Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Chi84

Premium Member
Her opinions are so unpopular that Disney is trying to hide her.

Just because some fringe element agrees with her views, doesn’t make them appropriate for someone who is supposed to be marketing a product to a mass audience.
The point I was trying to make is that the main backlash to her casting as Snow White came before she voiced any unpopular opinions. That made her fair game for the ragers.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
Okay, see?? They're friends!


Interesting how the reactions are fairly evenly split, every SW post has become half political battleground, half movie.

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Trauma

Well-Known Member
The point I was trying to make is that the main backlash to her casting as Snow White came before she voiced any unpopular opinions. That made her fair game for the ragers.

There are several pages of well-articulated posts discussing why Snow White is a spectacularly inappropriate subject for a live-action remake. Zegler's comments about the movie highlights some of them. I won't repeat all of that but the posts are there for you to read. The live-action remake is directed toward a different audience than the ones who are outraged by everything.

As an American, I hate that political views cause so much division; it doesn't have to be that way. So if that's what you're referring to as a reason to dislike the actor, it's sad but that's the way it is.
Maybe Disney should figure out that this “different audience” they are targeting with their films isn’t paying the bills.

If they want to continue with their “modern audience” nonsense maybe they should slash the budgets?
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Her opinions are so unpopular that Disney is trying to hide her.

Just because some fringe element agrees with her views, doesn’t make them appropriate for someone who is supposed to be marketing a product to a mass audience.
Hide her? What are you talking about? She is literally at every event as the face of the movie. She isn’t being hidden, she is out there for all to see.
 

Baloo124

Premium Member
I don't know why everything has to be a competition when it comes to old vs new, remake vs classic. Two of my nieces (ages 5 and 3), have seen the original on Disney+ and enjoy it, and will probably be seeing the new one real soon (though whether or not they are old enough to sit still that long in a movie theater is a question, so probably wait for streaming on that one as well). But for most kids and audiences, who cares? Each version has its own charm.

We have a display cabinet in our family dining room for the little ones to look at and enjoy. It is all Disney, and on the top right corner sits a display for the original Snow White from the old days.
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My nieces love looking at and talking about the characters. They don't care if it's "dated" or whatnot. They're going to have a ball seeing the new one. Maybe we just need to enjoy this stuff as kids do.
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
Hide her? What are you talking about? She is literally at every event as the face of the movie. She isn’t being hidden, she is out there for all to see.
Yeah her face is out there. They just don’t want her to talk.

She can’t stop saying stupid things, so I guess what else could they do ?
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Yeah her face is out there. They just don’t want her to talk.

She can’t stop saying stupid things, so I guess what else could they do ?
She isn’t a prisoner, she isn’t locked up. She is out there in public talking to fans and non-fans alike. She still has all her social media profiles, and is promoting the film on it as well. So for someone who is supposedly being hidden she sure is out there a lot promoting the film.

You’re reading too much into them having a limited premiere.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
The point I was trying to make is that the main backlash to her casting as Snow White came before she voiced any unpopular opinions. That made her fair game for the ragers.

There are several pages of well-articulated posts discussing why Snow White is a spectacularly inappropriate subject for a live-action remake. Zegler's comments about the movie highlights some of them. I won't repeat all of that but the posts are there for you to read. The live-action remake is directed toward a different audience than the ones who are outraged by everything.

As an American, I hate that political views cause so much division; it doesn't have to be that way. So if that's what you're referring to as a reason to dislike the actor, it's sad but that's the way it is.
I don't think so, although there are a lot of people who seem annoyed by the live-action remakes. I like them because they can add to the story and flesh out the characters to make them more interesting.
 

MagicMouseFan

Well-Known Member
The point I was trying to make is that the main backlash to her casting as Snow White came before she voiced any unpopular opinions. That made her fair game for the ragers.

There are several pages of well-articulated posts discussing why Snow White is a spectacularly inappropriate subject for a live-action remake. Zegler's comments about the movie highlights some of them. I won't repeat all of that but the posts are there for you to read. The live-action remake is directed toward a different audience than the ones who are outraged by everything.

As an American, I hate that political views cause so much division; it doesn't have to be that way. So if that's what you're referring to as a reason to dislike the actor, it's sad but that's the way it is.
“Snow White is a spectacularly inappropriate subject for a live-action remake.”

Give me your number one reason… your opinion… as to why in your mind it’s “spectacularly inappropriate”
 

Chi84

Premium Member
“Snow White is a spectacularly inappropriate subject for a live-action remake.”

Give me your number one reason… your opinion… as to why in your mind it’s “spectacularly inappropriate”
There is not enough story in it to support a full-length film. I can't say it better than this:
The protagonists of Snow White have no character arc or real agency. Snow herself harkens back to silent film damsels rather than reflecting, say, the willful female leads of the contemporary screwball comedies. Frankly, she acts like a child. The Prince is an utter nonentity. Compare the nonexistent character growth and development of SW and the Prince to that of Gepetto and Pinocchio just a few years later. The only characters who experience meaningful growth are the dwarfs, secondary characters.

The film has few if any, thematic throughlines. Action doesn’t rise and fall in the expected way - there’s a brief set-up, a long series of gags, and a perfunctory conclusion. It’s essentially structured as an extended short.

The film is still a masterpiece, of course, but more then any other Disney film it feels like an artifact from another time.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
It’s interesting how PT Barnums “there’s no such thing as bad publicity” is being proven simultaneously true and false right now, box office is arguably being hurt by controversy while the WNBA is arguably thriving on it.

I don’t watch basketball, men or women, but the Clark, Reese, others drama has been showing up on my feeds non stop for months now and has me intrigued… none of it has been very positive but it’s sure caught my attention and will likely get me to check out a couple games to see what all the fuss is about. Meanwhile nothing about any of the movie controversies has made me want to watch any of them.
 

MagicMouseFan

Well-Known Member
There is not enough story in it to support a full-length film. I can't say it better than this:
In your opinion what made the original magical and one of the top grossing movies of all time. How can they catch lighting in a bottle a second time.
Disney succeeded with the coaster in fantasyland.
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
It’s interesting how PT Barnums “there’s no such thing as bad publicity” is being proven simultaneously true and false right now, box office is arguably being hurt by controversy while the WNBA is arguably thriving on it.

I don’t watch basketball, men or women, but the Clark, Reese, others drama has been showing up on my feeds non stop for months now and has me intrigued… none of it has been very positive but it’s sure caught my attention and will likely get me to check out a couple games to see what all the fuss is about. Meanwhile nothing about any of the movie controversies has made me want to watch any of them.
Movies and sports are really different worlds.
 

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