Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Chi84

Premium Member
There are no 100% AI generated posts. We are a bunch of dorks (me included) talking about films and coming from different sides of the political spectrum. That is a fact. Those who can't handle the discussion, scream AI...or whatever other tactic they have in their tool box to silence the opinion they don't agree with and can't argue against.
No one is screaming anything. The AI is pretty obvious.

I tend to just skip over whatever content sounds like it’s AI generated. But as long as it’s not against forum rules, people are free to use it.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I have no idea whether or to what extent you are using AI, but the post I'm quoting here, for example, sounds like a real person, whereas some of your other posts sound, well, different. For what it's worth, I personally prefer when you sound like a real person!
Thank you, and well said. Its fairly easy to spot something that sounds artificial and not from a real person, especially when it comes from a poster who has previously posted with a certain "style" or "voice".
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
which one concerned you? The one where I privately messaged you and said I respected you for fighting for what you believed in? This is all B.S. to take down my opinion. Is what it is.
None of them concerned me; I have never reported any of your posts. I was just encouraging you to write in your own voice rather than rely on outside tools.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Not sure why it needs to be said, but evidently it does, so here goes.

For what its worth, no one is trying to silence anyone's opinion here. Express all the opinions you want, provided its within the bounds of the sites rules. And if someone wants to engage in a discussion regarding that opinion they will do so, but no one is obligated to maintain that discussion, especially if it feels artificially generated. What is being asked is to respect your fellow posters and have the discussion in good faith using a real voice and opinion, not something artificially generated. I don't think that is too much to ask of our fellow posters here. And since its now officially part of the site's ToS, if you have an issue with it please take it up with the Mods.
 

Prince-1

Well-Known Member
I already talked about Mufasa upthread. It'll be passing Sonic 3 shortly on the domestic side, which firmly puts it into the top 10 for the year (#9, by my count), so I think that means that we'll be getting a profitability breakdown from Deadline in the Spring. Hopefully.



I'd say A Complete Unknown wasn't just made for Oscar nominations (musician biopics have been all the rage lately), but it certainly got some. That should mean that it'll stay in theaters through the 2nd weekend of March. It also looks like it's getting pretty good holds this week off of Chalamet's performance on SNL last weekend -- he sang 3 Dylan songs for those who missed it, so it was definitely aimed specifically to promote this movie.

I would guess that it's got at least $15m more domestic in it. It's only really started to roll out internationally in the last week or so, and doesn't open in some countries until the end of February, so it's anyone's guess what that number will look like as time passes. Walk the Line got a 2:1 US:Int'l split and more recent movies like Rocketman and Elvis (these are obviously bigger names than Dylan from a popularity standpoint) got 50:50 splits.



We're planning to see five movies this weekend. None of them Disney movies (yet), they're all doing too well at the moment for us to need to go see them.

I think that Bob Dylan is completely overrated. He has a horrible voice, but I do know he is a legendary songwriter, and I will say that I thought A Complete Unknown was a great movie. Timothée Chalamet and Ed Norton were fantastic.
 

easyrowrdw

Well-Known Member
I think that Bob Dylan is completely overrated. He has a horrible voice, but I do know he is a legendary songwriter, and I will say that I thought A Complete Unknown was a great movie. Timothée Chalamet and Ed Norton were fantastic.
I don’t have any interest in a Bob Dylan movie but I do like Edward Norton. Now I kinda want to see it lol
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
Y'all's definition of flatlined is really strange. I think it was BrianLo who was talking a month back or so about the dramatic underestimation of the long tail on this board.

Just counting from today to when Mufasa finally leaves theaters, it will make more than 85% of all US releases do in their entire theatrical run.

Yes, the movie was declared flatlined 150 million ago and has been re-declared as such every week.

