DHS Makeover - What we know so far.....

Lynn Stephens

Lynn Stephens

Active Member
stretchsje said:
Latest rumors from Jim Hill
  • Radiator Springs definitely coming as the major draw at the rear of the Pixar area where the Backlot tour is now. (Jim Hill has said this many times before: it will be an indoor version due to Florida's rain.)
  • DHS redo is $1.2-$1.4 billion "depending who you talk to." (My thought: this might be excluding infrastructure, hence why insiders here have so heavily stressed the $2.8 billion figure includes infrastructure?).
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I am not a Jim Hill hater, but I don't trust him either. Didn't RSR alone cost $1 billion? What would that leave for the rest of the park if the entire redo was only $1.2-$1.4 billion?

I know...spinners!!
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

Premium Member
stretchsje said:
Latest rumors from Jim Hill (I think the episode was misnamed): https://disneydish.bandcamp.com/track/disney-springs-rumors-and-shanghai-disney-update
  • At the end of Hollywood Blvd, there will be grand entrances for Star Wars to the left, Pixar to the right to each deeply themed area... thus forcing a rethink of animation courtyard and the current Pixar Place (which is too narrow).
  • Disney Jr. entrance will probably be switched to Sunset Blvd, thus keeping it out of the Pixar area.
  • Radiator Springs definitely coming as the major draw at the rear of the Pixar area where the Backlot tour is now. (Jim Hill has said this many times before: it will be an indoor version due to Florida's rain.)
  • DHS redo is $1.2-$1.4 billion "depending who you talk to." (My thought: this might be excluding infrastructure, hence why insiders here have so heavily stressed the $2.8 billion figure includes infrastructure?)
  • Construction done in five phases in about as many years, but we're already in phase one.
  • Disney will try to keep staff levels the same until "full build-out"
  • Indy ride from Disneyland NOT coming, but don't discount something new from Indiana Jones since Disney acquired the rights.
  • The infrastructure improvements are so vast that they're having to redo the drainage plan for the park. (Example: permit for south of S Studio Dr.)
Great episode to listen to, as usual.
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He has said that that Radiator Springs Racers will not be a copy of what is in DCA but will be an entirely indoor version. This rumor has been floating around for a while so I am not sure if it's currently true.
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Lynn Stephens said:
So $1 billion paid for Cars Land and Mermaid, do you think $1 billion can pay for RSR and Star Wars Land?
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DCA Makeover was...

- All of Carsland with it's 3 rides, shops, resturants and themeing
- Mermaid
- Toy Story Midway Mania (not sure if this was part of the $1b)
- world of Color
- Carthay Circle Resturant
- Complete re-do of the entrance and Buena vista Street
- Complete re-do of the Paradise Pier food area
- Red car trolleys
- Removal of Maliboomer
- Replacement of Orange Stinger swing ride
- Various other smaller updates around the park
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
stretchsje said:
Latest rumors from Jim Hill (I think the episode was misnamed, so this link may not continue to work): https://disneydish.bandcamp.com/track/disney-springs-rumors-and-shanghai-disney-update
  • At the end of Hollywood Blvd, there will be grand entrances for Star Wars to the left, Pixar to the right to each deeply themed area... thus forcing a rethink of animation courtyard and the current Pixar Place (which is too narrow).
  • Disney Jr. entrance will probably be switched to Sunset Blvd, thus keeping it out of the Pixar area.
  • Radiator Springs definitely coming as the major draw at the rear of the Pixar area where the Backlot tour is now. (Jim Hill has said this many times before: it will be an indoor version due to Florida's rain.)
  • DHS redo is $1.2-$1.4 billion "depending who you talk to." (My thought: this might be excluding infrastructure, hence why insiders here have so heavily stressed the $2.8 billion figure includes infrastructure?)
  • Construction done in five phases in about as many years, but we're already in phase one.
  • Disney will try to keep staff levels the same until "full build-out"
  • Indy ride from Disneyland NOT coming, but don't discount something new from Indiana Jones since Disney acquired the rights.
  • The infrastructure improvements are so vast that they're having to redo the drainage plan for the park. (Example: permit for south of S Studio Dr.)
Great episode to listen to, as usual. I have a subscription
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The $2.8B figure includes infrastructure improvements.
 
