News D23 Expo 2022

["El Gran Magnifico"]

What They Didn’t Talk About

- S.E.A. TV series
- Poppins at EPCOT
- Spaceship Earth refurb

Am I missing anything?

The 3 story bar at EPCOT where you were supposed to get a great view of Harmonius.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Voice actors ain’t cheap.

Keith David is also a voice of another Disney Character...

 

[CaptinEO]

Reposted my thoughts from the DL thread:

Great:
Portos
WDW shows being removed

Good:
WoC Replacement

Neutral:
Sanfrantokyo
New Fireworks

Weird:
Kevin Fiege on Stage
John Favreau on Stage

Awful and Awkward:
The "brainstorming" concepts that are real but not real that somehow took what seemed like a half hour of time with awful dialogue.

Most Brutal:
The Figment Fakeout

Biggest Loser:
Tie between WDW fans who wasted time watching this and DL fans that were convinced Tommorowland was getting an overhaul

Biggest Winner:
Me because I like portos and I dislike the 50th WDW shows, can't wait to see them gone and can't wait to grab a box of pastries on our way out of Disneyland.

 

[marni1971]

Would either Coco or Encanto fit Fantasyland, though? Honestly, I think a mini-land off Frontierland or perhaps Adventureland would work better thematically.

Ideally it would be DHS but I’m old school.

 

[doctornick]

Rememebr I’ve talked about an expansion N/W of Splash? It’s a development of this and the prior plan. But as demonstrated today detail is as clear as mud.

So, the path would go from the train station behind Splash and I would guess need a bridge over the canal and build on the northern edge of RoL? Would this go all the way around to connect to Liberty Sq?

Would this involve TSI at all? Or putting bridges to the island and stopping the water traffic on the RoL?

 

[Tha Realest]

Keith David is also a voice of another Disney Character...

Ducktales (reboot) too!

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Personally, I think Encanto would be a better fit for Fantasyland (maybe a New Fantasyland 2.0 mini-land of the outlying village and one dark ride inside the house) whereas a Coco village and the land of the dead would be a better expansion for Frontierland. It's just hard to get excited about these concepts when the likelihood of any of this actually happening feels so small.

I agree on the excitement point, but does Colombia really fit into Fantasyland? Seems like a huge clash with the existing storybook European theming.

 

[Tha Realest]

Reposted my thoughts from the DL thread:

Great:
Portos
WDW shows being removed

Good:
WoC Replacement

Neutral:
Sanfrantokyo
New Fireworks

Weird:
Kevin Fiege on Stage
John Favreau on Stage

Awful and Awkward:
The "brainstorming" concepts that are real but not real that somehow took what seemed like a half hour of time with awful dialogue.

Most Brutal:
The Figment Fakeout

Biggest Loser:
Tie between WDW fans who wasted time watching this and DL fans that were convinced Tommorowland was getting an overhaul

Biggest Winner:
Me because I like portos and I dislike the 50th WDW shows, can't wait to see them gone and can't wait to grab a box of pastries on our way out of Disneyland.

Was it just me or was there no pop whatsoever (despite a pause for applause) for King Thanos?

 

[marni1971]

So, the path would go from the train station behind Splash and I would guess need a bridge over the canal and build on the northern edge of RoL? Would this go all the way around to connect to Liberty Sq?

Would this involve TSI at all? Or putting bridges to the island and stopping the water traffic on the RoL?

I don’t know. But a previous suggestion was scrap all river use and bridge the river.

 

[BrianLo]

I don’t have many answers. But shoving this IP into the MK anywhere but Fantasyland reaffirms my opinion of current management. And our choice of taking our money elsewhere after this year.

Which IP? Coco / Encanto or the Villains land?

 

[CaptinEO]

Was it just me or was there no pop whatsoever (despite a pause for applause) for King Thanos?

Pop?

 

[Stevie Amsterdam]

I don’t have many answers. But shoving this IP into the MK anywhere but Fantasyland reaffirms my opinion of current management. And our choice of taking our money elsewhere after this year.

Same here. My partner and I cancelled our DLR trip we had planned for 2023, right after the D23 parks presentation. Luckily we didn’t buy entrance tickets yet and the hotel was 100% refundable. We are traveling to WDW next Sunday and we’ll be sure to have a nice trip. We were saving up to go again in 2030 (for my 50th birthday) but instead we’ll go to Japan again, or a different destination all together.

