Well, Disney, *buy* the Fortnite movie rights and then Jumanji a team of Kpop singing TikTok dance glam girls into that world in which their machine guns only work when they're wearing bikinis.
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Well, Disney, *buy* the Fortnite movie rights and then Jumanji a team of Kpop singing TikTok dance glam girls into that world in which their machine guns only work when they're wearing bikinis.
Serpico Jones
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The Summer Box Office Is Quickly Turning South
Early hopes that grosses could top $4 billion this season have fizzled as insiders bemoan a lack of tentpoles.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Disney Irish
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If only some of us had been saying this all year.....The Summer Box Office Is Quickly Turning South
Early hopes that grosses could top $4 billion this season have fizzled as insiders bemoan a lack of tentpoles.
Well nice to see that the trades have now confirmed what some of us have said for a long time now.
Vegas Disney Fan
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Or $4 billion on a male dominated superhero franchise 15 years ago… it’s wild Disney has to search for something to appeal to young men when they already own the 2 biggest brands that (used to) appeal to young men.
Disney Irish
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I believe the point is to find the next big IP to turn into a franchise that appeals to that age group and not rely on Star Wars or Marvel as being the sole IPs for them, ie broaden the offerings.
Agent H
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Me duele la cabeza.
easyrowrdw
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Pre-pandemic you had Marvel ascending to their peak plus Star Wars plus 2/3 of the Jurassic World movies. That's a really strong base and then you add other movies onto it. I don't know if it's reasonable to expect those kinds of numbers. Jurassic is back, but it hit more overseas, there's no Star Wars, and the MCU has disappointed.The Summer Box Office Is Quickly Turning South
Early hopes that grosses could top $4 billion this season have fizzled as insiders bemoan a lack of tentpoles.
Willmark
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Would have been a wise plan then if they had found this mythical brand before they crashed SW and possibly Marvel.
Disney Irish
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If only some of us had been saying this all year.....
Well nice to see that the trades have now confirmed what some of us have said for a long time now.
To expand on this, quoting myself, here is what I said just last month.
And I don't see anything really changing that between now and the end of the year. 2025 prior to the summer season had a slight glimmer of hope of coming in higher than 2024 (which is why some people disputed this back a few months ago when I brought up 2025 coming in under 2024) but that is almost now a certainty that it won't happen.
Basically 2023 will be the high water mark post-pandemic for every year to hit it seems. And unless something changes it'll be a hard measure to hit. 2026 has two big event movies with Doomsday and Mando/Grogu and maybe a third with Dune 3, and then a few smaller event movies with Super Mario 2, Supergirl and maybe Odyssey. Will these be enough to make 2026 come in higher than 2023, dunno.
I guess we'll see, its going to be a long bumpy ride.
Disney Irish
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The same can be said about any movie studio, they all are on the hunt for the next "great" franchise. As I've said for a long time now, this is a Hollywood problem not just a Disney problem.
FrontierSpirit
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lot of passionate comments when you click on that variety article
Wendy Pleakley
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I feel like Disney isn't willing to take risks. What's an example of them trying to launch a new franchise with something that isn't Star Wars, Marvel, or live action remakes?
I guess animation is their primary space for original stories.
Disney Irish
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The same can be said for the rest of Hollywood, who is primarily risk adverse. This discussion has been had before, but original stories are few and far between in Hollywood these days, and even fewer have become hits. Sure there have been a couple, Sinners and now Weapons (horror right now seems to be where the originals are coming from these days) recently, but by and large its only smaller films that are originals and they aren't really breaking through in my opinion based on the numbers. The last decade or two has been the era of the IP Franchise, and I don't see that changing at least not based on the calendar for the next 18-24 months and rumored projects on the horizon.
As for Disney, its primarily Pixar and 20th Century and Searchlight that are their "original" studios, with D+/Hulu producing the shows, with a few by the rest of the Studios. And it seems to be hit or miss with them, just like the rest of Hollywood. I guess on the animation side Encanto was the biggest one recently. And a few smaller ones with the rest of the Studios under Disney like the recent "A Complete Unknown".
Phroobar
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Well they tried with Pixar but it is in the dog house if it isn't a sequel. Their new stuff just feels behind the rest of the industry. Hopefully Gatto fixes that. Disney Animation Studio seems like it was nuked by Wish and doesn't exist anymore.
DisneyWarrior27
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Don’t forget Pixar’s Toy Story 5, as that could be big if it’s marketed as the final chapter, which I hope they market it as.
DisneyWarrior27
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Tell that to Elemental which avoided losing money and broke even at near $500M WW.
Phroobar
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That was because of Korea and it being a Korea-based movie. A Pixar movie should NEVER just break even and be considered a success.
DisneyWarrior27
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Tell that to the producer of some James Bond movies who said, “if a movie ends its run at the box office breaking even, it’s a success.”
Phroobar
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James Bond is a 63 year old franchise. They really don't need more than breaking even to be successfully anymore.
Elemental is NOT James Bond.
Disney Irish
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We can't say that is guaranteed to be "big" unlike the others I mentioned which are more likely. The hope is that it will be, which is why Disney greenlit it, but I would put it as more of a smaller event movie like Mario 2.