LittleBuford
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I don’t think many would agree with you that Pixar’s more recent films are all “crap”. Coco is by no means the only movie to undermine such a hyperbolic characterisation.
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Disney Irish
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Exactly, while not everyone may have like them but Soul, Luca, and Onward were good Pixar original movies.
LittleBuford
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Onward is a personal favourite. It’s also the last film I saw at the cinema before lockdown (I had the entire screen to myself!).
Happy early weekend, gang! I hope we've all got summer fun in the sun planned!
Here's box office for yesterday, previewing what should be another very strong weekend for Deadpool & Wolverine, plus the big boffo box office of the summer Inside Out 2!
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Should become the highest grossing R rated film of all time (domestic) by Sunday, beating out the “Passion of the Christ”, which landed that top spot 20 years ago.
Feels ironic for Jesus to be booted out by Deadpool.
Disney Irish
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Well he is Marvel Jesus after all.....
Crap in resonance with the masses is a fact though
Quality ans taste in segmentation of course varies.
LittleBuford
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Well, Toy Story 4 (2019) did very well with the masses, earning more than a billion at the box office.
doctornick
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And you are missing the best Pixar movie since the pandemic in Elemental.
Yep. That is why my original post said "crap" referencing performance and a lot of"sequels." Toy Story 4 would certainly be considered a sequel.
Elemental was mentioned as the one to earn the brand trust and pave the way for Inside Out 2 to perform even better.
Elemental was mentioned at the beginning of this exchange as the one that earned the trust back and likely helped Inside Out 2 perform even better.
BrianLo
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I have never gotten the flavour of huge top tier popularity in pediatrics (unlike Moana, Coco, Frozen, Encanto, Zootopia etc), but I relate to the framework massively!
I’ve reframed mood quandaries into ‘have you seen inside out 2? Who drives your brain the most?’ and 6-12 year olds really get that.
Even some parents can’t seem to grasp the concept of ‘mood’ otherwise. It helps that so many people have seen this one now.
BrianLo
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And Turning Red was the most popular of the four - also critically very well received.
Anyone who thinks Pixar’s output is ‘crap’ recently probably didn’t engage with them or had impossible expectations. Or has a fanboy agenda.
Elemental had great word of mouth… but I don’t believe for a second that Inside Out 2 would of had any noticeable difference in box office without Elemental
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easyrowrdw
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Was it really? I would not have guessed that.And Turning Red was the most popular of the four - also critically very well received.
Anyone who thinks Pixar’s output is ‘crap’ recently probably didn’t engage with them or had impossible expectations. Or has a fanboy agenda.
Personally I wouldn’t say crap, but in the 2020s Inside Out 2 is the only Pixar movie I’ve been interested in watching more than once. (I have kids though so I have lol) They’re mostly just ok IMO and I don’t think they come anywhere close to the peak. Maybe that’s an unrealistic standard, but it is one that Pixar use to hit regularly for me.
BrianLo
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Ya it was. I think the demo of the forums just overlapped quite poorly with who actually watched the films. Soul was the most high brow but also the least favoured long term. Onward I think got a bit buried. But Luca and Turning Red have both done quite well in the streaming rotation. They still poke their way occasionally into D+'s top ten movies.
Both (Turning Red and Luca) would have likely been reasonable modest successes if they were released into a receptive theatrical environment.
Note Luca was already into its second year of streaming below. Eternals was a 2022 streaming release.
Hawkeye_2018
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Onward is great. Should be classic if Covid doesn’t happen
That basically means Turning Red resonated less than...Sing 2 which did well in theaters considering the timing and close to Turning Red at Home.
BrianLo
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And...? Sing 2 is also quite popular. And a sequel. And was released on the far larger share Netflix. But it's absolutely unnecessarily splitting hairs.
Is your thesis that Sing 2 is now also crap? Because I know you don't think that.
You completely have forgotten the point you were trying to make. Pixar made neither bad movies, nor sequels for the better part. They were serially held back financially (which is not a measuring stick of quality) by poor decision making by the former CEO.
Take off the Comcast fanboy goggles for two seconds, the Pixar of the last decade is exactly the company we're supposed to pine for. Not the sequel factory that is forthcoming.
Sing 2 underperformed, not a god comparison for success. It did more than ok because it's budget.
Again, crap for Financials, and resonating with masses, not crap.for quality. I like Soul. Onward was a goodmemotional.time.too.
Thusnis a box office thread.
Turning Red, Soul and Lightyear did not resonate.
It is not that one should line for Pixar of Lightyear and Cars Sequels.
It is just the desperation to latch on continues to hit.
Not just a Pixar problem either.