Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

MoonRakerSCM

Well-Known Member

That article/tour pitch is very weird and sounds like it was written with AI... there's also some interesting buzz on Tripadvisor of that website having claimed awards it never received. Anyways, within the 'article' are the following-

"Today at Tour Travel & More, we’re excited to share news that has thrilled Disney fans all over the world: the iconic Alcazar of Segovia in Spain has been identified as the inspiration behind the famous castle in ‘Snow White’!"

Identified by who?

"The Alcazar of Segovia, with its impressive architecture and majestic location, has been identified as the source of inspiration for Snow White’s castle. This beautiful castle perched atop a hill in the historic city of Segovia has left all Disney fans in awe of its uncanny similarity to the castle we all know and love from the Snow White movie."

Again, identified by who... and why are Disney fans in awe of its 'uncanny similarity'?

"The magic of Disney lies in its ability to take inspiration from real places and cultures and turn it into stories that resonate in the hearts of people of all ages. Discovering that the Alcazar of Segovia was the source of inspiration for Snow White’s castle shows us how reality and imagination can merge to create something truly unique and moving."

Who discovered this?

"It is not surprising that the Alcazar of Segovia was the inspiration for this iconic castle."

Says who?

"This castle, which has recently been crowned as the inspiration behind Snow White’s castle, is a must-see."

Crowned? By who?

"The revelation that Segovia’s Alcazar served as the inspiration for Snow White’s castle in the Disney films is a thrilling reminder of how the magic of real life can inspire the magic of the imagination. This discovery has added a new chapter to the rich history of fairy tales and has made the Alcázar of Segovia an even more special destination for travellers and Disney lovers."

Revelation? Discovery? By who? This article/tour pitch was posted on October 13th, 2024... did we Disney fans miss the announcement? Did Disney post something? Is there ANYTHING from Disney post 2000 that anyone can recall/find about this?

Doing a quick dig into articles from 2000 to 2024... I found these-

This article from March 2020 mentions this location... and seems to be nothing more than an AI image similarity... the article also mentions a relationship of Atlantis at the Palm to Little Mermaid... even though Atlantis didn't open until 19 years after Little Mermaid came out.....

This article from 2023 claims that "Disney has now substantiated this claim, acknowledging the Alcazar’s influence in the creation of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’ iconic castle, which premiered in 1937." and that "A survey conducted by The Walt Disney Company reveals that only 14 per cent of Spaniards were aware of the Alcazar of Segovia’s role in inspiring Snow White’s castle, although in Segovia, this figure is probably much higher."

So... do we have anything from Disney? Anything real? Anyone have a deep dive into Snow White pre AI online article? I'll take anything!
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
That article/tour pitch is very weird and sounds like it was written with AI... there's also some interesting buzz on Tripadvisor of that website having claimed awards it never received. Anyways, within the 'article' are the following-

"Today at Tour Travel & More, we’re excited to share news that has thrilled Disney fans all over the world: the iconic Alcazar of Segovia in Spain has been identified as the inspiration behind the famous castle in ‘Snow White’!"

Identified by who?

"The Alcazar of Segovia, with its impressive architecture and majestic location, has been identified as the source of inspiration for Snow White’s castle. This beautiful castle perched atop a hill in the historic city of Segovia has left all Disney fans in awe of its uncanny similarity to the castle we all know and love from the Snow White movie."

Again, identified by who... and why are Disney fans in awe of its 'uncanny similarity'?

"The magic of Disney lies in its ability to take inspiration from real places and cultures and turn it into stories that resonate in the hearts of people of all ages. Discovering that the Alcazar of Segovia was the source of inspiration for Snow White’s castle shows us how reality and imagination can merge to create something truly unique and moving."

Who discovered this?

"It is not surprising that the Alcazar of Segovia was the inspiration for this iconic castle."

Says who?

"This castle, which has recently been crowned as the inspiration behind Snow White’s castle, is a must-see."

Crowned? By who?