P_Radden

P_Radden

Well-Known Member
stretchsje said:
Latest rumors from Jim Hill (I think the episode was misnamed, so this link may not continue to work): https://disneydish.bandcamp.com/track/disney-springs-rumors-and-shanghai-disney-update
  • At the end of Hollywood Blvd, there will be grand entrances for Star Wars to the left, Pixar to the right to each deeply themed area... thus forcing a rethink of animation courtyard and the current Pixar Place (which is too narrow).
  • Disney Jr. entrance will probably be switched to Sunset Blvd, thus keeping it out of the Pixar area.
  • Radiator Springs definitely coming as the major draw at the rear of the Pixar area where the Backlot tour is now. (Jim Hill has said this many times before: it will be an indoor version due to Florida's rain.)
  • DHS redo is $1.2-$1.4 billion "depending who you talk to." (My thought: this might be excluding infrastructure, hence why insiders here have so heavily stressed the $2.8 billion figure includes infrastructure?)
  • Construction done in five phases in about as many years, but we're already in phase one.
  • Disney will try to keep staff levels the same until "full build-out"
  • Indy ride from Disneyland NOT coming, but don't discount something new from Indiana Jones since Disney acquired the rights.
  • The infrastructure improvements are so vast that they're having to redo the drainage plan for the park. (Example: permit for south of S Studio Dr.)
Great episode to listen to, as usual. I have a subscription
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I am very excited about this update. Although not a completely original attraction, an indoor version of RSR could be amazing if the theming is very well done. As we have speculated, the infastructure costs are probably a lot more than we realize, but overall this is a huge project taking place in an open theme park so no real surprise there. It will be nice to get more information about these "5 phases" and exactly what they each entail. And although we all would love some new "E's" and "D's", I am hoping whatever we do end up with will be worth the wait.
 
Bairstow

Bairstow

Well-Known Member
stretchsje said:
Latest rumors from Jim Hill (I think the episode was misnamed, so this link may not continue to work): https://disneydish.bandcamp.com/track/disney-springs-rumors-and-shanghai-disney-update
  • At the end of Hollywood Blvd, there will be grand entrances for Star Wars to the left, Pixar to the right to each deeply themed area... thus forcing a rethink of animation courtyard and the current Pixar Place (which is too narrow).
  • Disney Jr. entrance will probably be switched to Sunset Blvd, thus keeping it out of the Pixar area.
  • Radiator Springs definitely coming as the major draw at the rear of the Pixar area where the Backlot tour is now. (Jim Hill has said on previous podcasts that it will be a different, indoor version due to Florida's rain.)
  • DHS redo is $1.2-$1.4 billion "depending who you talk to." (My thought: this might be excluding infrastructure, hence why insiders here have so heavily stressed the $2.8 billion rumor includes infrastructure. Could there really be over $1 billion in infrastructure?)
  • Construction done in five phases in about as many years, but we're already in phase one.
  • Disney will try to keep staff levels the same until "full build-out"
  • Indy ride from Disneyland NOT coming, but don't discount something new from Indiana Jones since Disney acquired the rights.
  • The infrastructure improvements are so vast that they're having to redo the drainage plan for the park. (Example: permit for south of S Studio Dr.)
Great episode to listen to, as usual. I have a subscription
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Maybe we're not talking about the same Jim Hill episode, but didn't he seem to indicate that the Toy Story Playland element of Pixar Place is the only one confirmed at this point (Radiator Springs being a very doubtful "phase 2") and that the Star Wars expansion, if it even happens, is 7-8 years from breaking ground?
 
TP2000

TP2000

Well-Known Member
cheezbat said:
I remember reading somewhere that Radiator Springs Racers cost $350 million...the whole of Radiator Springs being about $500 million.
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That's exactly the price range I remember as well from well-connected insiders back in 2011-12. And Radiator Springs Racers takes up half of the 12 acres of Cars Land, with all that exterior rockwork using a large part of the budget. Racers is a truly massive attraction.
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Chef Kronk

Chef Kronk

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I wouldn't be disappointed at all if we got Radiator Springs Racers, especially if it's an indoor version like Hill said. Great possibilities. I'm hoping we get much more for Pixar though, especially an attraction based on The Incredibles.
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Chef Kronk said:
I wouldn't be disappointed at all if we got Radiator Springs Racers, especially if it's an indoor version like Hill said. Great possibilities. I'm hoping we get much more for Pixar though, especially an attraction based on The Incredibles.
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The entire "Carsland to DHS" rumor has been out there for quite some time.

I would not be a fan of another test track.
 

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