Disney Irish
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Whether you find it hilarious or not, Disney is not shying away from representation despite some who claim they are backing away from it.
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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I'm sure most if it is turned into bullets with which to shoot puppies.
Any other things you're sure of?
TP2000
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Exactly. It was a 4 second scene where Wade introduces his sister and her girlfriend. Who sit two feet apart from each other.
It wasn't quite the Sapphic version of Splendor In The Grass, was it?
LittleBuford
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His sibling, not sister.Exactly. It was a 4 second scene where Wade introduces his sister and her girlfriend. Who sit two feet apart from each other.
It wasn't quite the Sapphic version of Splendor In The Grass, was it?
Nor was the blink-and-you’d-miss-it kiss in Lightyear.It wasn't quite the Sapphic version of Splendor In The Grass, was it?
Phroobar
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Better than Pixie Dust.
I believe Wicked took back the top spot at the box office from Moana 2 the other day.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
It did for the midweek lull, possible for Moana to take it back for the weekend.
I could see Wicked beating it - it has such a momentum right now.
erasure fan1
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You are right, it's anyone's guess what the budget was on it. I've seen it reported as at the high end before reshoots. I'd be surprised if we ever see any real numbers on it. They do not want those out at all. If it flops hard, the less financial info out there the better. Even if it does well, they don't want the narrative, well it still didn't profit because the budget was out of control. As an example, mermaid with a reasonable budget does ok financially.
easyrowrdw
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Thanks for explaining. I keep seeing this referenced here regarding Elemental, but have no recollection of it. If not for this thread/board I would have no idea there was even anything like that in the movie.Exactly. It was a 4 second scene where Wade introduces his sister and her girlfriend. Who sit two feet apart from each other.
It wasn't quite the Sapphic version of Splendor In The Grass, was it?
Disney Irish
Premium Member
That is why for discussion purposes it’s best to just use the $213.9M number as it’s the closest we’ll come to any real number for this movie as that is at least verifiable through financial reports.
Ghost93
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There was an article quoting the voice actor about Wade's sibling/sister being nonbinary, but it's NEVER stated in the movie that the character is nonbinary. Furthermore, Wade uses "her" as a pronoun to discuss the nonbinary character in question.
DisneyWarrior27
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My thoughts exactly.
Eh. I think both movies will each get $500M domestic.
LittleBuford
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Doesn’t change the fact that the character is presented as queer: “Anyway, that's my little sib, Lake, and her girlfriend, Ghibli." Had Wade used “their”, it would actually have made Lake’s queerness less obvious (since audiences may have interpreted the character as male).
LittleBuford
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I think a lot of things are amplified here that have very little bearing on the real world. To read certain people’s posts, you’d think Lightyear failed on the basis of a fleeting kiss in a brief flashback sequence, and not because it was dull and joyless.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Not to mention having very little to do with the character everyone wanted to see, and not being voiced by the actor who made the character what he was. Both of which were the biggest factors, not the other stuff.
LittleBuford
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I understand why the character was different—he was meant to be the original, after all, rather than the toy version. It could have worked well if executed better. Alas, what they gave us was really plodding.
Disney Irish
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I understand the concept they were going for, but it was just stupid in the way they did, execution as you mentioned. Could have been done better and with Allen being the voice, would have performed a whole lot better even with the minor kiss controversy.
TP2000
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I'm not an expert on the latest 2SLGBTQQIA+ lingo, and there's no "N" in that acronym, but wouldn't the fact that she is described as a "she" by Wade during introductions make her by definition binary?
She is a girl. Wade's sister, in fact. And while it's not said out loud in the movie, it is implied through blatant coding that would make Paul Lynde blush that her girlfriend is linked to her romantically and not just a platonic gal pal girlfriend. So what part of her story is non-binary?
This reminds me of the backstory for the queue in Tiana's Bayou Adventure. Some intern at WDI wrote up a whole bunch of inane backstory for the log ride that is vaguely and/or barely mentioned or alluded to in the queue. And in the world of a Parks Blog post a year or two before the ride opened, it exists. But now while actual paying customers are waiting in line for the actual log ride, that fabricated backstory is either unseen, unexplained, or ignored entirely.
Wade's sister being non-binary by declaration of an actress on Instagram 6 months before the movie came out in theaters seems just like that. But if that's what the kids want with "representation" today, then so be it. It seems all rather silly and pandering to me, but then perhaps my expectations are too high for what "representation" actually is?
TP2000
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The thing with Wicked Vs. Moana 2 is that Wicked has very weak box office overseas, compared to the USA.
The lone exception seemingly being the UK, with modest box office so far of $36 Million, or a third of its total overseas take.
But just across the Channel and Wicked has weak European box office, and extremely weak Asian box office. Wicked seems to mainly be an American phenom, with a small outpost of decent box office in the UK likely owing to London's West End theater scene. It's definitely not big in Germany or Japan, unlike David Hasselhoff.
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Wicked (2024) - Financial Information
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