Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

celluloid

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I asked for your input. You gave it. I thanked you for it, but dismissed it because your advice seemed to amount to, "Don't word tings the way you do," and also sounded to me a bit like, "word things the way I do." So I tried to clearly say, "that's not how I want to engage here."


You said you try and "encourage" people to respond. Your post did not do that. And when asked to advise on tatics would work better to encourage a response to your postingI explained why with bold points on what others would likely find rude in your posts. I said what to perhaps omit or rephrase, not what to say like I do. Not sure how you said it would emulate how I post. When you start or finish a post with someone worded something badly or wording something that can be interpreted as they are not a fan, or beginning a number of those posts with hmmmm, they don't really want to interact with you. It is not encouraging. You will find not all, but others feel this way about your postings.

Can you cite where I said "Say it like me?"

Your actions Caleb, are very clear. I even stated it may not be intentional, but it is very evident that it is discouraging. You asked for advice. Clear examples were given. You did not like the advice.
Don't post like anyone else, just do better for yourself if your goal is to encourage others to respond with their "why?" And if you don't care, that is of course fine too, but you asked.

It was solicited. I never told you how to word things like me.

But now, pages later, after back on kind of a box office topic, we must all figure to bust someone's chops. You didn't take the advice, cool. Many people don't take advice they ask for, and typically, without making an insulting statement about it.
 
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MickeyMouse10

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Disney has to get back to satisfying the majority of their customers. Most people just want to watch Great movies and shows. That's all. We don't care about whatever outside stuff they want to preach about on their soapbox. It's obviously hurting them at the box office.

God knows why they want to keep playing the same old broken record. If anything it's only making people resent them even more. Plus if you keep hiring people that want to talk more about themselves and their movement, rather than their movie than you will keep failing. Meanwhile most of us will just keep laughing at you and Youtubers will get rich off your expense.
 
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Tony the Tigger

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Disney has to get back to satisfying the majority of their customers. Most people just want to watch Great movies and shows. That's all. We don't care about whatever outside stuff they want to preach about on their soapbox. It's obviously hurt them at the box office.

God knows why they want to keep playing the same old broken record. If anything it's only making people resent them even more. Plus if you keep hiring people that want to talk more about themselves and their movement, rather than their movie than you will keep failing. Meanwhile most of us will just keep laughing at you and Youtubers will get rich off your expense.
Wait, so including a non straight white character is preaching now? If not, remind me where the preaching was?
 

DKampy

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Disney has to get back to satisfying the majority of their customers. Most people just want to watch Great movies and shows. That's all. We don't care about whatever outside stuff they want to preach about on their soapbox. It's obviously hurt them at the box office.
Please enlighten me… what messages is Disney preaching… cause what people are complaing about is one same sex kiss in Lightyear, a gay crush that took at most 10 minutes of screen time in strange World, casting a Pakistan actress in the marvels, and casting a black Ariel… none of that seems preachy… it’s just people who exist in the real world
 

CinematicFusion

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Please enlighten me… what messages is Disney preaching… cause what people are complaing about is one same sex kiss in Lightyear, a gay crush that took at most 10 minutes of screen time in strange World, casting a Pakistan actress in the marvels, and casting a black Ariel… none of that seems preachy… it’s just people who exist in the real world
You’ve got a point there. I think the real question we should be asking is why aren’t people going to see the latest Disney movies? Maybe it’s not just about things like a same-sex kiss or who they cast, but more about the stories themselves. If the plot’s just okay or doesn’t grab you, or if the characters don’t resonate with you, then all the inclusive stuff won’t matter much. Storytelling and characters that really speak to you – that’s what pulls people in.
 

Tony the Tigger

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Disney has to get back to satisfying the majority of their customers. Most people just want to watch Great movies and shows. That's all. We don't care about whatever outside stuff they want to preach about on their soapbox. It's obviously hurt them at the box office.

God knows why they want to keep playing the same old broken record. If anything it's only making people resent them even more. Plus if you keep hiring people that want to talk more about themselves and their movement, rather than their movie than you will keep failing. Meanwhile most of us will just keep laughing at you and Youtubers will get rich off your expense.

Wait, so including a non straight white character is preaching now? If not, remind me where the preaching was?

