Disney After Hours was great!

Much-Pixie-Dust

Well-Known Member
that price for that little amount of time is crazy. its cool that you can accomplish so much in the three hours but that doesn't seem worth the price.
Worth is subjective. I find it totally woth it. I can get everything done in that time without waiting in the blistering heat, dodging strollers and EVCs, or hearing screaming families that should have left the parks hours ago for a break, but won’t because they want to get their money’s worth for their ticket. For us, it works. The overall experience is great. It about quality of experience rather than spending 13 hours in a park.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Grumble grumble CASH GRAB! grumble grumble grumble.

That is exactly what it is...and you highlight it with completely misguided sarcasm about it.

The typical WDW park hours calendar would increase the hours of the operating day based on predicted attendance...now it holds firm or perhaps even reduces and they charge a full day fee for a 25% block at the end of it.

This has been gone over about a million times...so it’s unnecessary to do it again. But nothing has changed...so your cuteness is a fail.

Upsells will continue with more acceptance...and it may cross a line even for you at some point. But you’re probably not buying it or spending a lot of time anyway...so this is like abstract art in essence.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
That is exactly what it is...and you highlight it with completely misguided sarcasm about it.

The typical WDW park hours calendar would increase the hours of the operating day based on predicted attendance...now it holds firm or perhaps even reduces and they charge a full day fee for a 25% block at the end of it.
Be honest, do you lie on purpose or just not pay attention? This has been debunked over and over again. My last trip was eight nights at the beginning of June. Disney had morning extra magic hours at Animal Kingdom every single day. Magic Kingdom park hours were extended from the original announced hours every single day. Hours were extended in the mornings as well as the evenings, with more 8am openings that week than 9am. Morning EMH was starting at 7am, something you usually only see during peak holiday time. Not to mention the fact that Animal Kingdom, as a general rule, has added 3 to 5 extra hours every single day from what they used to do.

Of course this a cash grab. My sarcasm is directed at the outrage people have that this is somehow screwing them.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Disney's underinvestment has overcrowded WDW so much its customers are now applauding the prospect of being kicked out of the park and paying the entrance fee twice over just to actually being able to get on any rides.

Brilliant racket.
What are you talking about? Underinvestment doesn't cause crowding. Investment causes crowding. The narrative that new attractions increase capacity and thin crowds is nonsensical. Yes, new attractions increase capacity but they increase crows by a larger factor and make the parks more crowded, not less.

Prices are too low, plain and simple.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Be honest, do you lie on purpose or just not pay attention? This has been debunked over and over again. My last trip was eight nights at the beginning of June. Disney had morning extra magic hours at Animal Kingdom every single day. Magic Kingdom park hours were extended from the original announced hours every single day. Hours were extended in the mornings as well as the evenings, with more 8am openings that week than 9am. Morning EMH was starting at 7am, something you usually only see during peak holiday time. Not to mention the fact that Animal Kingdom, as a general rule, has added 3 to 5 extra hours every single day from what they used to do.

Of course this a cash grab. My sarcasm is directed at the outrage people have that this is somehow screwing them.
Nothing has been “debunked”. It’s not about Dak hours...it’s about bottlenecking expanding crowds into the same capacity and creating an upsell for it. But doing so with a significant altering of park policy.

I’m not even decrying it...but why stir the pot with that patronizing, dust defended, nonsense? Why start it again?

By you’re own admission...you have zero operational experience at WDW...none. Most don’t...but don’t lecture on it.

Nor do you have much of a sense of history. But you sure do seem to hold a grudge against the employees and customers...for some reason. That I don’t get?

You’re gonna have to fight this out in your own head for a few years till you gain the wisdom to look at this objectively.

If you think closing at 8 or 9 on Saturday’s in the summer would have been “normal”...and not 11, 12, 1 or 2 am for much of the first 40 years or operation...there’s no helping you here.

And e rides were $14 a night...come up with some convuluted “normal inflation” analogy there...I dare ya 😎

You look kinda stupid with that greedy, Disney defending, mommy sarcastic quip here...it is a cash grab whether you agree with that or not...and I don’t necessarily disagree. You want to pay $250 for a day of park tickets...be my guest...”well played, Disney”

But...

I have begun to agree with a lot you say on topics...this is beneath you.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
What are you talking about? Underinvestment doesn't cause crowding. Investment causes crowding. The narrative that new attractions increase capacity and thin crowds is nonsensical. Yes, new attractions increase capacity but they increase crows by a larger factor and make the parks more crowded, not less.

Prices are too low, plain and simple.

Well...I don’t totally agree with their point.

But when you’ve added net zero capacity (somewhere in the ballpark...not siginificantly up or down till 2021 it seems) and the on property attendance went from ballpark 44 mil to approaching 55 mil in 15 years...

It’s “something”...it may not be “underinvestment”...but it is allowing the advantages/value of the experience to be reduced...

Couple with price increases beyond reasonable inflation and that certainly isn’t “good” for customers who should all agree...

Do you want that link to the Wall Street journal article last week? If the greedy gazette will put it to paper...then “woah, boy” 😳
 

JohnD

Well-Known Member
that price for that little amount of time is crazy. its cool that you can accomplish so much in the three hours but that doesn't seem worth the price.

It may not seem like it. I personally haven’t done it myself but I think it is. I bet you could get more done in those three hours with little wait than a standard price ticket during regular hours with much long waits.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
It may not seem like it. I personally haven’t done it myself but I think it is. I bet you could get more done in those three hours with little wait than a standard price ticket during regular hours with much long waits.

That’s not a stretch assessment at all...

The real question is: what did you do/pay for BEFORE the “after hours”?

If the answer is “nothing”...more power to you...if it involves park tickets....then it is in essence a ponzie based on the parkhopper ticket that has existed for 25 years.

Few things are inherently “good” or “bad” when it comes to pricing...it’s what you do with them/how you apply them.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
I so often get amazed at how a happy topic, about a personal experience, get turned into grumbling “cash grab!!” topic from people who have never done whatever ‘cash grab’ in question.

News Flash- any non-essential item in life is technically a “cash grab”. Yet we still spend money on non essential items and entertainment which makes us enjoy life a little bit more than than with out said item/experiences. :)
 

JohnD

Well-Known Member
I so often get amazed at how a happy topic, about a personal experience, get turned into grumbling “cash grab!!” topic from people who have never done whatever ‘cash grab’ in question.

News Flash- any non-essential item in life is technically a “cash grab”. Yet we still spend money on non essential items and entertainment which makes us enjoy life a little bit more than than with out said item/experiences. :)

Agree. If you don’t want to do it or if you have personal convictions for not doing it then don’t. Why bring others down about it if it is something that may work for them?
 

durangojim

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
the other great perk about these events is the Disney ice cream treats, popcorn and soda that cost at least a good $4 to $7 and it was all you can grab and eat...I think that is better than candy or cookies & cocoa..
Worth is subjective. I find it totally woth it. I can get everything done in that time without waiting in the blistering heat, dodging strollers and EVCs, or hearing screaming families that should have left the parks hours ago for a break, but won’t because they want to get their money’s worth for their ticket. For us, it works. The overall experience is great. It about quality of experience rather than spending 13 hours in a park.
Some other things not mentioned are because the lines are so much shorter you can do some things you might not have time for. An example: for the past two years we haven’t wanted to stand in line for the Tangled lantern photo pass op, this time we stood in line for less than 5 minutes. We each had 2 ice cream bars a piece, 3 boxes of popcorn total, and 8 bottles of pop/ water and took 4 back to our resort with us. I figure all of that wa worth close to $40-50.
 

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