Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[celluloid]

Also to the point on the Oppenheimer and The Holdovers(I thought both movies were great)bump… that will happen when you put movies back in theaters Academy Awards week… Poor Things never left theaters

How does that make a difference. The others have been at home video options longer?
Wouldn't that create a bigger bump form it with Hulu just now being available last week and if you don't have Hulu you can only catch it in theaters?

Oppenheimer was still playing at screens as well so not really sure the point.

We are really reaching now. It is ok to admit that the bump did not happen at the same rate as others for The Box Office. Like percentage wise, and it has dropped in theater count.


Some people will claim for months that audience have changed, the existence of people going to thesters are dying, and the box office numbers are not that important to studios anymore, yet studios are pushing to get their films in theaters before they stream on their services.

You can't keep up with this because they change and justify things.

I imagine by the weekend there is a good chance that Oppenheimer will be above Poor Things in theaters or right below it on the charts due to word of mouth and awareness of it again as the more obvious top two hits hold their spots this weekend until Ghostbusters is a hit for Sont next weekend.

Migration amazingly still holds at the 6/7 place. And it was not a great movie to me but amazing to see Illumination somehow have yet another avoidance of misfire.

 

[celluloid]

Wow… so you know Emma Stone personally… she told you what she was thinking…

If it was Robert Downy Jr or Da’vine Joy Randolph sure… but Emma Stone was less of a sure thing… it was the most up in the air acting category between her and Lily Gladstone… who seemed to have the momentum…and I was leaning towards it being Lily after her SAG win

Not sure what Emily Blunt has to do with anything… although I am really looking forward to The Fall Guy after the early stellar reviews that is getting

It being a toss up and a performers level of shock to win are not mutually exclusive things.

 

[DKampy]

It being a toss up and a performers level of shock to win are not mutually exclusive things.

Right I don’t think it is either… for example I actually think Da’vine showed some real emotional shock when she won as well… I mean they just won the biggest award in show business… but apparently people know what they are thinking

 

[DKampy]

How does that make a difference. The others have been at home video options longer?

Wouldn't that create a bigger bump form it with Hulu just now being available last week and if you don't have Hulu you can only catch it in theaters?

Oppenheimer was still playing at screens as well so not really sure the point.

We are really reaching now. It is ok to admit that the bump did not happen at the same rate as others for The Box Office. Like percentage wise, and it has dropped in theater count.


Some people will claim for months that audience have changed, the existence of people going to thesters are dying, and the box office numbers are not that important to studios anymore, yet studios are pushing to get their films in theaters before they stream on their services.

You can't keep up with this because they change and justify things.

I imagine by the weekend there is a good chance that Oppenheimer will be above Poor Things in theaters or right below it on the charts due to word of mouth and awareness of it again as the more obvious top two hits hold their spots this weekend until Ghostbusters is a hit for Sont next weekend.

Migration amazingly still holds at the 6/7 place. And it was not a great movie to me but amazing to see Illumination somehow have yet another avoidance of misfire.

right… I already said Oppenheimer should have the biggest bump… winning best film at the Oscars will do that for you… To say Poor Things is not receiving a bump is wrong… the amount of people on here who said they watched Poor Things for their first time now that it is on Hulu on these forums alone show that

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Wow… so you know Emma Stone personally… she told you what she was thinking…

If it was Robert Downy Jr or Da’vine Joy Randolph sure… but Emma Stone was less of a sure thing… it was the most up in the air acting category between her and Lily Gladstone… who seemed to have the momentum…and I was leaning towards it being Lily after her SAG win

Not sure what Emily Blunt has to do with anything… although I am really looking forward to The Fall Guy after the early stellar reviews that is getting

Emma stone was given about a 50/50 chance…though I didn’t think she would win.

Shock? No….it was not shocking

Her speech was great beyond that though.

And stop mining for outrage…there’s none to find. Except the rejection of all
The Disney movies last year. That still happened.

And since several here knew “Halle” personally…who says I can’t hang out with Ems at Starbucks? ️

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Emma Stone won because she acted in a movie that was deemed good enough to win several awards. The Oscars will always put weight on that, because she contributed to the film's success and/or more people noticed it.

It doesn't mean she was better or worse than Lily Gladstone. It's subjective to choose between several performances anyway, so there's no "correct" winner.

Same as last year. Actress was pretty much between Jamie Lee Curtis and Angela Bassett. Two different performances that were great in their own way, but the person in the best picture of the year is more likely to win over the person in the Marvel movie.

Emma's win was deserved. An alternate choice would have been deserved as well. No one should take these awards too seriously.

 

[celluloid]

right… I already said Oppenheimer should have the biggest bump… winning best film at the Oscars will do that for you… To say Poor Things is not receiving a bump is wrong… the amount of people on here who said they watched Poor Things for their first time now that it is on Hulu on these forums alone show that

You left out The Holdovers.
A Hulu bump is not a theatrical box office bump.

So which is it? People saw movies that have been out of theaters for longer are seeing them now that they are back in after award recognition?

Or they saw movies on streaming services more after award buzz?
The answer is of course both, also the fact that you have to admit Poor Things is brand new to Hulu...so no, it does not have to be award bump correlated. It has only been on Hulu for a week.

The other Oscar bumps happened to bump both streaming and box office.

It did not receive the theatrical bump others here were saying award season would.

 

[Disney Irish]

You left out The Holdovers.
A Hulu bump is not a theatrical box office bump.

So which is it? People saw movies that have been out of theaters for longer are seeing them now that they are back in after award recognition?

Or they saw movies on streaming services more after award buzz?
The answer is of course both, also the fact that you have to admit Poor Things is brand new to Hulu...so no, it does not have to be award bump correlated. It has only been on Hulu for a week.

