Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

brideck

Well-Known Member
Just a quick fact check though that it would be quite impossible to lose 400M on Mufasa in any scenario.

Thanks for this. I must have missed that comment the first time around, but saw it when it was quoted yesterday. Was trying to figure out how a $200m-$250m movie could ever lose that much, and it makes sense that it... well... couldn't.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
I’m not joining the fray because I don’t really have any problems with the premature declarations… because inevitably they’ll be proven right or wrong in a matter of months on most of these films. I actually enjoy TP’s comments and our back and forth more than people think I do. Probably agreeing with 80% of what he is saying in any given take. This after all is a hobby topic.

Thank you for getting it! :)

I believe part of the issue at hand is that some of us have fond relationships that go back many years over on the Disneyland forum, and at other dearly departed websites that go back decades. The nuance and friendly debate goes over some folks heads, I'm afraid.

What I find hilarious is that people think others on here are movie experts because they post about box office results ad nauseam and can copy and paste graphs from other websites.

For about the 45th time, I am just like everyone else here in not being an expert on box office. After decades of living, a successful career, and in my happy retirement I remain an expert in only a handful of things; cocktail recipes, Disneyland trivia, and witty dinner conversation. Not necessarily in that order. I can also quickly list all 50 states in alphabetical order, which rarely comes in handy but it's there when I need it.

If the factual box office data in the graphs bothers you, change the data. Which is exactly what Bob Iger and his studio heads are trying to do with their creative decisions in 2024 and onward, after the big mistakes and misjudgments of the global marketplace they made in 2020-2023.

I expect by 2026-27, the graphs are going to be more pleasant to look at. But first we need to get past Snow White. 🤣
 

Prince-1

Well-Known Member
Thank you for getting it! :)

I believe part of the issue at hand is that some of us have fond relationships that go back many years over on the Disneyland forum, and at other dearly departed websites that go back decades. The nuance and friendly debate goes over some folks heads, I'm afraid.



For about the 45th time, I am just like everyone else here in not being an expert on box office. After decades of living, a successful career, and in my happy retirement I remain an expert in only a handful of things; cocktail recipes, Disneyland trivia, and witty dinner conversation. Not necessarily in that order. I can also quickly list all 50 states in alphabetical order, which rarely comes in handy but it's there when I need it.

If the factual box office data in the graphs bothers you, change the data. Which is exactly what Bob Iger and his studio heads are trying to do with their creative decisions in 2024 and onward, after the big mistakes and misjudgments of the global marketplace they made in 2020-2023.

I expect by 2026-27, the graphs are going to be more pleasant to look at. But first we need to get past Snow White. 🤣

Oh, you have proven yourself not to be an expert on movies time and time again. You do not have to convince me on that.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
This is confusing...

Robbie Williams indie biopic (Dec 2024) in which, solely for an artistic statement, he has the head of a chimp...




Illuminations CGI film (Jan 2025) based in the Captain Underpants world...




Universal trying to reignite a modern Monster Cinematic Universe with Wolf Man, i.e., a Werewolf (Jan 2025)...

 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
You might want to tell whomever you're in private group chats with then because they're convinced you're an expert in such topics as the "most experienced Hollywood/movie industry commentators on the board".
Well, you might want to tell Sirwalter that you aren’t an expert on anything movie related because you have him fooled hook, line, and sinker.

After a long evening of watching the crushing news out of LA tonight (fires, looting, government incompetence, etc.) I'm in an uncharacteristically contemplative mood. So I have no problem in saying...

I have no earthly idea what either of you are talking about. Someone in some private chat thinks I'm a Hollywood industry expert? If that's the case, they must be an idiot. My posts here stand for themselves in that regard. 🤣

Looking at the little envelope thing on my screen, I have a short list of private conversations from the past few years. For the past few months in particular they consist of a long-running chat with a lovely lady here who shares here best recipes and family news with me, and I in return. Plus a random conversation last month with a moderator here known as "The Mom" and we exchanged brief information about European river cruises and general Christmas good wishes. Otherwise.... nothing regarding the Hollywood movie industry.

I'm gonna rank this up there with that time five years ago when I was accused of being a secret Disney executive who overthrew Michael Eisner in 2005, was the ghost writer for Al Lutz since the Clinton years, and elevated Bob Iger to his rightful place on the throne. All via discussion forum posts. That, and also cocktails and Disneyland trivia.

I'm an Influencer! :cool:
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
After a long evening of watching the crushing news out of LA tonight (fires, looting, government incompetence, etc.) I'm in an uncharacteristically contemplative mood. So I have no problem in saying...

