Sirwalterraleigh
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The conversation never happens if you are convinced everything is evil…Thank you for proving my point. Conversation over.
There’s always bugs bunny and six flags where the evil hate mongers don’t go…
The conversation never happens if you are convinced everything is evil…Thank you for proving my point. Conversation over.
Not everyone or everything is evil, no one made such a claim or even tried to convey it.The conversation never happens if you are convinced everything is evil…
There’s always bugs bunny and six flags where the evil hate mongers don’t go…
I understand that feeling…Not everyone or everything is evil, no one made such a claim or even tried to convey it.
But to ignore that there is a section of the population that for whatever reason is upset with Disney, and not due to quality, is sticking your head in the sand. And its more than just "4 guys in their mom's basement" as you like to joke. Not everything comes down to just quality issues.
Hopefully 2024 ends with Disney on a positive note and people will be ready to have real conversations about this topic.
Its not as fringe as you think, you're discounting how main stream its really become over the last decade. I can't say more otherwise that will get into a topic that we're not allowed to talk about on this site.I understand that feeling…
I just don’t believe you can by default equate failure with sabotage due to bigotry.
There is some of that…but it’s fringe.
What this seems to be is disappointment that the “progress” cannot be accelerated. But if it could be decreed they call it “completion”…not progress which implies time.
But the little mermaid, haunted mansion and marvels were not “progress”…it’s just crap from a company with terrible management. Sometimes a cake is just a cake.
There’s no point in engaging. He doesn’t argue in good faith.Ok, so if there is no need to defend, then there is no need to bash things either as you do. If the market/audience decides we got nothing to talk about. These forums are going to get very quiet soon enough. So I expect no longer seeing you post here anymore then since this was your idea.
Delegating more and not being in control of every step of the development process as he previously had been while working on outside projects meets my definition of “stepping back.” Iger’s big solution to Marvel’s “problem” was to return Feige to direct oversight of every step.Yeah, I'm curious too because I follow the MCU a decent bit and have never seen that Feige "stepped back" or anything of the sort. The closest I've seen was that he was stretched thin with so many projects and had to delegate more, but he ultimately was still in charge of everything that has been made in the MCU and had some degree of control of it all.
Going forward, the idea is that they will try to decrease the amount of content so he will spend more time with each project. but that's far different from the idea that he left and is returning.
I wonder what would happen if you went around asking random people, how many movies have you not seen because overlord dvd said Disney is trash? I'm guessing you could go days or weeks before anyone even knows who he is.Its not as fringe as you think, you're discounting how main stream its really become over the last decade.
I think you’re taking the bait and mistaking a very LOUD reactionary minority for 50%Its not as fringe as you think, you're discounting how main stream its really become over the last decade. I can't say more otherwise that will get into a topic that we're not allowed to talk about on this site.
As for the rest, I'm not disappointed at all in how things have progressed. Things take time and I understand that. Do I wish some things would progress faster, of course. But that is not how things in society necessarily move, they can, but not always.
I will disagree with you on what you call "crap". If some such as yourself didn't like it, I'm cool with that as that is just a matter of personal taste. Do I consider it was 100% top tier quality work, no. But I'm sorry I don't consider it "crap" either.
If you mean I’ve run out of tolerance for veiled accusations of bigotry from strangers who know nothing about their targets…There’s no point in engaging. He doesn’t argue in good faith.
The Numbers has an estimate on overseas box office for Inside Out 2, which has already opened in all countries except two; Japan waits until August 1st, and Finland waits until July 17th
Internationally, the film only opened in 60 percent of the marketplace this weekend. It broke records across Latin America, where it secured the second-biggest opening of all time behind Marvel and Disney’s Avengers: Endgame and opened to $30.2 million in Mexico alone.
Social factors, eg not wanting to miss out on the water cooler. Fear of spoilers. Shared interest with friends or family.How do you guys think general audiences decide which movies to see in the theater and which ones to skip?
Yeah, it's not like the most prominent governor in America waged a highly publicized war on Disney, attacking them as a threat to all that is good and decent. And it's not like the governor was backed by by the most widely read writers on Facebook, the most widely viewed news networks, the most widely watched YouTube channels. And its not like that attack was part of an assault on educational establishments that has dominated American discourse for years.I wonder what would happen if you went around asking random people, how many movies have you not seen because overlord dvd said Disney is trash? I'm guessing you could go days or weeks before anyone even knows who he is.
We are so entrenched in Disney we see EVERYTHING good or bad related to Disney on our feeds. No one, I repeat no one, thinks that there aren't people going after Disney. The issue comes down to weather you think it has caused Disney to lose at the box office. Or that these grifters are just a vocal minority of blow hards who really don't have the reach some think.
Neither side will ever agree with the other. That's just the way it will always be.
Yeah, it's not like the most prominent governor in America waged a highly publicized war on Disney, attacking them as a threat to all that is good and decent. And it's not like the governor was backed by by the most widely read writers on Facebook, the most widely viewed news networks, the most widely watched YouTube channels. And its not like that attack was part of an assault on educational establishments that has dominated American discourse for years.
Look, disliking Disney's recent output doesn't associate you with the disgusting folks pushing the hate campaign. Disliking that output is completely reasonable. But denying the existence of a campaign that has been one of the major media stories of the last several years because you find its existence inconvenient makes you, at best, disingenuous.
It actually only opened in 60% of markets overseas. Besides Japan, other major markets it hasn't opened in include France, Italy, Spain, Brazil, and China.
Not everything comes down to some clickbait tuber that very few heard of, you really need to get past that.I wonder what would happen if you went around asking random people, how many movies have you not seen because overlord dvd said Disney is trash? I'm guessing you could go days or weeks before anyone even knows who he is.
We are so entrenched in Disney we see EVERYTHING good or bad related to Disney on our feeds. No one, I repeat no one, thinks that there aren't people going after Disney. The issue comes down to weather you think it has caused Disney to lose at the box office. Or that these grifters are just a vocal minority of blow hards who really don't have the reach some think.
Neither side will ever agree with the other. That's just the way it will always be.
Nope, not talking about just a vocal minority, though they have an affect too and cause a feedback loop unto themselves.I think you’re taking the bait and mistaking a very LOUD reactionary minority for 50%
It is not close to 50%…there is an apathetic 50% of everyone who largely stays quiet and doesn’t live their lives like buffoons
I think that is part of it, but not as large as we like to think. I think the social media effect has a larger impact on what sways the conversation and the box office, and yes that can also be influenced by whatever candidate one follows.Yeah, it's not like the most prominent governor in America waged a highly publicized war on Disney, attacking them as a threat to all that is good and decent. And it's not like the governor was backed by by the most widely read writers on Facebook, the most widely viewed news networks, the most widely watched YouTube channels. And its not like that attack was part of an assault on educational establishments that has dominated American discourse for years.
Look, disliking Disney's recent output doesn't associate you with the disgusting folks pushing the hate campaign. Disliking that output is completely reasonable. But denying the existence of a campaign that has been one of the major media stories of the last several years because you find its existence inconvenient makes you, at best, disingenuous.
Social media feeds.How do you guys think general audiences decide which movies to see in the theater and which ones to skip?
OTOH, California’s Gov is not attacking DL, and from what I understand, DL is doing fine.I think that is part of it, but not as large as we like to think. I think the social media effect has a larger impact on what sways the conversation and the box office, and yes that can also be influenced by whatever candidate one follows.
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