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[Tha Realest]

We’re talking about the MCU (Disney), not the world of superheroes in general.

We're not talking "the world of superheroes in general." You said he was "the first black main Marvel superhero." That's simply not true.

Again, Boseman's performance is iconic on its own merits. Lying about its place in Marvel film history diminishes your overall argument.

 

[Californian Elitist]

We're not talking "the world of superheroes in general." You said he was "the first black main Marvel superhero." That's simply not true.

Again, Boseman's performance is iconic on its own merits. Lying about its place in Marvel film history diminishes your overall argument.

It is true, since I was clearly talking about the MCU. This is in reference to the Disney Legend Awards. Why would Halle Berry’s Catwoman come into the discussion??

That’s a fact, not a lie. This isn’t an argument.

 

[Tha Realest]

It is true, since I was clearly talking about the MCU. This is in reference to the Disney Legend Awards. Why would Halle Berry’s Catwoman come into the discussion??

That’s a fact, not a lie. This isn’t an argument.

Going forward, if you're going to laud the historical significance of something, it would be helpful to both know your history and use more precision in your language.

 

[Kamikaze]

Why do Disney/MCU stans believe time began in 2008? This curiously happened again with Captain Marvel, lauding it as the "first" female superhero film (again, discounting Wonder Woman, Electra, Catwoman, and countless others).

Because the MCU DID begin in 2008, and Disney didn't buy Marvel until 2009?
Electra is one of the worst movies of all time. Catwoman isn't much better. Wonder Woman I'll give you, but I don't think they're inducting Gal Gadot as a Disney Legend for her performance in a DC movie.
Blade is a comic book movie, but he's not really a 'superhero'.

As far as the 'deserving of a Disney Legend' stupid *** argument goes:

1) If you think this is bad, look at who's in the WWE Hall of Fame.
2) Its not like there are actual qualifications or requirements.
3) Look at some of the people getting into sports HoFs now. Tim Raines? Please.
4) They have to induct some people each D23. Which means the pool must get shallower/deeper (depending on how you look at it).
5) They just added 'Diversity' to the Keys so of course they are going to add more diverse Legends to go along with it.
6) There's no physical location to go to view busts or plaques or anything.
7) It means literally nothing. It doesn't hurt anyone. Its just an empty honor for publicity and some ego stroking.

There should be more people in. They should be inducting 'famous' long time CMs like Maynard from DL.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Going forward, if you're going to laud the historical significance of something, it would be helpful to both know your history and use more precision in your language.

I would say it would be helpful if you considered the context of the topic, and really just context clues in general. That way, the conversation won’t go left and irrelevant things won’t be brought up.

Anyways, have a good one.

 

[Tha Realest]

6) There's no physical location to go to view busts or plaques or anything.

 

[Kamikaze]

Fine. You're one of those 'I'll pull out one little line because I know I'm wrong about everything else' people, eh.

There's no place where the public can go see the plaques.

Satisfied?

 

[Tha Realest]

I would say it would be helpful if you considered the context of the topic, and really just context clues in general. That way, the conversation won’t go left and irrelevant things won’t be brought up.

Anyways, have a good one.

Why the need for "context clues" when your plain language and historical facts counter everything you said?

Be better next time. Wouldn't want to diminish your reputation for intelligence.

 

[Tha Realest]

Fine. You're one of those 'I'll pull out one little line because I know I'm wrong about everything else' people, eh.

There's no place where the public can go see the plaques.

Satisfied?

But you can go visit the Disney Legends Plaza - it's included in The Walt Disney Studios tour!

As far as your other points, I do think Boseman's deserving, so have no problem with the "diversity" issue (pt. 5). The cast of Frozen? A little self-serving. In turn,

1) Do you really want to equate DL to WWE?
2) agree
3) Baseball and pro football HOFs remain incredibly tough to get into, the latter increasingly so.
4) Generally agree, but wish it was weighted more to actual contributions than cynical synergy to promote/market upcoming films
7) probably true

 

[Kamikaze]

But you can go visit the Disney Legends Plaza - it's included in The Walt Disney Studios tour!

As far as your other points, I do think Boseman's deserving, so have no problem with the "diversity" issue (pt. 5). The cast of Frozen? A little self-serving. In turn,

1) Do you really want to equate DL to WWE?
2) agree
3) Baseball and pro football HOFs remain incredibly tough to get into, the latter increasingly so.
4) Generally agree, but wish it was weighted more to actual contributions than cynical synergy to promote/market upcoming films
7) probably true

1) I'm comparing one made up 'Hall of Fame' with the requirements set at someone's whim to another. Very interested to see the 2023 WWE HoF inductions with no Vince.
3) Tim Raines being in and A-Rod, Clemens, and Bonds being out makes the baseball Hall of Fame irrelevant. Football is also pretty irrelevant because the modern day numbers are going to be so out of wack that everyone who plays a long career will be viewed as 'deserving'.
4) They've done the synergy/theming thing for a long time with inductions:
'89 was Walt's 9 old men
'02 was all Europeans (Studios Paris opened)
'05 was all Parks and Resorts (DL 50th)
7) Does whoever going in keep anyone else out? No. Maybe for a single induction year if they only want to do a certain number of people, but just because they had Chadwick in doesn't mean they can't induct Anthony Mackie in 2024. Its not a limited number of places available.

