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Chi84

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Here ya go!

Well, there never is any relationship between the prince and Snow White. He’s on screen for 3 minutes to sing a song and then kiss her at the end. That’s it. So I kind of get what she’s saying.
 

Disney Irish

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Disney Irish

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Well, there never is any relationship between the prince and Snow White. He’s on screen for 3 minutes to sing a song and then kiss her at the end. That’s it. So I kind of get what she’s saying.
Here's the thing, first its a quote taken out of context and second she never said the original in its entirety is "creepy", in fact I don't believe she even says the word "creepy" as all. She is talking about a single scene that lasts all of like 30 seconds in a 83min movie.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Here's the thing, first its a quote taken out of context and second she never said the original in its entirety is "creepy", in fact I don't believe she even says the word "creepy" as all. She is talking about a single scene that lasts all of like 30 seconds in a 83min movie.
No she said weird but I think she’s identifying the difference between a short animated film where there’s no relationship explained and a live action film where that wouldn’t happen.
 

easyrowrdw

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Here's the thing, first its a quote taken out of context and second she never said the original in its entirety is "creepy", in fact I don't believe she even says the word "creepy" as all. She is talking about a single scene that lasts all of like 30 seconds in a 83min movie.
I didn't hear her use the words creepy either, but I don't think her statements were taken out of context. I found the original interview in full and don't see anything that changes the meaning of what she said.
Correct she didn’t, people just look for reasons to be upset.

There is plenty in this world to be upset about, this isn’t one of them.
"The original cartoon came out in 1937, and very evidently so. There's a big focus on her love story with a guy who literally stalks her. Weird! Weird!"

That's the quote that bothers people. I don't think her statements are an accurate description of the original movie so I can understand why someone who loves the movie would be upset by it. I can't know anyone's motives though.
 

Disney Irish

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I didn't hear her use the words creepy either, but I don't think her statements were taken out of context. I found the original interview in full and don't see anything that changes the meaning of what she said.

"The original cartoon came out in 1937, and very evidently so. There's a big focus on her love story with a guy who literally stalks her. Weird! Weird!"

That's the quote that bothers people. I don't think her statements are an accurate description of the original movie so I can understand why someone who loves the movie would be upset by it. I can't know anyone's motives though.
If people want to be upset and outraged, go ahead, but at least do it based on something real not some made up manufactured clickbait title of an article where they didn't even listen to the actual quote which is right in the article. The poster claimed someone said the original was "creepy", and when pressed on who actually said it was "creepy" produced that article as evidence of that being said, and no where in anything she said was the word "creepy" ever uttered. So its clear that poster is only going based on a clickbait article and not what was actually said, ie something made up, manufactured, and untrue.

Also she is talking about a 30 second scene from a 1937 83 minute movie, 30 seconds people. People have lost the meaning of what she is actually saying because they want to be outraged. Instead of focusing on the actual meaning, which is the original was a product of its time and we're modernizing it to bring it forward, and rather than focus on romantic love we're focusing on Snow herself and giving her more agency. Also just so its not lost, no where does she say that a love story is being completely removed, just that its not the primary focus of the movie anymore. In fact I take that to mean that there will be a love story, just not one based on a 30 second "meet cute" in the forest by a Prince who just appears out of nowhere.
 

easyrowrdw

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If people want to be upset and outraged, go ahead, but at least do it based on something real not some made up manufactured clickbait title of an article where they didn't even listen to the actual quote which is right in the article. The poster claimed someone said the original was "creepy", and when pressed on who actually said it was "creepy" produced that article as evidence of that being said, and no where in anything she said was the word "creepy" ever uttered. So its clear that poster is only going based on a clickbait article and not what was actually said, ie something made up, manufactured, and untrue.
It is. The article and poster misquoted her as saying it was creepy. She didn't. But she said, "The original cartoon came out in 1937, and very evidently so. There's a big focus on her love story with a guy who literally stalks her. Weird! Weird!" I agree with correcting the article and poster for misquoting her. But that doesn't negate what she actually said. And what she actually said is something that upset people.
 

Agent H

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I didn't hear her use the words creepy either, but I don't think her statements were taken out of context. I found the original interview in full and don't see anything that changes the meaning of what she said.

"The original cartoon came out in 1937, and very evidently so. There's a big focus on her love story with a guy who literally stalks her. Weird! Weird!"

That's the quote that bothers people. I don't think her statements are an accurate description of the original movie so I can understand why someone who loves the movie would be upset by it. I can't know anyone's motives though.
There’s something in our brains that motivates us to defend what we love to a t. that motivation can often blind us. Let’s use a comparison. Someone might say phineas and ferb a show I love doesn’t exactly have the best animation especially in the earlier seasons. My first thought is to prove that statement wrong. But if I take a step back for a minute I can kinda see it. It doesn’t mean I like the show any less it just means it’s not flawless. My point is take a step back for a moment. See how you feel about it then. You might come to a new conclusion. Snow White is a good movie and an artistic masterpiece but the romantic arc isn’t the best ever written. And that’s ok. It was fine for the time but if we’re going to remake it now maybe we should change that. try to improve it.there’s nothing wrong with that is there?
 
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Disney Irish

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It is. The article and poster misquoted her as saying it was creepy. She didn't. But she said, "The original cartoon came out in 1937, and very evidently so. There's a big focus on her love story with a guy who literally stalks her. Weird! Weird!" I agree with correcting the article and poster for misquoting her. But that doesn't negate what she actually said. And what she actually said is something that upset people.
But it isn't real. Again, if people want to be upset and outraged go ahead and I have never stated otherwise, all I've said was to do it for something real, which in this case in this thread was not real and based on something made up.

So yes some people are upset because she said "weird", and I'm ok with that, be upset even if I don't agree with you but at least those people are upset for something real.
 

easyrowrdw

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Is Unilad a reliable source? Never heard of them
I've never heard of the sources, but this is the full video of her interview with Extra. She does not say creepy.
But where is the lie?
I don't think the love story is a big focus of the movie. This feels almost inarguable. As Chi84 noted above, the Prince is barely in the movie.

I don't think the Prince stalks her, not in the common (creepy) meaning of the phrase. I do not think it's weird. These are more a matter of opinion of course.
 

Tony the Tigger

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I've never heard of the sources, but this is the full video of her interview with Extra. She does not say creepy.

I don't think the love story is a big focus of the movie. This feels almost inarguable. As Chi84 noted above, the Prince is barely in the movie.

I don't think the Prince stalks her, not in the common (creepy) meaning of the phrase. I do not think it's weird. These are more a matter of opinion of course.

Then why are people disproportionately upset about it?

He hears her singing. He startled her. She literally runs away and closes the door behind her.

If I’m using the word casually, “stalking” is not entirely inappropriate.

He then sings to her, apparently winning her over to the point she kisses a dove and it flies down to land on his hand. Fine. This is a children’s movie level of “love.” In the 1930’s.

That is the extent of their relationship.

Then everyone thinks she’s dead and puts her in a glass coffin, opens it after apparently seasons pass, and this guy comes out of nowhere and kisses her apparently dead body.

Not allowed to call that weird? A 20-year-old in the 2020s is so wrong for calling that weird?

And they live happily ever after. Awesome. Luke raped Laura on General Hospital and they got married. Weird stuff happens.

Obviously, it makes more sense if you are remaking that movie today, especially as a live action film, that you flesh that out more and make adjustments. And if they want to adjust the ending, that is their prerogative as the creatives.

But to crucify this girl over that comment is wholly unfair, and manufactured as another way to smear her rather than just saying she’s not white.
 

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