Disney’s Mufasa - the lion king

DKampy

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Super Mario got a 95% popcorn rating on RT, 59% Rt score, and made $1.36Bn WW. Let’s see if Mufasa clears any of those.
Not really making any predictions on what Mufasa will do….just pointing out the hypothetical nature of some people regarding critics… which I have seen before even the film is released
 

MickeyMouse10

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Disney doesn't pay for critics, because if they did why would they continue to pay them for reviews over the last 10+ years that aren't A+. Plus audiences don't tend to follow what the critics say these days anyways, as critics look at something different when grading a film than what audiences look for.

Also Disney is going to end up making over $5B globally this year, and is the number 1 studio by a huge margin (next closest is Uni I believe at a little over $2B globally). So I don't think they care all the much if Mufasa isn't graded that well by critics.

They've had to pay for review scores, because they have been making so much bad stuff. Everyone can have their own opinions. But I think the following movies and shows stink more than last weeks' trash.



The Last Jedi 90%
Skeleton Crew 90%
Ashoka 86%
Obi-Wan Kenobi 82%
The Acolyte 78%
Soul 95%
Turning Red 95%
Raya and the Last Dragon 93%
Ralph Breaks the Internet 88%
Lightyear 74%
Strange World 72%
Ms. Marvel 98%
Shang-Chi 92%
Moon Knight 86%
Falcon and the Winter Soldier 85%
Agatha all Along 84%
She-Hulk 79%
Black Widow 79%
Doctor Strange 2 74%
Echo 70%
 
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Disney Irish

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The Last Jedi 90%
Skeleton Crew 90%
Ashoka 86%
Obi-Wan Kenobi 82%
The Acolyte 78%
Soul 95%
Turning Red 95%
Raya and the Last Dragon 93%
Ralph Breaks the Internet 88%
Lightyear 74%
Strange World 72%
Ms. Marvel 98%
Shang-Chi 92%
Moon Knight 86%
Falcon and the Winter Soldier 85%
Agatha all Along 84%
She-Hulk 79%
Black Widow 79%
Doctor Strange 2 74%
Echo 70%
I'm not sure what your point is here. Is this somehow suppose to prove that Disney "pays" for critics? I don't see every one of those being 90% or higher, so if they are paying for them they aren't getting their monies worth. You'd think if they were paying they'd make sure to get 90% or better on every single one.

Also what about all the ones where they haven't gotten high scores like Wish or the entire Planes franchise, or any number of any of the other shows and movies that got less than 70% in the last 10+ year? How about those did Disney just forget to send the check that day?
 

MickeyMouse10

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I'm not sure what your point is here. Is this somehow suppose to prove that Disney "pays" for critics? I don't see everyone of those being 90% or higher, so if they are paying for them they aren't getting their monies worth. You'd think if they were paying they'd make sure to get 90% or better on every single one.

Also what about all the ones where they haven't gotten high scores like Wish or the entire Planes franchise, or any number of any of the other shows and movies that got less than 70% in the last 10+ year? How about those did Disney just forget to send the check that day?

Dude you got to be kidding. Many of these movies and shows are in the 80's and 90's. Are you trying to tell me that Ms. Marvel is a 98%?
 
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Disney Irish

Premium Member
Dude you got to be kidding. Many of these movies and shows are in the 80's and 90's. Are you trying to tell me that Ms. Marvel is a 98%.
Dude, just because you didn't like them and think they're "trash" doesn't mean they aren't fairly well received by others. Ms Marvel for example has an 80% average popcorn score, and I happen to have liked it also. So did Disney pay off the audience too? I didn't get my check, where is it?

Critics look at different things than a regular person. They don't have to be paid just to give it a good score. Again if they actually were being paid you'd think Disney would ensure all their content would get above 90% EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
 

MickeyMouse10

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Dude, just because you didn't like them and think they're "trash" doesn't mean they aren't fairly well received by others. Ms Marvel for example has an 80% average popcorn score, and I happen to have liked it also.

Critics look at different things than a regular person. They don't have to be paid just to give it a good score. Again if they actually were being paid you'd think Disney would ensure all their content would get above 90% EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

98%

Jaws, one of the greatest movies ever has a 97%, which is a lower percentage than Ms. Marvel.

People are always talking about negative review bombing, but it goes both ways. How does a show that does so poorly ratings wise get any good percentages? From either critics or viewers? Black Adam, one of the worst movies ever created has an 88% audience score. Even though the critics hate it and it bombed at the box office.