I’m actually not doing this to gloat, I’m just trying to help people understand that successful movies have tails and they are fairly underestimated. Diminishing returns, sure. But not usually “flat”. Movies that Flatline as Walter says usually declare as such by their weekend 2 epic drops. Accelerated diminishing returns become apparent to us, but that’s also not normal. Movies pick up spare change for ages.

We’ll probably land a good 200M-250M over when this movie was declared flatlined… and in this case, that’s a significant difference. One that makes the film not a miss but actually a modest success. There’s always over eagerness to write the obituary for some reason. Maybe I just enjoy seeing how far things go and predicting the endpoint more than most?

Whatever this movie earns this weekend it will likely do again by a factor of at least 2X more by the end of its run.
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
Speaking of things that may affect future box office, WB got hit with another lawsuit for Superman -

https://www.reuters.com/business/me...copyright-lawsuit-ahead-new-movie-2025-01-31/
Doesn't this happen each time they start a new Superman movie series? I thought it happened with Snyders version and also Reeves version, I don't remember if there was anything with Routh, where the estate goes after them. I'm not sure it will have any affect at all since they want the movie to do well since it could mean a fat royalty check. I just don't see them (the estate) doing anything to really hinder the film.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Doesn't this happen each time they start a new Superman movie series? I thought it happened with Snyders version and also Reeves version, I don't remember if there was anything with Routh, where the estate goes after them. I'm not sure it will have any affect at all since they want the movie to do well since it could mean a fat royalty check. I just don't see them (the estate) doing anything to really hinder the film.
Problem here is it being filed so close to the release date. So this is more than just wanting some residuals from a single movie. This is about the future of the character itself. So the family of Shuster is willing to risk this upcoming film to ensure WB properly licenses the character for all future use. So yeah it could have an overall impact on this upcoming movie if the publicity is negative enough.
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
Problem here is it being filed so close to the release date. So this is more than just wanting some residuals from a single movie. This is about the future of the character itself. So the family of Shuster is willing to risk this upcoming film to ensure WB properly licenses the character for all future use. So yeah it could have an overall impact on this upcoming movie if the publicity is negative enough.
Sure it could, never say never. The quotes I've seen seem like they don't want to stop or even disturb the film, at least in my opinion. They just want proper licensing for some international markets. Of course WB says they are in the right, so we'll see how it plays out. I think if WB feels the movie could be hurt by this I'd bet they settle. There's just too much riding on this single film for the new DC universe. That's why I don't think it will cause any issues for the film.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Sure it could, never say never. The quotes I've seen seem like they don't want to stop or even disturb the film, at least in my opinion. They just want proper licensing for some international markets. Of course WB says they are in the right, so we'll see how it plays out. I think if WB feels the movie could be hurt by this I'd bet they settle. There's just too much riding on this single film for the new DC universe. That's why I don't think it will cause any issues for the film.
Yep, we'll see. But the timing is curious, you'd think if this was just about this single movie they would have filed the suit last year when filming started. So they are certainly doing this to force WBs hand into settling, rather than trying to drag this movie through the mud. Again its about the overall licensing of the character not a single movie in my opinion.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
I read an article the other day that said this legal battle has been going on for many years already, they lost in the US courts last year so now they’re filing in the UK where the contract laws are different.
 

DKampy

Well-Known Member
I have seen people in this thread say there really is not an Oscar’s bump anymore… well I just bought Sunday Matinee tickets for A Complete Unknown and except for the 2 tows in the front…it was nearly sold out… I bought the only 2 seats together available for us…. I was not expecting that considering the movie has been playing at our local theater since Christmas Day
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I don't disagree, however the ToS does say this -

"However, it is not acceptable to use AI to create entire posts."

Which that poster has been called out before for doing, and not just by me but multiple posters. So if they or any other poster wants to use AI in the appropriate way, I have no issue with it, as stated in this thread I'm very familiar with it due my use of it in my daily tech life. :)
I think she’s gently telling you not to be the gatekeeper, Vinz Clortho
 


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