Disney’s Mufasa - the lion king

[BrianLo]

Daily misinformation check: Streaming continues to fork over billions of dollars annually to the studios for content that it pays from the billions of dollars of revenue DTC earns monthly. Almost 23 Billion in revenue from subscription fees and adverts last fiscal year and growing, hence pluralized billion(s) per month.

This money goes towards all these productions we discuss. Typically 50-80million for the flops, 180-200 million for the big successes of streaming revenue is transferred against the production earnings or losses.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Daily misinformation check: Streaming continues to fork over billions of dollars annually to the studios for content that it pays from the billions of dollars of revenue DTC earns monthly. Almost 23 Billion in revenue from subscription fees and adverts last fiscal year and growing, hence pluralized billion(s) per month.

This money goes towards all these productions we discuss. Typically 50-80million for the flops, 180-200 million for the big successes of streaming revenue is transferred against the production earnings or losses.

Again…financing content doesn’t mean it’s a cash cow

Your opinion is not shared by the money brokers…with is all the suits care about

 

[BrianLo]

Again…financing content doesn’t mean it’s a cash cow

Your opinion is not shared by the money brokers…with is all the suits care about

No one said anything about Mufasa being a cash cow. Those were exclusively your words. The production will turn a modest profit.

Considering almost everyone of us, me included, thought it was going to underperform or flop… especially coming off opening weekend, it’s a bit surprising.

Moana, Deadpool and Inside Out 2 are cash cows this year.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No one said anything about Mufasa being a cash cow. Those were exclusively your words. The production will turn a modest profit.

Considering almost everyone of us, me included, thought it was going to underperform or flop… especially coming off opening weekend, it’s a bit surprising.

Moana, Deadpool and Inside Out 2 are cash cows this year.

Not what I meant…the problem with the streaming and “self funding” is that Wall Street isn’t buying that it will yield consistent, free flowing profits

Which is why the entertainment stocks are lagging

 

[BrianLo]

Not what I meant…the problem with the streaming and “self funding” is that Wall Street isn’t buying that it will yield consistent, free flowing profits

Which is why the entertainment stocks are lagging

That’s an entirely different discussion. I’m happy to have in a different thread about streaming.

Streaming is now self funded as an enterprise. Direct Content is fully funded by revenue and theatrical partially subsidized already, which comes out of customers and advertisers pockets, not out of D+ profit margins.

What happens in the business segment of D+ does not negate that customers aren’t indirectly paying for all the content. I happen to be optimistic on its direction than most, I acknowledge. But none of what I’m saying is contingent on the future, it’s what is currently happening.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That’s an entirely different discussion. I’m happy to have in a different thread about streaming.

Streaming is now self funded as an enterprise. Direct Content is fully funded by revenue and theatrical partially subsidized already, which comes out of customers and advertisers pockets, not out of D+ profit margins.

What happens in the business segment of D+ does not negate that customers aren’t indirectly paying for all the content. I happen to be optimistic on its direction than most, I acknowledge. But none of what I’m saying is contingent on the future, it’s what is currently happening.

It’s a different discussion you brought up with the pedantic lecture post…if you check the scoreboard.

But it’s tedious…so we can just watch the BO numbers and enjoy the weekend instead

 

[BrianLo]

…Disney plus still isn’t and a cash cow.

Daily psa

It’s a different discussion you brought up with the pedantic lecture post…if you check the scoreboard.

Walter, my friend. You’ve just wrote another prequel conversation I didn’t actually participate in.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Daily misinformation check: Streaming continues to fork over billions of dollars annually to the studios for content that it pays from the billions of dollars of revenue DTC earns monthly. Almost 23 Billion in revenue from subscription fees and adverts last fiscal year and growing, hence pluralized billion(s) per month.

This money goes towards all these productions we discuss. Typically 50-80million for the flops, 180-200 million for the big successes of streaming revenue is transferred against the production earnings or losses.

Walter, my friend. You’ve just wrote another prequel conversation I didn’t actually participate in.

We having a RIF issue today?

 

[BrianLo]

We having a RIF issue today?

Yea, I’m fully able to follow the sequence of posts 238-240-241. The last of which was mine….

I’ll leave @MisterPenguin deduce what actually addresses the topic of post theatrical money he was talking about. Since to your benefit I assumed that’s what you meant by bringing up D+, since that’s what you responded to.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yea, I’m fully able to follow the sequence of posts 238-240-241. The last of which was mine….

I’ll leave @MisterPenguin deduce what actually addresses the topic of post theatrical money he was talking about. Since to your benefit I assumed that’s what you meant by bringing up D+, since that’s what you responded to.

Yeah…the start of “free flowing tire pumping” by Keyser Soze

But even I am not gonna bore myself…let alone anyone else…by going over all this Again

Let’s just see what “the Muf” does?

 

[bwr827]

It’s a different discussion you brought up with the pedantic lecture post…if you check the scoreboard.

Better to lecture through vague one-liners, right?

On Mufasa, what I’ve seen here is expectations it would bomb, unfulfilled by a more positive and interesting result. Which led inevitably to shifting goal posts.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Better to lecture through vague one-liners, right?

On Mufasa, what I’ve seen here is expectations it would bomb, unfulfilled by a more positive and interesting result. Which led inevitably to shifting goal posts.

What an amazing, bold, shill endorsement

Be careful that limb doesn’t break under you

 

[networkpro]

Worldwide box office December 27-29​

Rank	Film (distributor)	3-day (world)	Cume (world)	3-day (int’l)	Cume (int’l)	Territories
1.	Mufasa: The Lion King (Disney)	$114.2m	$327.9m	$77.1m	$214.5m	53
2.	Sonic The Hedgehog 3 (Paramount)	$112m	$211.5m	$74m	$74m	53

 

[BasiltheBatLord]

Totally unrepresentative anecdote: I went to a small theater in the deep south U.S. today (to see Nosferatu). Every single other person in the theater were families there to see Mufasa.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Totally unrepresentative anecdote: I went to a small theater in the deep south U.S. today (to see Nosferatu). Every single other person in the theater were families there to see Mufasa.

You must have been at that one theater

Numbers aren’t great

 

[TheCoasterNerd]

You must have been at that one theater

Numbers aren’t great

bro cannot accept that this movie is succeeding

 

[Disney Irish]

bro cannot accept that this movie is succeeding

I don’t know if I’d call it succeeding yet, but it’s clearly overperforming compared to where it started.

 

[Chi84]

I don’t know if I’d call it succeeding yet, but it’s clearly overperforming compared to where it started.

Can it overtake those constantly moving goalposts?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

bro cannot accept that this movie is succeeding

Scraping to make your costs back is some new definition of “succeeding”, eh Junior?

I don’t know if I’d call it succeeding yet, but it’s clearly overperforming compared to where it started.

That is fair.

I don’t want to bring it up (really I don’t)…but this looks to land almost exactly where a 2023 “failure/non-failure” did…

It’s interesting to watch…so by early next week…post holidays…should be pretty definitive?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Can it overtake those constantly moving goalposts?

You must be new to the movie thread? The goalposts were moved when we started declaring write downs as “successes” and coming up with “long term profits” out of the ether…

Sadly…I can’t claim authorship of either of those…which means I can’t trademark them and make some extra scratch off them either