away.

 

[Trauma]

What streaming? WB sold the movie, it’s not going to streaming at least not to Max right away.

It’s just a joke relax

 

[Chi84]

“Snow White is a spectacularly inappropriate subject for a live-action remake.”

Give me your number one reason… your opinion… as to why in your mind it’s “spectacularly inappropriate”

There is not enough story in it to support a full-length film. I can't say it better than this:

The protagonists of Snow White have no character arc or real agency. Snow herself harkens back to silent film damsels rather than reflecting, say, the willful female leads of the contemporary screwball comedies. Frankly, she acts like a child. The Prince is an utter nonentity. Compare the nonexistent character growth and development of SW and the Prince to that of Gepetto and Pinocchio just a few years later. The only characters who experience meaningful growth are the dwarfs, secondary characters.

The film has few if any, thematic throughlines. Action doesn’t rise and fall in the expected way - there’s a brief set-up, a long series of gags, and a perfunctory conclusion. It’s essentially structured as an extended short.

The film is still a masterpiece, of course, but more then any other Disney film it feels like an artifact from another time.