Honestly the Frozen thing is whatever. I guess it would have made more sense around the Frozen 2 release, but I also can see the reasoning of inducting all of them at once instead of just Josh Gad or whoever.

 

[No Name]

So Joe Rohde, Eddie Sotto, Tom Morris, and a host of others aren’t “Disney Legends”, but Oprah Winfrey, Barbara Walters, and Robin Roberts are? That’s not a sexist comment, just some of the more egregious examples. Throw RDJ and Anthony Anderson in there if you’d like.

The “Disney Legend” award is about as meaningful as hair styling products in Bob Chapek’s bathroom.

It’s hard to argue RDJ doesn’t deserve it.

 

[Rteetz]

It’s hard to argue RDJ doesn’t deserve it.

RDJ as in Robert Downey Jr? He is already a legend.

 

[RSoxNo1]

3) Tim Raines being in and A-Rod, Clemens, and Bonds being out makes the baseball Hall of Fame irrelevant. Football is also pretty irrelevant because the modern day numbers are going to be so out of wack that everyone who plays a long career will be viewed as 'deserving'.

These things are all subjective. As a baseball fan I'm in favor of "judge the era". There's no way to know for sure who was clean and who was dirty other than a confirmed positive test. If you want to keep A-Rod out for that reason, I get it. That being said, for purposes of baseball I assume everyone in that era was/is dirty and I'm sure that there are dirty players in the Hall of Fame.

I think the threshold has been reduced in recent years and that has allowed the likes of Lee Smith, Tim Raines, Jack Morris, Harold Baines, Alan Trammel and other borderline guys to get in.

Back to the Disney Legends ceremony and Chadwick Boseman, he was the anchor of one of the biggest box office movies (#14) of all time and part of an ensemble in three others (#2, #5, #24). His death is why he's being inducted now, but ultimately that alone would also see his induction. Disney has inducted a series of Disney princesses with a reduced portfolio of Disney roles and anyone that truly objects to this has too much time on their hands. This is a celebratory award that is very arbitrary. It doesn't have a fan following like a sports hall of fame or the Academy Awards. There are no benchmarks or thresholds that have to be met in order to satisfy induction.

 

[UNCgolf]

3) Tim Raines being in and A-Rod, Clemens, and Bonds being out makes the baseball Hall of Fame irrelevant. Football is also pretty irrelevant because the modern day numbers are going to be so out of wack that everyone who plays a long career will be viewed as 'deserving'.

Tim Raines deserved a spot, but even if you don't think he did, there are still dozens of other players in the Hall who were not as good as him -- he was significantly better than other recent inductees like Jack Morris and Harold Baines, for example.

I agree that keeping out the PED guys is ultimately pointless, though.

 

[doctornick]

These things are all subjective. As a baseball fan I'm in favor of "judge the era". There's no way to know for sure who was clean and who was dirty other than a confirmed positive test. If you want to keep A-Rod out for that reason, I get it. That being said, for purposes of baseball I assume everyone in that era was/is dirty and I'm sure that there are dirty players in the Hall of Fame.

Many older Hall of Famers, included widely celebrated ones (e.g. Willie Mays) are known established users of "greenies" (amphetamines) when those drugs - much like steroids in the 90's/2000's - were essentially commonplace and accepted as part of the game at the time. I find it entirely silly the argument that steroid use should keep obvious deserving players out of the HoF but amphetamine use is just ignored. It's just odd.

 

[No Name]

RDJ as in Robert Downey Jr? He is already a legend.

Yes and the person I was replying to is suggesting he didn’t deserve it.

 

[DCBaker]

D23 has announced the livestream schedule for the Expo -

Friday, September 9

10:30 a.m. – Disney Legends Awards Ceremony

Disney100 kicks off at D23 Expo with an epic presentation that includes the Disney Legends Awards Ceremony, featuring Disney CEO Bob Chapek. The event will once again honor those visionaries and artists who have made significant contributions to the Disney legacy. This year’s honorees include Anthony Anderson, Kristen Bell, Chadwick Boseman, Patrick Dempsey, Jonathan Groff, Josh Gad, Idina Menzel, Ellen Pompeo, Tracee Ellis Ross, and more.

1 p.m. – Disney & Marvel GAMES SHOWCASE

Tune in to the Disney & Marvel GAMES SHOWCASE for announcements, trailers, and reveals for new and upcoming games from Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Lucasfilm, and 20th Century Studios.

2:30 p.m. – Disney For Scores Podcast Live Celebrates Marvel Music

Celebrate the powerful music of Marvel storytelling when Variety’s Jon Burlingame hosts Disney For ScoresPodcast Live. Jon will bring the format of the popular Disney For Scores Podcast to life as he interviews composers of some of your favorite Marvel series and films. Listen in as they fill us in on the secrets of creating the amazing music that helps build the Marvel Universe!

