Disney After Hours Event

[draybook]

Is Disney trying to harm anyone via their revenue generating activities?

My main issue is people who complain about a change and cite "corporate greed" as their only argument.

For example, "ugh, Disney raised prices again, it's corporate greed to charge so much!", as opposed to "I think it's wrong they changed the FP+ fireworks viewing area into a reserved spot for dessert party attendees, that takes away something that used to be available to all guests".

The fireworks party example has been used as evidence of their greed.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

The fireworks party example has been used as evidence of their greed.

I'm sure it has, and that particular decision is deserving of criticism. There just needs to be more to the criticism than saying Disney is "greedy".

 

[DABIGCHEEZ]

So DVC recently had a complimentary "bash" at MK for their 25th(930-12pm, but you could enter at 7pm). They also have similar things going on at AK in Sept. I understand these are for the 25th Anniversary of DVC, but really why would anyone pay even $75 for 3 hrs. Also for an AP holder why would they pay $75, when they can go any other time? This gets sillier, the longer it goes on!

 

[raven]

Passholder and DVC discounts just released for the remaining dates. $75.

Sorry, Disney. Once you've failed this event you need to just kill it. Don't try milking your faithful followers for even more money. They already know there's nothing special about this event. And "giving them away" from the get go screams of unfairness to the guests who paid.

 

[NearTheEars]

Yeah, as an AP we already have the opportunity to walk by an attraction with a long wait because we know we can just come back a different time. So this is really not appealing at all.

 

[Uncle Lupe]

I enjoy a good corporate fail.

 

[Baloo62]

Because they are greedy and this was a slap in the face...That's a serious statement.

And a freakin' accurate one at that....although I would have added "pack of filthy vultures" as well. First the ROL fiasco and now this. Good girl, Karma, good girl.

 

[Lirael]

Oh i'm loving this. Clearly they're hurting so badly they'll even give out 50% discounts to get people to come. Hope they kill it off completly soon.

Now, if only the Morning EMH Paid Substitute-Oops, I mean, the "Early Morning Magic" failed as well...

 

[Flynnwriter]

Maybe Disney can divide an operating day into six 2 hour segments with only one of those time periods considered a normal day. Come on Disney! This is a greedy move that shows no respect for Disney resort hotel guests, annual pass holders or those families that must wait with their kids by the gates as the premium ticket families play inside because they we're forced to pay a imaginary premium for three extra hours. This shows no respect for their guest base.

 

[Flynnwriter]

Please write a thoughtful email to WDW to let them know this is a bad idea.

 

[DisneyGigi]

C

 

[DisneyGigi]

Curiousity makes me want to bite at 75 a ticket since we will be there, but think I would rather do Keys to Kindgdom instead. We loved Backstage Magic tour last year. Just seems more bang for the buck with a tour..

 

[GoofGoof]

I don't understand why the term "greed" is used so often.

Disney is not a charity. They charge money for goods and services. They often charge more for what they provide compared to similar companies.

"Greed" seems to be a generic term used to criticize Disney's decisions, but doesn't really mean anything. Why do we have to pay to park hop? Corporate greed! Why do we have to pay more to stay at a deluxe resort? Corporate greed! Why do prices go up? Corporate greed!

This event and the accompanying price tag don't represent "corporate greed" any more than anything else Disney charges for.

In my experience there are 2 definitions of corporate greed which can be related:

1. A term used to describe the way a company treats its employees. If a company has huge profits and then cuts back on benefits or lays off long term employees to bring in cheaper labor that's corporate greed. While this very well may apply to WDW and/or TWDC it's off topic here so I'll table it.
2. If a company acts in a way that is detrimental to the public, its customers or its own future in an attempt to capture short term gains (cash) it can also be considered corporate greed. A few examples, if a company dumps toxic waste in a river instead of disposing of it properly to save a few bucks that's corporate greed. If a company jacks up the price on a drug that sick or dying people need because there is no alternative and they can make super profits that's corporate greed. If a company cuts costs to the point that it creates an unsafe environment for workers or customers that's corporate greed.

