Most movies continue to make money past their theatrical window. If a movie 'breaks even' in pay1, pay2-5 will be all profit.
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Disney’s Mufasa - the lion king
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Disney Analyst
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Very true. It all feeds into a larger ecosystem.
Paying off the movie in pay1 is sometimes all a studio can hope for, of course they all want more, but they do have ways to leverage the product down the road for profit.
Hollywood likely has more flops than huge profit makers. (I don’t know the stats)
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Daily misinformation check: Streaming continues to fork over billions of dollars annually to the studios for content that it pays from the billions of dollars of revenue DTC earns monthly. Almost 23 Billion in revenue from subscription fees and adverts last fiscal year and growing, hence pluralized billion(s) per month.
This money goes towards all these productions we discuss. Typically 50-80million for the flops, 180-200 million for the big successes of streaming revenue is transferred against the production earnings or losses.
This money goes towards all these productions we discuss. Typically 50-80million for the flops, 180-200 million for the big successes of streaming revenue is transferred against the production earnings or losses.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Again…financing content doesn’t mean it’s a cash cow
Your opinion is not shared by the money brokers…with is all the suits care about
No one said anything about Mufasa being a cash cow. Those were exclusively your words. The production will turn a modest profit.
Considering almost everyone of us, me included, thought it was going to underperform or flop… especially coming off opening weekend, it’s a bit surprising.
Moana, Deadpool and Inside Out 2 are cash cows this year.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Not what I meant…the problem with the streaming and “self funding” is that Wall Street isn’t buying that it will yield consistent, free flowing profits
Which is why the entertainment stocks are lagging
That’s an entirely different discussion. I’m happy to have in a different thread about streaming.
Streaming is now self funded as an enterprise. Direct Content is fully funded by revenue and theatrical partially subsidized already, which comes out of customers and advertisers pockets, not out of D+ profit margins.
What happens in the business segment of D+ does not negate that customers aren’t indirectly paying for all the content. I happen to be optimistic on its direction than most, I acknowledge. But none of what I’m saying is contingent on the future, it’s what is currently happening.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It’s a different discussion you brought up with the pedantic lecture post…if you check the scoreboard.
But it’s tedious…so we can just watch the BO numbers and enjoy the weekend instead
Walter, my friend. You’ve just wrote another prequel conversation I didn’t actually participate in.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
We having a RIF issue today?Walter, my friend. You’ve just wrote another prequel conversation I didn’t actually participate in.
Yea, I’m fully able to follow the sequence of posts 238-240-241. The last of which was mine….
I’ll leave @MisterPenguin deduce what actually addresses the topic of post theatrical money he was talking about. Since to your benefit I assumed that’s what you meant by bringing up D+, since that’s what you responded to.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Yeah…the start of “free flowing tire pumping” by Keyser Soze
But even I am not gonna bore myself…let alone anyone else…by going over all this Again
Let’s just see what “the Muf” does?
bwr827
Well-Known Member
Better to lecture through vague one-liners, right?
On Mufasa, what I’ve seen here is expectations it would bomb, unfulfilled by a more positive and interesting result. Which led inevitably to shifting goal posts.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
networkpro
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- In the Parks
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BasiltheBatLord
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Totally unrepresentative anecdote: I went to a small theater in the deep south U.S. today (to see Nosferatu). Every single other person in the theater were families there to see Mufasa.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
TheCoasterNerd
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bro cannot accept that this movie is succeeding
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I don’t know if I’d call it succeeding yet, but it’s clearly overperforming compared to where it started.