Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Vegas Disney Fan

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I mean, by that standard, Ariel too is a stalker, spying on Eric and developing a fixation on him without his knowledge. Only recently have Disney films moved away from a fairytale notion of romance in which the protagonists—often teenagers—basically fall in love at first sight. In that regard, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is consistent with a much longer tradition that continued into the ’90s.
I think it’s this more than anything, the comments come off as a slight on our generation, we grew up on Disney, grew up on love at first sight, grew up on true love being the ultimate power… and then a kid calls it weird and says the Prince is a stalker because he falls in love with her at first sight, it just rubs the wrong way.

Not that different from kids calling people boomers because they think their beliefs are “outdated”. Insulting people, even if unintentional, is not a great way to get them to buy your product.
 
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LittleBuford

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I think it’s this more than anything, the comments come off as a slight on our generation, we grew up on Disney, grew up on love at first sight, grew up on true love being the ultimate power… and then a kid calls it weird and says the Prince is a stalker because he falls in love with her at first sight, it just rubs the wrong way.

Not that different from kids calling people boomers because they think their beliefs are “outdated”.
I’m your generation (or just a few years behind), and I didn’t take it as a slight at all. As I asked in a subsequent post, do the grown adults (mostly men, it seems) who are apparently so affronted by her words respond this strongly when the young people in their lives express similar sentiments about things they view as old-fashioned? I would hope and expect not. I find the whole thing extremely strange and frankly unsettling. The supposed adults in the room should have more self-control.
 

Animaniac93-98

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Tonight is the Oscars, so out of curiosity, here's the 10 nominees ranked by domestic gross:

Wicked: $473 million
Dune: Part 2: $282 million
A Complete Unknown: $73.7 million
Conclave: $32.4 million
The Substance: $17.4 million
The Brutalist: $15.7 million
Anora: $15.6 million
I'm Still Here: $5.2 million
Nickel Boys: $2.7 million
Emilia Perez: No domestic numbers (Netflix USA distribution)
 

Disney Analyst

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It is extremely unsettling.

Halle Bailey said nothing wrong but was still subjected to a good deal of abuse on this forum.

And heartbreaking, as she is brilliant in the film. A perfect Ariel.

And you know all that noise online from her casting, many of them were likely never going to watch it, and the ones who did probably ate crow, silently, and never course corrected.
 

brideck

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Speaking of the Oscars, we completed the death race a week ago, so I'd already heard all of the nominees for Best Original Song within their respective movies, but I just sat down to listen to them in isolation and woof. It's such a weak field this year. I have no idea why the big songs from Moana 2 or Mufasa didn't make it as nominees. They were both on the shortlist, but didn't make it to the final five.
 

DKampy

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I’m your generation (or just a few years behind), and I didn’t take it as a slight at all. As I asked in a subsequent post, do the grown adults (mostly men, it seems) who are apparently so affronted by her words respond this strongly when the young people in their lives express similar sentiments about things they view as old-fashioned? I would hope and expect not. I find the whole thing extremely strange and frankly unsettling. The supposed adults in the room should have more self-control.
That was my comment…. And it was not meant to be a slight…. As I am a middle age man who grew up on Disney… we sometimes need to see other perspectives then just view it through our lens
 

TP2000

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Happy Oscars Day, gang! 🤩 Is anyone going to watch the show tonight? Hopefully it will get a few more viewers than Captain America: Brave New World got in its 3rd weekend in theaters.

Another sizable drop for that Marvel tentpole this weekend...

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TP2000

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Tonight is the Oscars, so out of curiosity, here's the 10 nominees ranked by domestic gross:

Wicked: $473 million
Dune: Part 2: $282 million
A Complete Unknown: $73.7 million
Conclave: $32.4 million
The Substance: $17.4 million
The Brutalist: $15.7 million
Anora: $15.6 million
I'm Still Here: $5.2 million
Nickel Boys: $2.7 million
Emilia Perez: No domestic numbers (Netflix USA distribution)

Wow. This can't bode well for Oscars viewership numbers. 🧐

That said, I do think it was very smart of them to choose Conan O'Brian to be the host; he's not known as being political at all, and it should help tone down that unfortunate element quite a bit. The Oscars needs all the help it can get to remain relevant, and this should help it regain trust and viewers.

Up until yesterday, I was planning to watch tonight (which would have been very good for their Nielsen number!). But then I got an invite to a Japanese steakhouse I like for this evening, and I'll be doing that instead. A gaggle of old confirmed bachelors in the desert going out to dinner instead of watching the Oscars?!? The days of us Gays throwing the Gay Super Bowl parties for the Oscars are long over I'm afraid.

But that Best Picture lineup? Oof. I imagine Wicked will be a top contender. I actually know a couple people who have seen it! That's a change.

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Disney Irish

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While it hasn't set the world on fire, Cap: Brave New World has quietly managed to slowly start inching it way to a decent WW box office -

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Currently sitting at ~$342M WW its almost a certainty that it will hit over $400M on its way to $425Mish if not a bit more by the end of its run, putting it into profitability range during theatrical and certainly when it leaves and does its post-theatrical run. Which shows that again don't count a movie out until the end of its theatrical run, it may just end up legging it out even if its slow.
 

TP2000

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While it hasn't set the world on fire, Cap: Brave New World has quietly managed to slowly start inching it way to a decent WW box office -

Compared to the previous five Marvel tentpole movies, this isn't "decent". It's disappointing.

I mean, at least Captain America 4 beat The Marvels, but that's an extremely low bar to use a disastrous mega-flop that lost a few hundred million for the studio like The Marvels. It appears Captain America 4 will come in less than Ant-Man and the Wasp; which is another low bar for Marvel.

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Currently sitting at ~$342M WW its almost a certainty that it will hit over $400M on its way to $425Mish if not a bit more by the end of its run, putting it into profitability range during theatrical and certainly when it leaves and does its post-theatrical run.

If it makes $400 Million (likely), it will lose $50 Million at a broad 2.5X formula. Or, assuming they spent $90 Million on marketing and using a more precise 60/40 domestic/overseas box office formula, it will lose around $70 Million.

If it makes it to $425 Million (Iess likely), it will lose $25 Million at a broad 2.5X formula, or using a more precise 60/40 domestic/overseas box office formula, it will lose around $45 Million.

Captain America 4 is not a box office success, nor is it even profitable, even with its modest (for Marvel) budget of $180 Million.

Which shows that again don't count a movie out until the end of its theatrical run, it may just end up legging it out even if its slow.

This is not what good legs look like. In fact, this is the opposite of "legging it out".

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