The other Oscar bumps happened to bump both streaming and box office.

It did not receive the theatrical bump others here were saying award season would.

Why can't all things be true....

Poor Things has received a bump, even if its just a slight bump in theaters (it also increased theaters just ahead of the Oscars).
Poor Things is now on streaming and will get more views there as well both for being new to streaming and for being an award winning movie.

All things can be true at once without anyone being wrong here.

 

[TalkingHead]

So Poor Things won Oscars, made money, and boosted Searchlight’s brand. What’s the issue?

 

[celluloid]

Why can't all things be true....

Poor Things has received a bump, even if its just a slight bump in theaters (it also increased theaters just ahead of the Oscars).
Poor Things is now on streaming and will get more views there as well both for being new to streaming and for being an award winning movie.

All things can be true at once without anyone being wrong here.

That was my point. The difference is the bigger box office bump is theatrically and a studio will still want that when it comes to post Oscar benefit versus a week of streaming no matter how lucrative you think Hulu with ads is.

No issue. Just others predictions on it receiving a bump theatrically have been way off, as it never really got one.

 

[Disney Irish]

So Poor Things won Oscars, made money, and boosted Searchlight’s brand. What’s the issue?

Exactly, but some feel the need to bash it for whatever reason.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So Poor Things won Oscars, made money, and boosted Searchlight’s brand. What’s the issue?

Is there one?

I didn’t care for it…but thought it was different and that’s a good thing. And since it wasn’t a $500 mil outlay that bombed…that’s a good thing.

In that note…I think the best speech was cord Jefferson. Really good and rubbing bad studios nose in it.

Ahem

 

[Disney Irish]

That was my point. The difference is the bigger box office bump is theatrically and a studio will still want that when it comes to post Oscar benefit versus a week of streaming no matter how lucrative you think Hulu with ads is.

Studios want all revenue from all distribution methods post-Oscar win. To single out theatrical as being the only revenue stream they care about for a post-Oscar win is just not looking at the landscape.

 

[celluloid]

Studios want all revenue from all distribution methods post-Oscar win. To single out theatrical as being the only revenue stream they care about for a post-Oscar win is just not looking at the landscape.

Yes. They want as many as possible. The other films got more of each. Theatrical pulls more weight for revenue with good playing still. The nature of the business still.

 

[celluloid]

Is there one?

I didn’t care for it…but thought it was different and that’s a good thing. And since it wasn’t a $500 mil outlay that bombed…that’s a good thing.

In that note…I think the best speech was cord Jefferson. Really good and rubbing bad studios nose in it.

Ahem

That is a good speech bit. My favorite was when Oppenheimer won for its Cinematographer, the most respected film of the event and he said aspiring filmmakers should try shooting movies on this thing called celluloid.

 

[DKampy]

You left out The Holdovers.
A Hulu bump is not a theatrical box office bump.

So which is it? People saw movies that have been out of theaters for longer are seeing them now that they are back in after award recognition?

Or they saw movies on streaming services more after award buzz?
The answer is of course both, also the fact that you have to admit Poor Things is brand new to Hulu...so no, it does not have to be award bump correlated. It has only been on Hulu for a week.

The other Oscar bumps happened to bump both streaming and box office.

It did not receive the theatrical bump others here were saying award season would.

Yeah… the holdovers got a bump due to it being added to theaters for Oscar week… some people went to see it as they noticed it got some Academy Award nomination and it is not on any streaming service as of yet… but it still only made a whopping 12.00 average per theater yesterday… I still hope it makes more as it is a great movie and I was disappointed when it was pulled from theaters for VOD… I felt they left money on the table during the holidays

I had also hoped Poor Things would not of gone to streaming till after the Academy Awards… I get it… Disney was looking for synergy… have an awards favorite on your streaming service the weekend of the Oscars and it might even boost the Academy Awards ratings which is airing on your network… but Poor things is doing as well(and it is doing well)on Hulu because of it’s awards recognition

 

[celluloid]

Yeah… the holdovers got a bump due to it being added to theaters for Oscar week… some people went to see it as they noticed it got some Academy Award nomination and it is not on any streaming service as of yet… but it still only made a whopping 12.00 average per theater yesterday… I still hope it makes more as it is a great movie and I was disappointed when it was pulled from theaters for VOD… I felt they left money on the table during the holidays

Not true. It was on Peacock for a long while and got taken off just recently.
Which points out another weird move by Disney to rush because they feared no theatrical bump as the rest of your post points out.

More odd desperation from Bob not willing to take risks.

 

[Disney Irish]

Yes. They want as many as possible. The other films got more of each. Theatrical pulls more weight for revenue with good playing still. The nature of the business still.

There is a reason why Disney released Poor Things to streaming a week before Oscars instead of a week after. Its so they could get all the revenue from ads by viewers who saw it in the run up to the Oscars.

 

[celluloid]

There is a reason why Disney released Poor Things to streaming a week before Oscars instead of a week after. Its so they could get all the revenue from ads by viewers who saw it in the run up to the Oscars.

See above, becuase its theatrical bump was not going to be a likely thing. You are just confirming the point. Ha. Only some here think being able to stream hurt it theatrically. It was not going to likely get the bump people were claiming would happen either way. You are just repeating that Disney wants to make any money they can, of course.

 

[DKampy]

Not true. It was on Peacock for a long while and got taken off just recently.
Which points out another weird move by Disney to rush because they feared no theatrical bump as the rest of your post points out.

More odd desperation from Bob not willing to take risks.

Ahhh… I knew Oppenheimer was on peacock but was not aware of The Holdovers… but they again like the majority of the people I don’t subscribe to Peacock