Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Willmark]

Oh I thought you were referring to a Bears game. They meet everyone’s definition of crappy.

Or Carolina vs anyone.

 

[BuddyThomas]

The Oscars to Viewers Everywhere: “We Are So Back”

www.theringer.com

 

[Willmark]

@Willmark tends not to just say things for the sake of it, which is why I asked him specifically and not certain other posters who have a long track record of clairvoyant criticism.

I don’t particularly have strong feelings one way or the other about the Oscars per se, if people like them that’s entirely up to them.

It’s fairly undeniable that their cultural significance has plummeted along with almost any other award show.

I’m pointing out there is a “cultural divide” on them with prior statements of folks claiming it was #2 in viewership. That is still interesting to me because had that been correct, the Oscars would be the second most watched event outside of the Super Bowl.

Award shows in general (even sports ones)
are something that is perplexing at least to me. I suppose it’s the equivalent (using that term loosely) to say getting inducted into a Hall of Fame for a particular sport. I don’t personally see that, but could see that some (not saying you) could frame it that way.

 

[brideck]

This provides some relevant data showing that box-office bumps are now being superseded by steaming bumps:

The Oscar box office bump is shrinking

The winner of the best picture award at this year's Oscars may not get a big box office bump in this streaming-dominated landscape.

www.cnbc.com

Either way, the Oscars continue to shape audience interest and demand.

To this point, I was on a flight today and, other than the woman next to me watching the recent Meg Ryan/David Duchovny rom-com, all of the screens I could see in seats nearby were watching Best Picture nominees (Oppenheimer, Barbie, The Holdovers, Anatomy of a Fall). This shows interest, even though it only adds up financially to whatever $ Delta pays to have movies on their in-flight service.

For some bizarre reason, Poor Things wasn't available to watch. The airline edit of it would be a terrible thing to behold.

 

[Disney Irish]

To this point, I was on a flight today and, other than the woman next to me watching the recent Meg Ryan/David Duchovny rom-com, all of the screens I could see in seats nearby were watching Best Picture nominees (Oppenheimer, Barbie, The Holdovers, Anatomy of a Fall). This shows interest, even though it only adds up financially to whatever $ Delta pays to have movies on their in-flight service.

For some bizarre reason, Poor Things wasn't available to watch. The airline edit of it would be a terrible thing to behold.

This is why you need to bring your own device and just stream on Delta's free Wifi.

 

[DKampy]

To this point, I was on a flight today and, other than the woman next to me watching the recent Meg Ryan/David Duchovny rom-com, all of the screens I could see in seats nearby were watching Best Picture nominees (Oppenheimer, Barbie, The Holdovers, Anatomy of a Fall). This shows interest, even though it only adds up financially to whatever $ Delta pays to have movies on their in-flight service.

For some bizarre reason, Poor Things wasn't available to watch. The airline edit of it would be a terrible thing to behold.

My wife watched that Meg Ryan rom-com….she told me not to bother… said it was awful

I actually never knew there were Delta edits… I always fly Delta… And I have felt awkward when certain scenes popped up on a film I was watching… with not knowing if the person next to me saw it or how they would feel about such a scene

 

[BuddyThomas]

My wife watched that Meg Ryan rom-com….she told me not to bother… said it was awful

It’s no When Harry Met Sally, that’s for sure.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Has anyone seen Anatomy of a Fall or The Zone of Interest yet?

 

[DKampy]

Has anyone seen Anatomy of a Fall or The Zone of Interest yet?

I have not seen Zone of Interest… I rented Anatomy of a Fall a couple of weeks ago… I Liked it and I thought the lead actress deserved the nomination… Though Emma deserved the win

 

[brideck]

My wife watched that Meg Ryan rom-com….she told me not to bother… said it was awful

I actually never knew there were Delta edits… I always fly Delta… And I have felt awkward when certain scenes popped up on a film I was watching… with not knowing if the person next to me saw it or how they would feel about such a scene

I watched Hereditary on a flight once (don't worry I had already seen it) and there was a lot of extra shadow to block out some of the nudity and some stuff was just plain cut out of the movie. It would have been very confusing had I not seen it before.

 

[brideck]

Has anyone seen Anatomy of a Fall or The Zone of Interest yet?

We completed the death race Sunday morning once Netflix got To Kill a Tiger up, so yes to both.

Zone of Interest is pretty awesome, but very slow if that's a potential problem. Well deserved win for Sound -- you don't see anything of Auschwitz really, you just... hear it. The juxtaposition's the thing.