While these events are ridiculously overpriced I agree it's not really corporate greed, at least not in the traditional sense. Some of the cost cutting and lack of proper maintenance could probably be classified as corporate greed. Nobody forced these 300 people to shell out $150 for this event and a trip to WDW is certainly not a necessity. If these events were wildly successful they would continue and since they were not they probably won't or at least not at that price.

 

[GoofGoof]

Greed - intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food

Let me think about that for a moment.

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I've been working in the private sector for decades. Knowing what I know about what goes on behind closed doors, yeah, that's about right.

It's the difference between wanting to be financially successful versus having the "intense and selfish desire" to make lots of cash no matter who gets harmed along the way. The "kill or be killed" instinct present in many boardrooms.

The movie Wall Street has a lot of memorial quotes but my favorite always gets overlooked:

The main thing about money, Bud, is that it makes you do things you don't want to do.

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I think it's the "who gets harmed along the way" part that makes this a grey area. Is anyone really hurt by having these events? If someone wants to pay $150 for 3 hours at MK more power to them. Same as paying $200 for the HM box thing. I might not think its a great way to spend my money, but it's a free country.

 

[draybook]

I'm sure it has, and that particular decision is deserving of criticism. There just needs to be more to the criticism than saying Disney is "greedy".

No, their actions are proof enough that they are greedy and it's backfiring. When the pixie dust settles then perhaps you'll realize it....

 

[Dad 2 M & M]

Its tempting for $75...but why do you have to call? Not available on the website...

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

No, their actions are proof enough that they are greedy and it's backfiring. When the pixie dust settles then perhaps you'll realize it....

They're providing a service in the form of this new event, and charging for it. How is this any more "greedy" than charging what they charge for t-shirts, stuffed toys, bottles of water, admission in general, parking, etc.

It's a simplistic term used so often that it has no meaning. If you can't offer up more than saying they're greedy in this case, you haven't made any sort of argument as to why this event is bad, or has gone too far, or whatever you want to argue.

 

[draybook]

They're providing a service in the form of this new event, and charging for it. How is this any more "greedy" than charging what they charge for t-shirts, stuffed toys, bottles of water, admission in general, parking, etc.

It's a simplistic term used so often that it has no meaning. If you can't offer up more than saying they're greedy in this case, you haven't made any sort of argument as to why this event is bad, or has gone too far, or whatever you want to argue.

Lol, you're acting as if they're offering something new or special. It's THE SAME RIDES that are available during the day. No special fireworks, no special parade, no special M&G outfits. Here's your ice cream, drink, have a good night.....

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

No, their actions are proof enough that they are greedy and it's backfiring. When the pixie dust settles then perhaps you'll realize it....

Speaking of tired phrases, using "pixie dust" anytime someone doesn't share a criticism of Disney. Especially ridiculous, as I never really stated any judgement about the event one way or the other.

Lol, you're acting as if they're offering something new or special. It's THE SAME RIDES that are available during the day. No special fireworks, no special parade, no special M&G outfits. Here's your ice cream, drink, have a good night.....

I never praised or defended the event. I just said that simply calling Disney greedy for holding an event and charging for it is meaningless. If that's all someone can say about any given Disney decision, they haven't really said anything.

And of course the event is new and/or special. It's three hours of rides without lines. Whether one likes the idea of the event or loathes it, it's rather obvious what is being offered.

 

[draybook]

Speaking of tired phrases, using "pixie dust" anytime someone doesn't share a criticism of Disney. Especially ridiculous, as I never really stated any judgement about the event one way or the other.



I never praised or defended the event. I just said that simply calling Disney greedy for holding an event and charging for it is meaningless. If that's all someone can say about any given Disney decision, they haven't really said anything.

And of course the event is new and/or special. It's three hours of rides without lines. Whether one likes the idea of the event or loathes it, it's rather obvious what is being offered.

Ok, I guess I wasn't clear. I don't care if you approve of my view point any more than you do if I approve of yours. They were greedy and it's backfiring on them. So long...