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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

DKampy

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To this point, I was on a flight today and, other than the woman next to me watching the recent Meg Ryan/David Duchovny rom-com, all of the screens I could see in seats nearby were watching Best Picture nominees (Oppenheimer, Barbie, The Holdovers, Anatomy of a Fall). This shows interest, even though it only adds up financially to whatever $ Delta pays to have movies on their in-flight service.

For some bizarre reason, Poor Things wasn't available to watch. The airline edit of it would be a terrible thing to behold.
My wife watched that Meg Ryan rom-com….she told me not to bother… said it was awful

I actually never knew there were Delta edits… I always fly Delta… And I have felt awkward when certain scenes popped up on a film I was watching… with not knowing if the person next to me saw it or how they would feel about such a scene
 

brideck

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My wife watched that Meg Ryan rom-com….she told me not to bother… said it was awful

I actually never knew there were Delta edits… I always fly Delta… And I have felt awkward when certain scenes popped up on a film I was watching… with not knowing if the person next to me saw it or how they would feel about such a scene

I watched Hereditary on a flight once (don't worry I had already seen it) and there was a lot of extra shadow to block out some of the nudity and some stuff was just plain cut out of the movie. It would have been very confusing had I not seen it before.
 

brideck

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Has anyone seen Anatomy of a Fall or The Zone of Interest yet?

We completed the death race Sunday morning once Netflix got To Kill a Tiger up, so yes to both.

Zone of Interest is pretty awesome, but very slow if that's a potential problem. Well deserved win for Sound -- you don't see anything of Auschwitz really, you just... hear it. The juxtaposition's the thing.

Anatomy of a Fall is pretty gripping. It's in my spouse's top 5 of the year. Everyone is fantastic in it, with special mention to the son and his dog.
 

Ghost93

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Has anyone seen Anatomy of a Fall or The Zone of Interest yet?
The Zone of Interest is a very experimental movie and won't be for everyone, but I thought it was one of the most powerful movies from last year. It stuck with me long after I left the theater and made me think more than any of the other Best Picture nominees.

It's definitely a movie that should be seen in theaters as the sound is vital to the overall film in a way that might lose its effect at home. It 's also a movie you need to completely give yourself over to, without the temptation to break the tension by checking your phone.
 
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brideck

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The Zone of Interest is a very experimental movie and won't be for everyone, but I thought it was one of the most powerful movies from last year. It stuck with me long after I left the theater and made me think more than any of the other Best Picture nominees.

It's definitely a movie that should be seen in theaters as the sound is vital to the overall film in a way that might lose its effect at home. It 's also a movie you need to completely give yourself over to, without the temptation to break the tension by checking your phone.

I read that they actually thought about this and have a unique sound mix for home/streaming releases. I'm not sure what that entails, but it seems as though they're trying to give everyone the best possible experience for their environment.

Having said that, yes, people should absolutely go catch it in theaters while it's still there.
 

brideck

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In my opinion, most people wouldn't be able to tell you what films won Best Picture in the last 10 years more or less.

This is true of virtually anything, though. Quick: What are the last 10 #1 singles on the year-end Billboard charts? What was the highest grossing movie each year over the last 10 years? Who won the NCAA tournament each of the last 10 years?

If you're into a thing, you'd probably know 5+ of these. If you're not, you won't have a clue. I am not convinced that this is particularly different from the way it's always been.

The argument isn't that people will remember what won Best Picture 5 or 10 years from now, but that they're currently aware and might seek out that movie in the near-term. I couldn't begin to tell you what drives long-tail (we're talking years of long-tail) viewing other than the obvious zeitgeist films.
 

Farerb

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This is true of virtually anything, though. Quick: What are the last 10 #1 singles on the year-end Billboard charts? What was the highest grossing movie each year over the last 10 years? Who won the NCAA tournament each of the last 10 years?

If you're into a thing, you'd probably know 5+ of these. If you're not, you won't have a clue. I am not convinced that this is particularly different from the way it's always been.
My point is that awards don't necessarily elevates a film's status. No one cares about CODA, no one remembers it.
 

brideck

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My point is that awards don't necessarily elevates a film's status. No one cares about CODA, no one remembers it.

Believe it or not, there are people who years down the road will seek it out and watch it because it won a major award. That obviously won't ever mean that millions of people are watching it at any given time, but it does mean that it will have an evergreen long-tail of viewers.
 

LittleBuford

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In my opinion, most people wouldn't be able to tell you what films won Best Picture in the last 10 years more or less.
It’s not my argument that they would (nor do I think most people would be able to name the Best Picture winners from before ten years ago). Rather, I’m saying that some of us looking for a film to watch (whether at the cinema or at home) are influenced in our decision by the words “Academy Award-nominated” or “Academy Award winner”. The link I shared earlier shows that I’m not the only one who assigns some weight to whether a movie has earned an Oscar (nomination).
 

Ayla

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I believe the point is that the Oscars biggest cultural impact is far behind it at this point. And the viewership declines of the past decade-plus is very clear. There was this suggestion that movies would get a noticeable box office bump after winning a statue at the Oscars, as if it was still 1978 or 1998 when it is in fact 2024.

For those of us old enough to remember when the Oscar's was truly Must See TV! and a big annual social event, it seems highly unlikely that movies still get big box office bumps when a lady wins Best Actress or something gets Best Director in 2024.

The times have changed, and they are leaving the Oscars importance back in the 20th century.
The Oscars used to be Only See TV. There weren't a hundred other options to watch at the same time.
 

celluloid

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Believe it or not, there are people who years down the road will seek it out and watch it because it won a major award. That obviously won't ever mean that millions of people are watching it at any given time, but it does mean that it will have an evergreen long-tail of viewers.

While quality will out, there are thousands of Oscar Film and award show noms and winners over the years that are completely forgotten. Even the greatest don't last evergreen.
There is more content created now than ever before. The way of the world. Even with varying qualities, there is more consumed and more found to be great by popular culture and sometimes more disposable.

Earthquake is seen now as the Disaster era scholock and it won Oscars, had a theme park attraction and now people don't even connect the tram scene in california's theme park loosely based on it. And that is a phenom of a movie with the best A listing actors of its time, in its most popular genre with Academy Award wins.


With very rare exception, lasting forever in popular culture is rarely more than 20 years. Mark Twain is sometimes attributed to a quote about works lasting forever, and by forever he means 20 years.
 

TP2000

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The Oscars used to be Only See TV. There weren't a hundred other options to watch at the same time.

Agreed. But that's not a recent factor. But that was definitely a factor in the 1960's to early 1980's.

By the time the Oscars hit 55 Million viewers in 1998 because of Titanic, the entire country had cable TV with a few hundred channels and a VHS library with a VCR or two in the home.

The general viewership trend in the 2000's was already headed downward, until the ratings fell off a cliff in 2014 and are still headed downward. Even when you back out the Covid blip of 2021 and 2022, the Oscars trendline is very clear. :(
 

TP2000

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Earthquake is seen now as the Disaster era scholock and it won Oscars,

That's hysterical! If I had once known that, I'd long since forgotten. Do I dare Google up which Oscars that Earthquake won in 1974?.... Here I go....

Oh, phew! It was nominated for 5 Oscars, and won 2, but all for technical stuff like Film Editing and Sound Mixing. I was honestly afraid that Charlton Heston won the Best Actor award for driving that custom Chevy Blazer through the wrecked streets of LA, or Walter Mathau won Best Supporting Actor for staying upright on his barstool throughout the Big One. 🤣

For the kids out there, watch Earthquake. It's a hysterical example of 1970's Disaster Movie shlock. And it's star-studded.
 

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