Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Disney Irish

Premium Member
To nitpick: there are plenty of valid points that simply can’t be made in this forum because of forum rules. Political points, perhaps most notably.

More private groups could be quite fun.



I remain blissfully unaware. Highly recommend!
One can actually post quite openly here about many topics including those points without breaking forum rules, I do it all the time. And if it wades into those topics and gets too extreme then the mods clean it up and we move on. This is actually one of the most open forums I’ve been on in many many years.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Well I hate their management…it’s a clown show of compiling mistakes and showing what not to do based on their own History…

But that is NOT hating Disney. It’s the opposite.

There will be less bickering around here when the “standard” doesn’t fall into the “cheerlead or hate” factions
Oh yes we all know your stance on things very well, you only post about it almost non stop.

As for the other, you’ll always have the “love vs hate” bickering, that is just par for the course in a fandom.
 

brideck

Well-Known Member
So I will say if I like a movie or not (if that's ok)

If the movie makes money OK if the movie does not make money OK.

This pretty closely matches my philosophy re: movies. I love them, and I could care less on an individual level which ones make the most. (In fact, the ones that make the most money are generally among my least favorite because by the nature of making a billion dollars they have to appeal to the broadest audience possible, which pretty much always means that a lot of creative compromises have been made.) I do care, in general, that the industry figure things out and succeed, though, because that's how future me gets more new movies.

Also, keeping an eye on what movies succeed and fail help me understand why trends in the industry happen (sequels and franchises, right now) and (specifically from the context of a Disney parks forum) help me see what is popular/successful enough for Disney to leverage in future park shows and attractions.
 

Tony the Tigger

Well-Known Member
One can actually post quite openly here about many topics including those points without breaking forum rules, I do it all the time. And if it wades into those topics and gets too extreme then the mods clean it up and we move on. This is actually one of the most open forums I’ve been on in many many years.
I’m glad it works for you. I feel very restricted. I think there are relevant points that affect a segment of Disney fandom (and their reaction to more recent films, attractions, and TV shows) that we can’t discuss because…reasons.

I couldn’t even say what I wanted directly in that sentence.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I’m glad it works for you. I feel very restricted. I think there are relevant points that affect a segment of Disney fandom (and their reaction to more recent films, attractions, and TV shows) that we can’t discuss because…reasons.

I couldn’t even say what I wanted directly in that sentence.
I'm aware that it can feel restricting, but I think it all comes down to how things are said and if it gets heated or not. So many times topics raise the heat so much that it just ends up in fights and losing the conversation and that is when things have to be cleaned up. I've had plenty of posts removed that I felt were fine, but its just par for the course in a public forum. Still doesn't mean I don't feel I can say what needs to be said, I just try to find ways to say it without having to break the rules. I'm sure you've seen me go on plenty of multi-page rants about very deep topics. So obviously I can rant with the best of them. ;)
 

easyrowrdw

Well-Known Member
Of course not. It's the relentless framing and narrative spinning that is the nonsensical part. I can't really think of many other posters around here who show up (on this particular thread anyway) absolutely intent on telling a particular story. Ad nauseum. They almost write themselves at this point.
From my perspective, I think that’s fairly common in this thread. After reading for a while, I think one can pretty reliably predict the general tenor of a post (positive or negative) for certain posters. I think maybe that’s why it seems to be the same arguments over and over again 😂
 

Ghost93

Well-Known Member
I haven't commented too much on the box office of Mufasa as it's not a film I feel passionately about one way or the other. I'm glad it's not an utter debacle — both artistically and commercially —but it's not a movie that inspires extreme love or hatred. It's perfectly "fine." I suspect the soundtrack (which admittedly has a few good songs), is playing a role in the movie having better legs with families than Moana 2 (Which opened strong at the box office, but has had more significant drops due to poor word of mouth and forgettable songs).

However, I can get excited about the box office success of something like Nosferatu! Glad to see an old-school horror film with such a distinct directorial stamp is being embraced by general audiences. It's just a shame the movie isn't getting any awards chatter, as it's better than some of the likely Best Picture nominees like A Complete Unkown or Emilia Perez.
 

Tony the Tigger

Well-Known Member
I haven't commented too much on the box office of Mufasa as it's not a film I feel passionately about one way or the other. I'm glad it's not an utter debacle — both artistically and commercially —but it's not a movie that inspires extreme love or hatred. It's perfectly "fine." I suspect the soundtrack (which admittedly has a few good songs), is playing a role in the movie having better legs with families than Moana 2 (Which opened strong at the box office, but has had more significant drops due to poor word of mouth and forgettable songs).

However, I can get excited about the box office success of something like Nosferatu! Glad to see an old-school horror film with such a distinct directorial stamp is being embraced by general audiences. It's just a shame the movie isn't getting any awards chatter, as it's better than some of the likely Best Picture nominees like A Complete Unkown or Emilia Perez.
I’m hearing it’s good, but also: not for me. Apparently, too gross. I have no tolerance for gross or gory, just don’t enjoy it.
 

Farerb

Well-Known Member
When he first started posting about 'the biz,' he clearly knew next to nothing.

When we showed him where to find the stats, he cherry picked them to make Disney look bad, even going on a posting spree the year Disney's movies weren't doing well.

Then, in the year Disney movies were doing very well... a lot of silence.

Until he smelled blood in the water regarding Mufasa.

Some expert.
He's funny.

I don't understand why people here take it so seriously, they're just movies.

I think the worst thing to happen for film discourse is the obsession with box office and rotten tomatoes scores. Almost no one talks about anything else regarding Mufasa.
 

brideck

Well-Known Member
I haven't commented too much on the box office of Mufasa as it's not a film I feel passionately about one way or the other. I'm glad it's not an utter debacle — both artistically and commercially —but it's not a movie that inspires extreme love or hatred. It's perfectly "fine." I suspect the soundtrack (which admittedly has a few good songs), is playing a role in the movie having better legs with families than Moana 2 (Which opened strong at the box office, but has had more significant drops due to poor word of mouth and forgettable songs).

It feels like Moana 2 has also gotten a bigger holiday bump than I would've expected, especially with other family movies in the marketplace at the same time. But I suppose it's probably the safest one for the youngest audiences right now, and will be until Dog Man arrives. The long, slow climb to $450m (and beyond?) continues. And for what it's worth, I really enjoyed the music in this one -- good mix of Polynesian language stuff with the more poppy numbers.

However, I can get excited about the box office success of something like Nosferatu! Glad to see an old-school horror film with such a distinct directorial stamp is being embraced by general audiences. It's just a shame the movie isn't getting any awards chatter, as it's better than some of the likely Best Picture nominees like A Complete Unkown or Emilia Perez.

I haven't seen any of these three yet, but I'm sure Nosferatu is awesome -- Eggers is a master. GoldDerby tells me that it's probably in line for a Cinematography nomination, but yeah... none of the biggies. That could cut its legs off some as the calendar rolls into February.

Don't watch The Substance then! 🤣

Ha. Too true. Awesome movie, though.
 

DKampy

Well-Known Member
Don't watch The Substance then! 🤣
Speaking of surprise award contenders(in a good way) I never thought The Substance had a chance… but I think the film has a good shot at getting multiple Oscar nominations including best picture…. And Demi Moore may have just put herself among the front runners for lead actress after her speech at the Golden Globes
 
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