Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Disney Irish]

I mean, by that standard, Ariel too is a stalker, spying on Eric and developing a fixation on him without his knowledge. Only recently have Disney films moved away from a fairytale notion of romance in which the protagonists—often teenagers—basically fall in love at first sight. In that regard, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is consistent with a much longer tradition that continued into the ’90s.

No doubt, which is why again it makes sense why a 20ish year old actress in a post-MeToo/post-Weinstein Hollywood would have this take and would want to clarify that this version is modernized giving Snow more agency. Which again is not even a hot take given how modern critics look back at similar products of the time, especially Disney fairytales, and say they don't age well especially the damsel in distress who needs to be saved by a Prince trope.

 

[LittleBuford]

No doubt, which is why again it makes sense why a 20ish year old actress in a post-MeToo/post-Weinstein Hollywood would have this take and would want to clarify that this version is modernized giving Snow more agency. Which again is not even a hot take given how modern critics look back at similar products of the time, especially Disney fairytales, and say they don't age well especially the damsel in distress who needs to be saved by a Prince trope.

I’ve said something along these lines before, but Zegler’s comments are perfectly consistent with what many young women her age would say. I wonder whether some of the posters here who’ve torn her apart would feel quite so strongly if they heard similar words about the film from a cousin, niece, or daughter. I somehow doubt it.

 

[Disney Irish]

Still, it’s just an opinion, and nothing worth making a fuss over.

I agree, yet here we are and some are still losing their minds over it.

 

[Agent H]

This is a good point. At we point do we really consider something stalking? (Obviously there are something’s that are obviously stalking and wrong I’m merely curious as to where people think something starts to become stalking)

I feel I should clarify I mean purely in the context of film not in real life it sounds weird that way

 

[DKampy]

I’ve said something along these lines before, but Zegler’s comments are perfectly consistent with what many young women her age would say. I wonder whether some of the posters here who’ve torn her apart would feel quite so strongly if they heard similar words about the film from a cousin, niece, or daughter. I somehow doubt it.

It does feel odd…. That most of the people offended by her words are middle age men

 

[Tony the Tigger]

This is a good point. At we point do we really consider something stalking? (Obviously there are something’s that are obviously stalking and wrong I’m merely curious as to where people think something starts to become stalking)

Fairytales have their own logic and are best enjoyed on their own terms. Stalking seems an ill-fitting way to describe the dynamic under discussion here. Still, it’s just an opinion, and nothing worth making a fuss over.

It was a lighthearted, offhand, exaggerated comment. That’s all.

Certain other actresses wouldn’t have raised an eyebrow with that comment. See: Chris Evans vs. Anthony Mackie making the same comment.

 

[Chi84]

Some people were upset about Zegler’s casting before she said a word. Same with Mackie.

My best advice is to just ignore these people until their time expires, which it will.

 

[Farerb]

Gal Gadot will do the Hebrew dub of The Evil Queen.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Gal Gadot will do the Hebrew dub of The Evil Queen.

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[Prince-1]

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Gal Gadot is Israeli so it was either a bad joke or just an observation based on her nationality.

 

[Farerb]

It wasn't a joke or anything. Disney films are dubbed in different languages and Gal is going to dub The Evil Queen in Hebrew, meaning she's going to record her lines in Hebrew for the Hebrew dub.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

It wasn't a joke or anything. Disney films are dubbed in different languages and Gal is going to dub The Evil Queen in Hebrew, meaning she's going to record her lines in Hebrew for the Hebrew dub.

That would’ve been the better post to make, and then people would not have misunderstood you.

 

[LittleBuford]

That would’ve been the better post to make, and then people would not have misunderstood you.

I understood the original post and am honestly confused by your criticism of it.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I mean, by that standard, Ariel too is a stalker, spying on Eric and developing a fixation on him without his knowledge. Only recently have Disney films moved away from a fairytale notion of romance in which the protagonists—often teenagers—basically fall in love at first sight. In that regard, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is consistent with a much longer tradition that continued into the ’90s.

I think it’s this more than anything, the comments come off as a slight on our generation, we grew up on Disney, grew up on love at first sight, grew up on true love being the ultimate power… and then a kid calls it weird and says the Prince is a stalker because he falls in love with her at first sight, it just rubs the wrong way.

Not that different from kids calling people boomers because they think their beliefs are “outdated”. Insulting people, even if unintentional, is not a great way to get them to buy your product.

 

[LittleBuford]

I think it’s this more than anything, the comments come off as a slight on our generation, we grew up on Disney, grew up on love at first sight, grew up on true love being the ultimate power… and then a kid calls it weird and says the Prince is a stalker because he falls in love with her at first sight, it just rubs the wrong way.

Not that different from kids calling people boomers because they think their beliefs are “outdated”.

I’m your generation (or just a few years behind), and I didn’t take it as a slight at all. As I asked in a subsequent post, do the grown adults (mostly men, it seems) who are apparently so affronted by her words respond this strongly when the young people in their lives express similar sentiments about things they view as old-fashioned? I would hope and expect not. I find the whole thing extremely strange and frankly unsettling. The supposed adults in the room should have more self-control.

 

[Chi84]

It is extremely unsettling.

Halle Bailey said nothing wrong but was still subjected to a good deal of abuse on this forum.

 

[Farerb]

I understood the original post and am honestly confused by your criticism of it.

I guess they thought I was making fun of her accent, which wasn't my intention at all.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Tonight is the Oscars, so out of curiosity, here's the 10 nominees ranked by domestic gross:

Wicked: $473 million
Dune: Part 2: $282 million
A Complete Unknown: $73.7 million
Conclave: $32.4 million
The Substance: $17.4 million
The Brutalist: $15.7 million
Anora: $15.6 million
I'm Still Here: $5.2 million
Nickel Boys: $2.7 million
Emilia Perez: No domestic numbers (Netflix USA distribution)

 

[Disney Analyst]

It is extremely unsettling.

Halle Bailey said nothing wrong but was still subjected to a good deal of abuse on this forum.

And heartbreaking, as she is brilliant in the film. A perfect Ariel.

And you know all that noise online from her casting, many of them were likely never going to watch it, and the ones who did probably ate crow, silently, and never course corrected.

 

[brideck]

Speaking of the Oscars, we completed the death race a week ago, so I'd already heard all of the nominees for Best Original Song within their respective movies, but I just sat down to listen to them in isolation and woof. It's such a weak field this year. I have no idea why the big songs from Moana 2 or Mufasa didn't make it as nominees. They were both on the shortlist, but didn't make it to the final five.