Don't let them throw the wool over your eyes.
 

TalkingHead

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TV critics have a tendency to be very favorable to series. Pretty uncommon to see a major/prestige title that’s under 80. RT now includes so many independent bloggers with questionable credentials that the movie scores can be misleading. Metacritic gives a better impression of professional critics’ reactions.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
98%

Jaws, one of the greatest movies ever has a 97%, which is a lower percentage than Ms. Marvel.

People are always talking about negative review bombing, but it goes both ways. How does a show that does so poorly ratings wise get any good percentages? From either critics or viewers? Black Adam, one of the worst movies ever created has an 88% audience score. Even though the critics hate it and it bombed at the box office.

Don't let them throw the wool over your eyes.
Take the tin foil hat off, there is no conspiracy here.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
TV critics have a tendency to be very favorable to series. Pretty uncommon to see a major/prestige title that’s under 80. RT now includes so many independent bloggers with questionable credentials that the movie scores can be misleading. Metacritic gives a better impression of professional critics’ reactions.
Good point, no system is infallible. And critics are just people too, they aren't "special" and there is no special training to be a critic, so they have likes and dislikes just like anyone else.
 

Ghost93

Well-Known Member
98%

Jaws, one of the greatest movies ever has a 97%, which is a lower percentage than Ms. Marvel.

People are always talking about negative review bombing, but it goes both ways. How does a show that does so poorly ratings wise get any good percentages? From either critics or viewers? Black Adam, one of the worst movies ever created has an 88% audience score. Even though the critics hate it and it bombed at the box office.

Don't let them throw the wool over your eyes.
Keep in mind, that the Rotten Tomatoes Scores is simply a reflection of the % of critics who liked (or at least didn't hate enough to give a rotten tomato) a movie. It is NOT a letter grade. For example, a movie could get 100% on Rotten Tomatoes even if most of the critics only gave it a 6.5 or 7 out of 10.

If you look at the average rating, Jaws has a 9.2 out of 10 whereas Ms. Marvel has an 8.3 out of 10.

I still think that score is waaay to high for Ms. Marvel, but the vast majority of critics based their reviews on the first two episodes that were provided in advance. The show didn't really go off the rails until around episode 4.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Keep in mind, that the Rotten Tomatoes Scores is simply a reflection of the % of critics who liked (or at least didn't hate enough to give a rotten tomato) a movie. It is NOT a letter grade. For example, a movie could get 100% on Rotten Tomatoes even if most of the critics only gave it a 6.5 or 7 out of 10.

If you look at the average rating, Jaws has a 9.2 out of 10 whereas Ms. Marvel has an 8.3 out of 10.

I still think that score is waaay to high for Ms. Marvel, but the vast majority of critics based their reviews on the first two episodes that were provided in advance. The show didn't really go off the rails until around episode 4.
Shhh, don't use logic here.
 

Hawkeye_2018

Well-Known Member
98%

Jaws, one of the greatest movies ever has a 97%, which is a lower percentage than Ms. Marvel.

People are always talking about negative review bombing, but it goes both ways. How does a show that does so poorly ratings wise get any good percentages? From either critics or viewers? Black Adam, one of the worst movies ever created has an 88% audience score. Even though the critics hate it and it bombed at the box office.

Don't let them throw the wool over your eyes.
you cant compare superhero tv series to a major film. also those tv ratings are only based on the first couple episodes, they are not given the entire season prior to review
 

DKampy

Well-Known Member
They've had to pay for review scores, because they have been making so much bad stuff. Everyone can have their own opinions. But I think the following movies and shows stink more than last weeks' trash.



The Last Jedi 90%
Skeleton Crew 90%
Ashoka 86%
Obi-Wan Kenobi 82%
The Acolyte 78%
Soul 95%
Turning Red 95%
Raya and the Last Dragon 93%
Ralph Breaks the Internet 88%
Lightyear 74%
Strange World 72%
Ms. Marvel 98%
Shang-Chi 92%
Moon Knight 86%
Falcon and the Winter Soldier 85%
Agatha all Along 84%
She-Hulk 79%
Black Widow 79%
Doctor Strange 2 74%
Echo 70%
You do realize that critics are just giving their opinions…. For example I think many of those titles are deserving the rating they received….It’s not wrong as that is my opinion… just as your opinion is not wrong if you disagree…. All film is subjective
 

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