Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

DKampy

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I wonder how much Disney merchandise actually get sold. I'm sure most of it ends up being shipped to third world countries to poison their land and sea.

Disney is the ultimate Buy n' Large.


I am sure plenty of it sells… Disney has a pretty sizable Lbgtq+ fan base…And as somebody who lived in the Orlando area there is decent size gay community there
 

Farerb

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Dunno if it was posted already but Snow White’s budget is $240M according to Variety.
I honestly don't understand why this movie had to cost slightly less than The Little Mermaid and The Lion King. Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast had a budget of $95 million and $160 million respectively and there was no reason Snow White couldn't have the same budget. And while I don't care for these remakes both of them look better than Snow White (and Little Mermaid for that matter) in terms of production design. They should have found a beautiful forest location and film there instead of horrendous CGI everywhere.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I honestly don't understand why this movie had to cost slightly less than The Little Mermaid and The Lion King. Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast had a budget of $95 million and $160 million respectively and there was no reason Snow White couldn't have the same budget. And while I don't care for these remakes both of them look better than Snow White (and Little Mermaid for that matter) in terms of production design. They should have found a beautiful forest location and film there instead of horrendous CGI everywhere.
Cost increases happen for many reason, but in this case a lot of it was attributed to production delays due to the pandemic, and then later the strikes which delayed any reshoots. Had the delays not happened it probably would have been closer to BatB.
 

TP2000

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I don't think Elemental counts as that queer character was blink and you miss it.

Exactly. It was a 4 second scene where Wade introduces his sister and her girlfriend. Who sit two feet apart from each other.

It wasn't quite the Sapphic version of Splendor In The Grass, was it? ;)
 

LittleBuford

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Exactly. It was a 4 second scene where Wade introduces his sister and her girlfriend. Who sit two feet apart from each other.

It wasn't quite the Sapphic version of Splendor In The Grass, was it? ;)
His sibling, not sister.

It wasn't quite the Sapphic version of Splendor In The Grass, was it? ;)
Nor was the blink-and-you’d-miss-it kiss in Lightyear.
 

erasure fan1

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Variety claims $240M, and Forbes claims $269.4M. So who knows which is correct as reshoot budgets aren’t public usually. However none of those take into account the UK tax rebate that Disney got, which lowers the price tag by $55.5M bringing even the top end to $213.9M.

So that is the figure that should be used for any calculations, $213.9M.
You are right, it's anyone's guess what the budget was on it. I've seen it reported as at the high end before reshoots. I'd be surprised if we ever see any real numbers on it. They do not want those out at all. If it flops hard, the less financial info out there the better. Even if it does well, they don't want the narrative, well it still didn't profit because the budget was out of control. As an example, mermaid with a reasonable budget does ok financially.
 

easyrowrdw

Well-Known Member
Exactly. It was a 4 second scene where Wade introduces his sister and her girlfriend. Who sit two feet apart from each other.

It wasn't quite the Sapphic version of Splendor In The Grass, was it? ;)
Thanks for explaining. I keep seeing this referenced here regarding Elemental, but have no recollection of it. If not for this thread/board I would have no idea there was even anything like that in the movie.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
You are right, it's anyone's guess what the budget was on it. I've seen it reported as at the high end before reshoots. I'd be surprised if we ever see any real numbers on it. They do not want those out at all. If it flops hard, the less financial info out there the better. Even if it does well, they don't want the narrative, well it still didn't profit because the budget was out of control. As an example, mermaid with a reasonable budget does ok financially.
That is why for discussion purposes it’s best to just use the $213.9M number as it’s the closest we’ll come to any real number for this movie as that is at least verifiable through financial reports.
 

Ghost93

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Thanks for explaining. I keep seeing this referenced here regarding Elemental, but have no recollection of it. If not for this thread/board I would have no idea there was even anything like that in the movie.
There was an article quoting the voice actor about Wade's sibling/sister being nonbinary, but it's NEVER stated in the movie that the character is nonbinary. Furthermore, Wade uses "her" as a pronoun to discuss the nonbinary character in question.
 

LittleBuford

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There was an article quoting the voice actor about Wade's sibling/sister being nonbinary, but it's NEVER stated in the movie that the character is nonbinary. Furthermore, Wade uses "her" as a pronoun to discuss the nonbinary character in question.
Doesn’t change the fact that the character is presented as queer: “Anyway, that's my little sib, Lake, and her girlfriend, Ghibli." Had Wade used “their”, it would actually have made Lake’s queerness less obvious (since audiences may have interpreted the character as male).
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
Thanks for explaining. I keep seeing this referenced here regarding Elemental, but have no recollection of it. If not for this thread/board I would have no idea there was even anything like that in the movie.
I think a lot of things are amplified here that have very little bearing on the real world. To read certain people’s posts, you’d think Lightyear failed on the basis of a fleeting kiss in a brief flashback sequence, and not because it was dull and joyless.
 

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