Nope, openly putting down someone based on how they look or what they are... is wrong. No matter what side of the fence they're on.

You’ve lost me. No idea what you are talking about.

It goes both ways. You can't be openly awful to people just based on them being a male or a woman.
I literally do not understand. Unless I am missing something from some of the ignored posts I cannot see, it seems like you are not following the thread(?)
 

MrPromey

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No. I keep checking, but the Regal I have Unlimited to is only 14 screens. The AMC an hour drive from me is not playing it either.
it sounds like the 50 cut didn’t impact you, then.

That’s where I was going with this. It looks like one in my general area dropped it. None of the locations are particularly close to me but there are options for any that would have been expecting to go to that one.

My guess is, those are the kind of reductions that were made.

I feel for you if you’ve been trying to catch it, though.

Hopefully, the sudden attention will reverse the situation, at least for a couple weeks.

I will say, I didn’t find it to be the most comfortable movie to sit through, especially the first third or so, but I also don’t think they could have done it any different and made the impact they were going for, either.
 
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DKampy

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I am going to bring this up now because I expect certain posters to bring this up this weekend…I fully expect this weekend for some theaters to drop Poor Things…it is an especially crowded weekend with Mean Girls, Book of Clarence, and The Bee Keeper all debuting this weekend…Plus American Fiction is expanding wide and Soul seems like it is pretty much a wide release for the first time in theaters…but I have a feeling that Poor Things will be back in those theaters plus more so as it expands into it’s widest release yet after Oscar nominations
 

TP2000

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PS: wait… Wish has earned more than Migration or Trolls 3, hasn’t it?

Yes, although Migration has only been out for 16 days, so not quite the same comparison.

Or, one could also say that Wish has lost more than Migration or Trolls 3, based on production and marketing budgets.

Wish: Production $200/Marketing $100, Domestic $38, Overseas $59 = $203 Million Loss
Trolls:
Production $95/Marketing $50, Domestic $60, Overseas $40 = $55 Million Loss
Migration:
Production $72/Marketing $36, Domestic $46, Overseas $30 = $32 Million Loss


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TP2000

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I am going to bring this up now because I expect certain posters to bring this up this weekend…I fully expect this weekend for some theaters to drop Poor Things…it is an especially crowded weekend with Mean Girls, Book of Clarence, and The Bee Keeper all debuting this weekend…Plus American Fiction is expanding wide and Soul seems like it is pretty much a wide release for the first time in theaters…but I have a feeling that Poor Things will be back in those theaters plus more so as it expands into it’s widest release yet after Oscar nominations

So you think theater chains will drop theaters for Poor Things over the next two weeks, only to restore those theaters "plus more" after Oscar nominations are announced?

Just going on my gut instinct as someone who spent every year in the late 20th century decades at the best and gayest Oscars party in whatever city I was living in at the time, but I think you've overestimated the impact of the Oscars here in the 2020's.

If it was 1985, or even 2005, I would agree with you. But now? I'd be very surprised to see that happen. The socio-cultural importance of the Oscars has crashed into almost nothing in the past 10 years. (Since they got really political, and snotty about it too, just to make it even worse.)

Something tells me Poor Things has already peaked at 800 theaters in late December, 2023.
 

DKampy

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So you think theater chains will drop theaters for Poor Things over the next two weeks, only to restore those theaters "plus more" after Oscar nominations are announced?

Just going on my gut instinct as someone who spent every year in the late 20th century decades at the best and gayest Oscars party in whatever city I was living in at the time, but I think you've overestimated the impact of the Oscars here in the 2020's.

If it was 1985, or even 2005, I would agree with you. But now? I'd be very surprised to see that happen. The socio-cultural importance of the Oscars has crashed into almost nothing in the past 10 years. (Since they got really political, and snotty about it too, just to make it even worse.)

Something tells me Poor Things has already peaked at 800 theaters in late December, 2023.
The same thing happened with the director’s last film The Favourite in 2018…heck even Everything, Everywhere All at Once was rereleased to theaters afters it’s nominations last year…a year after it was originally in theaters and it was available on streaming and PVOD

Every theater is not going to drop it….Just getting ahead of the narrative some posters like to spin as I saw with the reaction to a 50 theater loss this last weekend
 

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