I have no earthly idea what either of you are talking about. Someone in some private chat thinks I'm a Hollywood industry expert? If that's the case, they must be an idiot. My posts here stand for themselves in that regard. 🤣

Looking at the little envelope thing on my screen, I have a short list of private conversations from the past few years. For the past few months in particular they consist of a long-running chat with a lovely lady here who shares here best recipes and family news with me, and I in return. Plus a random conversation last month with a moderator here known as "The Mom" and we exchanged brief information about European river cruises and general Christmas good wishes. Otherwise.... nothing regarding the Hollywood movie industry.

I'm gonna rank this up there with that time five years ago when I was accused of being a secret Disney executive who overthrew Michael Eisner in 2005, was the ghost writer for Al Lutz since the Clinton years, and elevated Bob Iger to his rightful place on the throne. All via discussion forum posts. That, and also cocktails and Disneyland trivia.

I'm an Influencer! :cool:

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I hadn’t gotten around to hitting the post button. Sometimes I think better of poking the bear. But since you said it first… I just want you to know I had this one pegged.


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Wendy Pleakley

Well-Known Member
I don't think we see these numbers often so this is interesting info about digital home releases not necessarily hurting theatrical revenue as well as how much they can add to a movie's bottom line.


Marking a rare glimpse into the results of these things, Universal has announced that the release of its uber-popular musical “Wicked” on digital platforms on New Year’s Eve racked up $26 million in first day sales and $70 million in first week sales in North America.

The title is currently available for $30 purchase & $20 rent. The shift to digital has had no real impact on box-office – the title still managed to pull in a further $10 million last weekend in its seventh weekend of release in cinemas despite being available on digital platforms.
 

DKampy

Well-Known Member
I don't think we see these numbers often so this is interesting info about digital home releases not necessarily hurting theatrical revenue as well as how much they can add to a movie's bottom line.


Marking a rare glimpse into the results of these things, Universal has announced that the release of its uber-popular musical “Wicked” on digital platforms on New Year’s Eve racked up $26 million in first day sales and $70 million in first week sales in North America.

The title is currently available for $30 purchase & $20 rent. The shift to digital has had no real impact on box-office – the title still managed to pull in a further $10 million last weekend in its seventh weekend of release in cinemas despite being available on digital platforms.
There is an srgument to be made…. That perhaps Wicked would of made that no matter when the digital PVOD would of drop… as there are a massive amount of wicked fans even before the movie was ever in production

If I was Universal I would of waited till after the Academy Awards as any chance of an Oscar bump In theaters is now gone
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
If I was Universal I would of waited till after the Academy Awards as any chance of an Oscar bump In theaters is now gone
Not necessarily, re-releases and theater count bumps can and do happen around Oscar time for nominees and winners.

Also as has been discussed here before the post-Oscar bump is a bit overblown, it doesn't add all that much to the box office in a majority of cases. But maybe Wicked will buck that trend and have a resurgence post-Oscars, you never know. ;)
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
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I hadn’t gotten around to hitting the post button. Sometimes I think better of poking the bear. But since you said it first… I just want you to know I had this one pegged.


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Isn't it great?! Sometimes I just love it here so much, it's all just so funny! Me, now a "Hollywood insider"! Imagine?!? 🤣

NEWS: You guys, I'm going to go see a movie! o_O It's true. Plans for a steakhouse visit to Las Vegas next week with old friends who know their steaks has just morphed a bit and been extended by a night. And then someone insisted we go see a movie, and I groaned inside. In Vegas?! But then the movie was explained to me and I'm all in on it now. It's called "The Last Showgirl" and it stars Pamela Anderson as, well, the last showgirl.

It's not from one of Disney's studios, so there is no dedicated thread for it (nor should there be). But I'll report back in 10 days with my thoughts on it as a Hollywood insider and lover of all things cinematic as an audience member digesting steak.

While we wait for that, here's the box office for Thursday showing the preview box office for this weekend's newest...

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Disney Irish

Premium Member
This was mentioned in the Mufasa thread, but thought it should be mentioned here too.

Per Deadline - "Mufasa crossed the half billion mark at the global box office"


So it has likely crossed the breakeven mark and into profitability at this point. Not a roaring success, but also not a whimper of a loss either.

Also reported by Deadline, "Moana 2 yesterday clocked $971.1M worldwide", so its inching ever closer to the $1B mark. Something that many here thought was impossible when it first opened.
 

brideck

Well-Known Member
NEWS: You guys, I'm going to go see a movie! o_O It's true. Plans for a steakhouse visit to Las Vegas next week with old friends who know their steaks has just morphed a bit and been extended by a night. And then someone insisted we go see a movie, and I groaned inside. In Vegas?! But then the movie was explained to me and I'm all in on it now. It's called "The Last Showgirl" and it stars Pamela Anderson as, well, the last showgirl.

I just saw this last night. I have no prediction as to whether you'll like it at all. It's based at least in part on interviews that the screenwriter did with cast members of the long-running Jubilee! show before it closed in 2016. For a Disney hook, it also stars Suite Life kid Brenda Song in a supporting role.
 

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