Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Ghost93]

Hiya, gang. I hope everyone had a fabulous Father's Day weekend and celebrated the Dads and Uncles and Grandads in our life with barbecued steaks and whiskey and ancient tales of riding lawnmower hijinks. My sister and I sure did!

Here's the first pass at weekend Box Office domestically, and after a scan of this thread it seems we're all aware of just how boffo successful Inside Out 2 was for Pixar this weekend! It's well on its way to a roughly $500 Million breakeven point sometime before Independence Day (more accurate math to come, when the sun is out tomorrow)...

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The Numbers - Weekend Box Office Chart for August 2, 2024

Weekend Domestic Box Office Chart for the weekend of August 2, 2024

www.the-numbers.com

But what does BURBANK think about all of this good news!?!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

But what does BURBANK think about all of this good news!?!

Probably approved 9 more sequels after they got off the vert climber

 

[erasure fan1]

Probably approved 9 more sequels after they got off the vert climber

You haven't heard? 5th gate approved! Inside out kingdom!

 

[doctornick]

Man put this movie out of it's misery. I can't imagine it was designed to be of vital importance to the greater MCU.

I personally have no particular interest in Blade anyway, so if it got cancelled I don't care. It always seemed like a odd choice for the MCU, probably would work best as a not particularly connected TV show IMHO

 

[doctornick]

Can you share a source? He was executive producer on all of their D+ series and heavily involved in those series and those films. The idea that he’s spent time away from Marvel to work on his Star Wars film (that’s had no reported movement) is belied by the studio’s output post-Avengers.

Yeah, I'm curious too because I follow the MCU a decent bit and have never seen that Feige "stepped back" or anything of the sort. The closest I've seen was that he was stretched thin with so many projects and had to delegate more, but he ultimately was still in charge of everything that has been made in the MCU and had some degree of control of it all.

Going forward, the idea is that they will try to decrease the amount of content so he will spend more time with each project. but that's far different from the idea that he left and is returning.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

As far as failures go…they’re still failures. It’s a silly stance to claim otherwise

There was never an anti-Disney agenda

Now there’s the silly stance.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Now there’s the silly stance.

Not in the slightest.

This is the same thing as when people claim Disney parks are boycotted for political reasons…
It does NOT happen. Humans aren’t known to deny themselves anything they remotely want.

Same with movies…if it’s good…people will gravitate toward it.

Hell…they even go towards a lot of bad movies.

If they don’t show…it’s truly awful. A total miss.

 

[LSLS]

I think it really boils down to what you call a boycott. I'm sure some people won't go see a Disney movie for political reasons. But I think that's an insane minority. What I do think you now have is that Disney has lost the benefit of the doubt. I think before people would go to movies because they saw Disney on the name, and I think that trust is gone. That name no longer means "pack the family, we are heading to the movie. Don't know anything about the movie, but we are off." I do think one thing we are learning is Inside Out was a much bigger property than it's been given credit for.

Other thing is, going to the movies is no quick easy family thing anymore. We were going to go this weekend, but tickets for the 4 of us were almost $50, and then another $50 for food/drinks. It's just not a "Hey, we have nothing to do, lets head to the movies today" thing for a lot of families, it's a plan and budget thing.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think it really boils down to what you call a boycott. I'm sure some people won't go see a Disney movie for political reasons. But I think that's an insane minority. What I do think you now have is that Disney has lost the benefit of the doubt. I think before people would go to movies because they saw Disney on the name, and I think that trust is gone. That name no longer means "pack the family, we are heading to the movie. Don't know anything about the movie, but we are off." I do think one thing we are learning is Inside Out was a much bigger property than it's been given credit for.

Other thing is, going to the movies is no quick easy family thing anymore. We were going to go this weekend, but tickets for the 4 of us were almost $50, and then another $50 for food/drinks. It's just not a "Hey, we have nothing to do, lets head to the movies today" thing for a lot of families, it's a plan and budget thing.

That hits it pretty close

The brand is down…which results in
More criticism/examination than they’ve been spoiled with in the past

Also…the pricing thing is real. Disney is being crushed by that in alot of their business

 

[Tony the Tigger]

If you’re not honest about reality, what’s the point?

Not in the slightest.

This is the same thing as when people claim Disney parks are boycotted for political reasons…
It does NOT happen. Humans aren’t known to deny themselves anything they remotely want.

Same with movies…if it’s good…people will gravitate toward it.

Hell…they even go towards a lot of bad movies.

If they don’t show…it’s truly awful. A total miss.

Thank you for proving my point. Conversation over.

 

[TP2000]

The Numbers has an estimate on overseas box office for Inside Out 2, which has already opened in all countries except two; Japan waits until August 1st, and Finland waits until July 17th because they're all so thrilled there that the last of the snow finally melted last week they need a month to just sit in the backyard.