"The revelation that Segovia’s Alcazar served as the inspiration for Snow White’s castle in the Disney films is a thrilling reminder of how the magic of real life can inspire the magic of the imagination. This discovery has added a new chapter to the rich history of fairy tales and has made the Alcázar of Segovia an even more special destination for travellers and Disney lovers."

Revelation? Discovery? By who? This article/tour pitch was posted on October 13th, 2024... did we Disney fans miss the announcement? Did Disney post something? Is there ANYTHING from Disney post 2000 that anyone can recall/find about this?

Doing a quick dig into articles from 2000 to 2024... I found these-

This article from March 2020 mentions this location... and seems to be nothing more than an AI image similarity... the article also mentions a relationship of Atlantis at the Palm to Little Mermaid... even though Atlantis didn't open until 19 years after Little Mermaid came out.....

This article from 2023 claims that "Disney has now substantiated this claim, acknowledging the Alcazar’s influence in the creation of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’ iconic castle, which premiered in 1937." and that "A survey conducted by The Walt Disney Company reveals that only 14 per cent of Spaniards were aware of the Alcazar of Segovia’s role in inspiring Snow White’s castle, although in Segovia, this figure is probably much higher."

So... do we have anything from Disney? Anything real? Anyone have a deep dive into Snow White pre AI online article? I'll take anything!
I was trying to give you something that wasn't from this year, wasn't from Disney, and wasn't tied to the movie just to show its known prior to this and not some made up thing.

Disney puts it in their own press release for that event -

"The Alcázar of Segovia, a medieval castle located in the city of Segovia, in Castile and León, Spain, was the inspiration for the castle that appears in the 1937 animated film “Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.”"

 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
She’s doing very well so it seems people like her just fine. Didn’t she win a People’s Choice award?
I don’t know if this is an act with you, or if you just have your head buried in the sand.


Is it a normal strategy to hide your beloved star as much as possible before the movie release ?
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
How about someone who isn’t completely unlikable?

That might have helped.
I think she was pretty likable when they cast her, or at worst people were indifferent because they didn’t know who she was, I can’t recall any controversial statements or red flags when she did Westside Story so I don’t think Disney could have possibly foreseen how disliked she’d end up to a lot of people.

I’m sure if they had a Time Machine, and knew then what they know now, they’d go back and cast someone else but how could they have known 5 years ago that casting choice would jeopardize the whole movie?

It’s a cool castle…but they must have gotten lost because it’s supposed to be in Deutschland 🇩🇪

The DL castle is based after the one in Germany, the Snow White movie castle is based of the one in Spain.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
The DL castle is based after the one in Germany, the Snow White movie castle is based of the one in Spain.
The original Brothers Grimm story its based off of is set in Germany, I think that is what he was trying to say. But yeah Walt and team got inspiration from everywhere not just based on where the story originated.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Okay, see?? They're friends!


People honestly have blown up whatever it was between them beyond actual reality. I’m sure they aren’t bffs but it’s clear they don’t have any issue being around each other and can smile and looks like they even joke around each other.

With that said even the best of friends fight and dislike each other for a time and then makeup and are fine. So I doubt the “drama” between them is really the “Cold War” as some claimed.
 

MagicMouseFan

Well-Known Member
It's pedantic, but didn't the above just conclude clearing 500-550? Why is it better than Cinderella and Ariel?
“Cinderella (2015) sold approximately 64.5 million tickets worldwide, which at today’s average ticket price (~$11–12) would equate to roughly $740 million in global box office revenue.

The Little Mermaid (2023) sold around 54.2 million tickets worldwide, approximately 10 million fewer tickets than Cinderella, resulting in its global revenue of $569.6 million.”

If the audience falls in love with the lead actress, if they can connect with her performance and find her relatable, and if the film has memorable music and is just generally fun and compelling with a good story, then I see no reason why it can’t pull in $600 million. Agree if any of the key elements are lacking especially if the audience doesn’t connect with the lead actress the film could greatly underperform.
 

DKampy

Well-Known Member
I’m not sure how much more people can expect from a 23-year-old actor.
I am noticing a trend… most of the projects Zegler is involved in includes music in some capacity…. Which is great cause she has a fantastic voice
 

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