Anatomy of a Fall is pretty gripping. It's in my spouse's top 5 of the year. Everyone is fantastic in it, with special mention to the son and his dog.

 

[Bullseye1967]

Has anyone seen Anatomy of a Fall or The Zone of Interest yet?

We watched Anatomy of a fall on Prime video and thought it was a good movie.

 

[Ghost93]

Has anyone seen Anatomy of a Fall or The Zone of Interest yet?

The Zone of Interest is a very experimental movie and won't be for everyone, but I thought it was one of the most powerful movies from last year. It stuck with me long after I left the theater and made me think more than any of the other Best Picture nominees.

It's definitely a movie that should be seen in theaters as the sound is vital to the overall film in a way that might lose its effect at home. It 's also a movie you need to completely give yourself over to, without the temptation to break the tension by checking your phone.

 

[Farerb]

Does it really matter how many people watch the Oscars? Are posters here really denying that a film gains in status and visibility after it wins an Academy Award in a major category?

In my opinion, most people wouldn't be able to tell you what films won Best Picture in the last 10 years more or less.

 

[brideck]

The Zone of Interest is a very experimental movie and won't be for everyone, but I thought it was one of the most powerful movies from last year. It stuck with me long after I left the theater and made me think more than any of the other Best Picture nominees.

It's definitely a movie that should be seen in theaters as the sound is vital to the overall film in a way that might lose its effect at home. It 's also a movie you need to completely give yourself over to, without the temptation to break the tension by checking your phone.

I read that they actually thought about this and have a unique sound mix for home/streaming releases. I'm not sure what that entails, but it seems as though they're trying to give everyone the best possible experience for their environment.

Having said that, yes, people should absolutely go catch it in theaters while it's still there.

 

[brideck]

In my opinion, most people wouldn't be able to tell you what films won Best Picture in the last 10 years more or less.

This is true of virtually anything, though. Quick: What are the last 10 #1 singles on the year-end Billboard charts? What was the highest grossing movie each year over the last 10 years? Who won the NCAA tournament each of the last 10 years?

If you're into a thing, you'd probably know 5+ of these. If you're not, you won't have a clue. I am not convinced that this is particularly different from the way it's always been.

The argument isn't that people will remember what won Best Picture 5 or 10 years from now, but that they're currently aware and might seek out that movie in the near-term. I couldn't begin to tell you what drives long-tail (we're talking years of long-tail) viewing other than the obvious zeitgeist films.

 

[Farerb]

This is true of virtually anything, though. Quick: What are the last 10 #1 singles on the year-end Billboard charts? What was the highest grossing movie each year over the last 10 years? Who won the NCAA tournament each of the last 10 years?

If you're into a thing, you'd probably know 5+ of these. If you're not, you won't have a clue. I am not convinced that this is particularly different from the way it's always been.

My point is that awards don't necessarily elevates a film's status. No one cares about CODA, no one remembers it.

 

[brideck]

My point is that awards don't necessarily elevates a film's status. No one cares about CODA, no one remembers it.

Believe it or not, there are people who years down the road will seek it out and watch it because it won a major award. That obviously won't ever mean that millions of people are watching it at any given time, but it does mean that it will have an evergreen long-tail of viewers.

 

[LittleBuford]

In my opinion, most people wouldn't be able to tell you what films won Best Picture in the last 10 years more or less.

It’s not my argument that they would (nor do I think most people would be able to name the Best Picture winners from before ten years ago). Rather, I’m saying that some of us looking for a film to watch (whether at the cinema or at home) are influenced in our decision by the words “Academy Award-nominated” or “Academy Award winner”. The link I shared earlier shows that I’m not the only one who assigns some weight to whether a movie has earned an Oscar (nomination).

 

[Ayla]

I believe the point is that the Oscars biggest cultural impact is far behind it at this point. And the viewership declines of the past decade-plus is very clear. There was this suggestion that movies would get a noticeable box office bump after winning a statue at the Oscars, as if it was still 1978 or 1998 when it is in fact 2024.

For those of us old enough to remember when the Oscar's was truly Must See TV! and a big annual social event, it seems highly unlikely that movies still get big box office bumps when a lady wins Best Actress or something gets Best Director in 2024.

The times have changed, and they are leaving the Oscars importance back in the 20th century.

The Oscars used to be Only See TV. There weren't a hundred other options to watch at the same time.