Using the Box Office from this past weekend globally, here's how Inside Out 2 is doing on its rapid rise to profitability:

Inside Out 2: Production $200, Marketing $100, Domestic Take $93, Overseas Take $56 = $151 Loss And Shrinking Fast!

Inside Out 2 (2024) - Financial Information

Financial analysis of Inside Out 2 (2024) including budget, domestic and international box office gross, DVD and Blu-ray sales reports, total earnings and profitability.

www.the-numbers.com

 

[TP2000]

But what does BURBANK think about all of this good news!?!

I'd imagine Burbank is thrilled to finally have a money maker at the box office! A traditional, good old-fashioned, airtight, automatic summer box office money maker.

Speaking of Burbank, where is our old friend Buddy Thomas? He's the one who invented that drinking game, but he hasn't posted here in weeks. This seems right up his alley. Do we say it three times to see if we can get him to reappear???

Burbank. Burbank. Burbank!

 

[bwr827]

You haven't heard? 5th gate approved! Inside out kingdom!

Core Memories: An Inside Out Adventure Theme Park by DisneyTM

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Thank you for proving my point. Conversation over.

The conversation never happens if you are convinced everything is evil…

There’s always bugs bunny and six flags where the evil hate mongers don’t go…

 

[Disney Irish]

The conversation never happens if you are convinced everything is evil…

There’s always bugs bunny and six flags where the evil hate mongers don’t go…

Not everyone or everything is evil, no one made such a claim or even tried to convey it.

But to ignore that there is a section of the population that for whatever reason is upset with Disney, and not due to quality, is sticking your head in the sand. And its more than just "4 guys in their mom's basement" as you like to joke. Not everything comes down to just quality issues.

Hopefully 2024 ends with Disney on a positive note and people will be ready to have real conversations about this topic.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Not everyone or everything is evil, no one made such a claim or even tried to convey it.

But to ignore that there is a section of the population that for whatever reason is upset with Disney, and not due to quality, is sticking your head in the sand. And its more than just "4 guys in their mom's basement" as you like to joke. Not everything comes down to just quality issues.

Hopefully 2024 ends with Disney on a positive note and people will be ready to have real conversations about this topic.

I understand that feeling…

I just don’t believe you can by default equate failure with sabotage due to bigotry.

There is some of that…but it’s fringe.

What this seems to be is disappointment that the “progress” cannot be accelerated. But if it could be decreed they call it “completion”…not progress which implies time.

But the little mermaid, haunted mansion and marvels were not “progress”…it’s just crap from a company with terrible management. Sometimes a cake is just a cake.

 

[Disney Irish]

I understand that feeling…

I just don’t believe you can by default equate failure with sabotage due to bigotry.

There is some of that…but it’s fringe.

What this seems to be is disappointment that the “progress” cannot be accelerated. But if it could be decreed they call it “completion”…not progress which implies time.

But the little mermaid, haunted mansion and marvels were not “progress”…it’s just crap from a company with terrible management. Sometimes a cake is just a cake.

Its not as fringe as you think, you're discounting how main stream its really become over the last decade. I can't say more otherwise that will get into a topic that we're not allowed to talk about on this site.

As for the rest, I'm not disappointed at all in how things have progressed. Things take time and I understand that. Do I wish some things would progress faster, of course. But that is not how things in society necessarily move, they can, but not always.

I will disagree with you on what you call "crap". If some such as yourself didn't like it, I'm cool with that as that is just a matter of personal taste. Do I consider it was 100% top tier quality work, no. But I'm sorry I don't consider it "crap" either.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Ok, so if there is no need to defend, then there is no need to bash things either as you do. If the market/audience decides we got nothing to talk about. These forums are going to get very quiet soon enough. So I expect no longer seeing you post here anymore then since this was your idea.

There’s no point in engaging. He doesn’t argue in good faith.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Yeah, I'm curious too because I follow the MCU a decent bit and have never seen that Feige "stepped back" or anything of the sort. The closest I've seen was that he was stretched thin with so many projects and had to delegate more, but he ultimately was still in charge of everything that has been made in the MCU and had some degree of control of it all.

Going forward, the idea is that they will try to decrease the amount of content so he will spend more time with each project. but that's far different from the idea that he left and is returning.

Delegating more and not being in control of every step of the development process as he previously had been while working on outside projects meets my definition of “stepping back.” Iger’s big solution to Marvel’s “problem” was to return Feige to direct oversight of every step.

 

[erasure fan1]

Its not as fringe as you think, you're discounting how main stream its really become over the last decade.

I wonder what would happen if you went around asking random people, how many movies have you not seen because overlord dvd said Disney is trash? I'm guessing you could go days or weeks before anyone even knows who he is.

We are so entrenched in Disney we see EVERYTHING good or bad related to Disney on our feeds. No one, I repeat no one, thinks that there aren't people going after Disney. The issue comes down to weather you think it has caused Disney to lose at the box office. Or that these grifters are just a vocal minority of blow hards who really don't have the reach some think.

Neither side will ever agree with the other. That's just the way it will always be.