Andrew C
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At least the Hulu beta within Disney+...have standards.
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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BuddyThomas
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Clearly, you have not seen the film, but I'll be more than happy to explain it to you:
1. It is from Fox Searchlight, owned by Disney.
2. It has either been nominated for or has won well over 100 awards.
3. It won the Golden Globe for Best Picture - Musical or Comedy, as well as Best Actress -Emma Stone
4. It is from an extremely well respected and reviewed director.
5. It is 93% positive on Rotten Tomatoes
6. It is an Oscar front runner.
Sorry about these inconvenient facts.
the article is speaking on how streaming cut into EEaaO box office chances after it’s win and it did as it was already available on streaming and PVOD…Poor Things is available in theaters only…It will get a theater bump after nominations….even EEaaO did last year…I am not saying it will make 50 million in one weekend…it will keep chugging along adding to it’s box office just like his last film ( The Favourite)…and get a bit of a bump after nominations are out…Poor things had one of the better holds this week at only -11.7…as already mentioned by another poster…there are still people who want to watch every best picture nominated film…I know a couple myself…and they don’t go to the theaters every week like me…and the only way you can watch this film is in theaters…there is a reason so many award contenders release this time of year
I never claimed Haunted Mansion would get a Halloween bump..,I didn’t think it would…I figured it would be on Disney Plus by Halloween…as that was the only reason I could see releasing that film in late July….and if you think I automatically praise everything Disney…I did not care for the Haunted Mansion
Tha Realest
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Never said you made that claim re: HM.
I don’t know that comparing the trajectory for a 2018 film to one post-Covid and the current theatrical landscape holds up.
MagicMouseFan
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Rotten Tomatoes:
A from the critics. (Loved it)
B- from the fans. ( maybe not for everybody)
BuddyThomas
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No movie is for "everybody".
MagicMouseFan
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B- with fans on rotten tomatoes proves your point.
It’s a different movie, not everyone will like it and audience score reflects that.
Critics loved it, A rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
Little Mermaid (2023)
Audience gave it an A
Critics gave it a D+
Disstevefan1
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Casper Gutman
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It’s also not a horror movie, but why let facts creep into this thread.
The conversation about Poor Things is one of the stupidest moments this thread has achieved.
“Disney needs to release a more varied slate of films… um… not like that.”
Tony the Tigger
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Sounds like it’s probably not for me.You explained exactly why people care.
Cool.
(Note: see how I can be happy for and respectful of a movie I probably won’t watch?
And I have no hatred for it or bewilderment that other people might enjoy it very much?
I don’t have to smear the actors or the studio. Or the audience, for that matter.
It’s common practice to put these smaller films back into theaters when they are nominated for Oscars, and I’m guessing some people are going to be more curious/eager to see it because of the Golden Globes (and because of GG performance being somewhat predictive of Oscar performance.)
Good for all involved.
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MagicMouseFan
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Agree that for Disney to thrive, it needs to offer a wide range of entertainment options. Like a model similar to Netflix for Disney+, where viewers have access to a diverse selection of content ranging from films like ‘Aliens’ and ‘Predator’ to ‘Poor Things’, as well as classic Disney movies like ‘Dumbo’.”
Phroobar
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Disney+ needs a section similar to old video store's adult section. It is another erosion of the family friendly brand name. Why not rename the service to something that isn't linked to Disney. Just call it Hulu+. It just seems strange watching Poor Things on Disney.
Disney Irish
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Poor Things is not an X-Rated movie as you're making it seem. It might not be to your tastes, but its not like you're making it seem.Disney+ needs a section similar to old video store's adult section. It is another erosion of the family friendly brand name. Why not rename the service to something that isn't linked to Disney. Just call it Hulu+. It just seems strange watching Poor Things on Disney.
As for D+, the service outside of the US has had the Star tile (the Hulu equivalent outside the US) for years now. Its doesn't seem to have any less appeal because of the adult oriented content being available.
In fact I think that when polled D+ subs in the US it was something like 65% of households without children. So the market seems to be ok with having adult oriented content on D+ and associated with Disney.
In 2024 I think most people are smart enough to separate the "Disney" brand from other part of the Disney company.
Not to mention that if you don't want to see it you can lock away everything with parental controls in D+. Which actually makes it better than that curtain from the 80s in video stores which didn't block anything.
Casper Gutman
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Feels like it’s 1989 again and we’re arguing over Blaze.
Ghost93
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As someone who liked Poor Things, I think the movie is pretty niche in appeal. I am glad I saw it, but there's only a handful of people I would comfortably recommend it to.
Just so you know Pulp Fiction is Technically a Disney MovieDisney+ needs a section similar to old video store's adult section. It is another erosion of the family friendly brand name. Why not rename the service to something that isn't linked to Disney. Just call it Hulu+. It just seems strange watching Poor Things on Disney.
Casper Gutman
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Can you IMAGINE if Disney released Priest today? The park would be burned down. It just shows what an extreme age we live in and how the current controversy is the result of a huge, incredibly disciplined, enormously powerful network of media outlets and politicians working blasting propaganda non-stop.
MagicMouseFan
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Priest sucked though… maybe it would fit right in with recent Disney films.
I did enjoy Haunted Mansion.
Rebrand Disney+ and call it Touchstone… problem solved.
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BrianLo
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It’s interesting to note that the marketing rule does not apply correctly to Illumination films. Their budgets are often widely out of whack with their marketing spend.
For example Minions had a budget of 74 million but a marketing spend of 593 million. No that’s not a typo. Not what I’m accusing Migration of by any means, but 36 million seems awfully under-estimated. I’d imagine it is at least closer to Wish’s 100m. I think we all know Illumination campaigns rival or outstrip Disney.
Just to put an ‘asterisks’ besides the guess. Even Trolls 3 I’d assume spent more on marketing than the film was budgeted.