 

[doctornick]

The MK expansion is HUGE news if they follow through with a massive expansion there. Doesn’t matter what it’s filled with.

We know Dinoland overhaul is guaranteed to happen, they announced some random ideas on what they can fill it with, but it doesn’t matter, we know it’ll happen.

Then they announced the MK Frontierland connector, which, doesn’t matter what fills it, shows they’re actually considering it. It’s exactly what Magic Kingdom needs. New physical space with a lot of attractions.

This is kind of my take. I’m thrilled just that the north side of RoL is being truly considered for expansion. The specifics of what goes less is actually less important IMHO than that they would be adding attractions and space to MK which needs it.

 

[Amidala]

We’re doing Universal, Seaworld & Busch this coming trip and skipping Disney, which is unheard of. We were considering a day ticket for Epcot for Food and Wine, but after this nonsense I’ll just spend another day at Islands.

I‘m feeling it’s time to take a break from Disney and try out some of the European parks I’ve not been too, like Efteling, Phantasialand, Europa Park etc.

I know many won’t replicate these thoughts, but i can justify high costs to myself if I can see the money being reinvested into the product. With Disney now it feels like a blatant laugh in the face.

Idk, I get the Universal comparison (loosely) but to me, Seaworld & Busch don't offer anything approaching what Disney does, even in its current iteration. Unfortunately, I think that's why they feel so little motivation to innovate with the parks, even with Epic Universe on the horizon...they're aware they've cornered the market on themed experiences, at least within the U.S. to the point that it might as well be a monopoly.

Would love to visit parks like Efteling and Europa, but I can't imagine this would save you any money once you factor in the cost of flights and lodging out of the country. Since visiting Europe (to me) is a trip in itself, I would be more likely to spend a day at these parks, and the majority of my trip exploring the nearest cultural centers. When I visited DLP, it took up a very small fraction of my time in France, because there was so much more to see and do. Compare this with Orlando, which is 100% a theme park destination, well suited to a purely theme park-focused trip. YMMV if you travel to Europe frequently.

 

[mightynine]

Pop?

Excitement/applause.

 

[UNCgolf]

I don’t know. But a previous suggestion was scrap all river use and bridge the river.

If they were going to scrap using the river for anything, why not just fill it in and reclaim all that land for other uses?

Not saying I want them to do that (I don't), but it would be a lot more efficient if that's the choice they make.

 

[CaptinEO]

Personally I'm fine with the MK expansion but I have no idea why people are getting so hyped about it (not on here, on social media sites) when none of these plans are confirmed to be happening. They're all just brainstorming ideas. And if they do end up happening, I fully expect them to be scaled back budget wise.

I blame them for brainstorming ideas on stage and presenting it weirdly, it was ambiguous enough someone could reasonably have a take away of these things are happening but the execs are giving a "wink, wink, nudge, nudge". It was confusing for me and my wife.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

So, how did it go?

 

[Surferboy567]

So, just want to make sure I’m understanding this correctly.

Nothing new is coming to WDW after TRON and Tiana.

MK:

• TRON opening in Spring for some dumb reason it better be before Springtime Surprise next year
• They are “maybe” getting something “Beyond Big Thunder” that could be potentially huge if it actually happens
• Happily Ever After is coming back
• Tiana Bayou Adventure late 2024

EPCOT:

• New Nighttime Show
• Figment Meet and Greet
• World Celebration opens in late 2023 for some dumb reason.

Hollywood Studios:

• Wasn’t even mentioned in the show
• Fantasmic is coming back this year

Animal Kingdom:

• Is “maybe” getting a massive expansion…maybe

Those EPCOT “announcements” were the biggest gut punches. I hope those bluesky projects come soon, they could be game changers. The only issue is that MK really doesn’t need more to do. I’m still excited for these if they become real.

Overall, I’m disappointed but I really don’t know how to feel after that panel, it was all structured so weirdly. They announced nothing new…but they announced blue sky concepts.

 

[aladdin2007]

I don’t know. But a previous suggestion was scrap all river use and bridge the river.

I can see current management doing just that. Another huge mound of destruction/construction dirt the size of the epcot moana mess, and take years to do it. I pray not.