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Disney Irish
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Sorry if you don't want to accept it. But there are stories happening right now in the Marvel universe taking place in California that show the same ideals and spirit of California history that you are asking for.
Tony Stark moving from New York to Silicon Valley to start a new technological revolution is a different reference to when William Shockley left New Jersey for Silicon Valley to start the Semiconductor revolution.
Curious Constance
Well-Known Member
I'd rather clip my toenails with my teeth than visit a land in DCA that was inspired by Tony Stark moving from New York to California.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Not saying that is going to happen. I'm just providing an example of how it can be tied back to the ideals and spirit of California theme that some here want.
There's the Cree.
Which superheroes are alien imposters?! Leading to a Civil War 2!
If the Fox deal comes through, there's the Secret War which can shake up multiple universes and bring in the X-Men and Fantastic Four into the mix for a fresh roster mix-and-match.
There's a lot more genres to mine.
There's the inevitable MCU / DCEU crossover. Why? Because it's printing money even thinking about it. Corporations will follow the money. And because just like Sony found out they needed Marvel's help to save the Spider-Man franchise, WB will realize the same for their roster.
There are plenty of 5 and 10 year plans to ramp up into for the next phase. They've already admitted they have it planned out for the next 5 years.
TROR
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dweezil78
Well-Known Member
Maybe... But not sure if Disney/Marvel will ever need their help badly enough to risk tainting the MCU. With the exception of maybe Wonder Woman, fans haven't really embraced many of the DCU characters in a way where I'd say it's worth doing a crossover anytime in the near future. DC can't even get their own crossover movies right!!!
Like with Spider-Man, Marvel's team would take the creative lead.
Me:
Got it. We'll wake you up in 50 years to a Marvel-comic-book-based economy.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I'd say you're likely right. But who knows, DC is now owned by AT&T. So anything is possible I guess. Iger/Feige and Stephenson/Hamada may see some value in it.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
That would be the only way I would see it done. If DC Films took the lead who knows what we'd get...
D.Silentu
Well-Known Member
Taking this new information at face value, it would seem that the pendulum style ride system was never the intention for this Spiderman attraction. Disappointing if that's the case, but the rumored 3D ride would likely have a lower height requirement and I admit in a superhero land that is a plus. Since the Avengers ride is supposedly slated for a second phase, it would seem the delay mentioned by the "neighbor lady" should not affect the land's opening date.
__r.jr
Well-Known Member
If this forthcoming information were to be believed, along with the correlation of the teaser artwork Disney released this past March, then the "sharing their technology and methods of helping the world with the public" aspect could be centered around Spider-Man, Dr. Strange and Black Panther. Various types of technology is integrally vital to those three characters in regards to their abilities, storylines and environments respectively.
A Super Hero Campus concept makes sense with the educational and explorational elements but how does one make it Southern Californian? Setting alone would deem it shallow and meaningless. It's already hinting at being contrived. Although, perhaps they can rectify it by borrowing narrative points from the 1980's West Coast Avengers series. Los Angeles is where the Avengers open up a second base of operations and it could be somewhat of a thoughtful transition from Buena Vista Street. But then there is the conflict with the time periods. These Marvel-esque lands are based from the current, contemporary cinematic universe.
Still, wouldn't it be something to have a Marvel land based on L.A. in the 80's?
A Super Hero Campus concept makes sense with the educational and explorational elements but how does one make it Southern Californian? Setting alone would deem it shallow and meaningless. It's already hinting at being contrived. Although, perhaps they can rectify it by borrowing narrative points from the 1980's West Coast Avengers series. Los Angeles is where the Avengers open up a second base of operations and it could be somewhat of a thoughtful transition from Buena Vista Street. But then there is the conflict with the time periods. These Marvel-esque lands are based from the current, contemporary cinematic universe.
Still, wouldn't it be something to have a Marvel land based on L.A. in the 80's?
VJ
Well-Known Member
I love how Disney either pretends the park isn't named Disney California Adventure (Mission: BREAKOUT!, Pixar Pier) or goes unnecessarily all-in on the California theme, even when they have to resort to shoehorning (Disney's Electrical Parade 2001, whatever this Marvel thing is). It truly is a park without a solid direction.
George Lucas on a Bench
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We've known that since 2001.
Yeah its pretty funny to me. DCA has basically just threw in anything it wanted in the last few years and never even try to justify it anymore. When MSEP showed up I think they had something that said 'a California Classic' on one of the floats. This is when the park was still very new so the mentality was to try and make anything connected to California. But after A Bug's Land was built that was the first sign of changes.
Of course they still try here and there but as Pixar Pier now shows if they want something added they simply do it. I have been saying this for years and the irony is I always pointed this out every time someone said it was impossible to put Marvel in DCA while ignoring the other dozen things there that had zip to do with California. Now oddly enough they are trying to justify Marvel being there lol. Why bother now? The park isn't about California anymore, especially when they went out of their way to take away all the attractions that were specifically identified to it in the last few years.
Then again its also funny how easily they resolved it by simply saying it take place in California. If any of this is true of course.
They don’t need to worry about such things because the only people who care whether its a California park or it takes place in California don’t realize both can be truth and also have Pixar, Marvel, and Little Mermaid because Disney is before California Adventure.
Obviously I agree with you. Its just no need anymore. Half the lands already have nothing to do with California. 3/4ths of the attractions are included with that. DCA is as much of a fantasy park as DL is now. And its a fantasy park today for one simple reason: that's how people identify Disney parks in general. The angle DCA 1.0 was trying to do was completely opposite of that and give both parks a separate identity. Well that's been gone awhile. DL is the park with Disney characters, princesses and future Star Wars with a bit of America thrown in and DCA is about Pixar, Disney characters and future Marvel with a bit of California thrown in. Maybe both parks started with an emphasis of cultural history but both has faded with time. And seems like a good dynamic between the two.
George Lucas on a Bench
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Will Marvel Land have Tobey? If not, pass.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
He is the person that shall not be named in the MCU or in the theme parks. Shame on you for bringing up it up....