4 p.m. – Disney Legends in Conversation

Listen in as members from the newest class of Disney Legends partake in an enlightening conversation about their storied careers.

6 p.m. – D23 Expo Mousequerade 2022

The Ultimate Disney Costume Contest returns to D23 Expo! Join host Nina West and guest judges Yvette Nicole Brown, Ashley Eckstein, and Ally Maki as we showcase the most magical makes and quintessential creations of the Disney cosplay fan universe. And new this year, fans watching the show at D23 Expo and at home will be able to cast their vote for “Fan Favorite” and see who will be named the winner!

Saturday, September 10

10:30 a.m. – Talkin’ Pets with the Vets of National Geographic

Join National Geographic’s vet sensations Dr. Jan Pol and his wife Diane (The Incredible Dr. Pol); Dr. Vernard Hodges (Critter Fixers: Country Vets); Dr. Geoff Pye, Dr. Jen Flower, and animal keeper Rain Westgard (Magic of Disney’s Animal Kingdom); and Alfonso Ribeiro (America’s Funniest Home Videos: Animal Edition) for a heartwarming look behind the scenes of their popular series, moderated by Tamron Hall (Tamron Hall Show).

12 p.m. – Bob’s Burgers

The Emmy® Award-winning animated series Bob’s Burgers joins D23 Expo hot off the critically acclaimed release of The Bob’s Burgers Movie! The cast and creators will break news and have you howling with laughter during a lively panel discussion.

2 p.m. – MARVEL COMICS: Celebrating 60 Years of the Amazing Spider-Man

Celebrate 60 spectacular, sensational, web-slinging years of Spider-Man! From his humble debut in 1962’s Amazing Fantasy #15, he wall-crawled his way to international super-stardom. Now, join Executive Spider-Editor Nick Lowe and Editor in Chief C.B. Cebulski as they team up to trace the comics history of the web-head across six decades—and BEYOND! Tantalizing trivia about the webbed wonder will be shared in this can’t-miss panel, so be sure to swing by!

3:30 p.m. – Disney’s Epic Entertainment Showcase: The Musical: The Extravaganza!

Join Disney Branded Television for an exclusive showcase that highlights a legacy of excellence in storytelling and includes talent appearances, performances, and never-before-seen previews of original content for Disney+, Disney Channel, and Disney Junior.

6 p.m. – D23 Disney Stars Trivia Showdown

Join the iconic Nina West (RuPaul’s Drag Race, Hairspray on Tour, D23 Mousequerade 2022) as she hosts hopeful celebrity contestants and audience members through a kaleidoscopic world of larger-than-life Disney Games, including Disney Trivia, physical challenges, and so much more!

6:30 p.m. – The Making of Disney100: The Exhibition

Producers from Walt Disney Archives, Semmel Exhibitions, and Studio TK reveal illuminating details about the all-new exhibition celebrating 100 Years of Disney Wonder, scheduled to premiere at The Franklin Institute in Philadelphia in February 2023.

Sunday, September 11

10:30 a.m. – A Boundless Future: Disney Parks, Experiences and Products

Join Disney Parks, Experiences and Products Chairman Josh D’Amaro for a look at Disney’s boundless future. With announcements and updates on the magic happening around the world in parks, on the high seas, at home, and beyond, attendees will get a behind-the-scenes look at the big dreams of Disney Imagineers. Every Disney fan will want to be a part of this special presentation full of exciting news and surprises.

1 p.m. – Walt Disney Imagineering: 70 Years of Making the Impossible, Possible

For 70 years, Walt Disney Imagineering has blended imagination with cutting-edge technology to create groundbreaking experiences. Join Imagineers past and present as they discuss the core elements of storytelling and innovation that bring dreams to life for guests from all around the world.

3:45 p.m. – Explore the World with the Next Generation of National Geographic!

Meet the exciting next generation of National Geographic stars—Kristen Kish (Restaurants at the End of the World), Bertie Gregory (Epic Adventures with Bertie Gregory), Mariana van Zeller (Trafficked with Mariana van Zeller), Jeff Jenkins (travel blogger), and Dwayne Fields (7 Toughest Days)—who are taking viewers to the most remote locations on Earth in pursuit of breathtaking landscapes, extraordinary wildlife, exotic foods, epic challenges, and undercover storytelling.

5 p.m. – D23 Disney Stars Trivia Showdown

Join the iconic Nina West (RuPaul’s Drag Race, Hairspray on Tour, D23 Mousequerade 2022) as she hosts hopeful celebrity contestants and audience members through a kaleidoscopic world of larger-than-life Disney Games!

Livestream the Magic of D23 Expo 2022 with These Can’t-Miss Panels and Presentations - D23

D23 Expo [LIVE] is the official livestream of D23 Expo 2022 and includes the Disney Legends Award Ceremony, Disney Parks panel, Marvel Games, and more!

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[wdwmagic]

Parks presentation is 90 minutes.

 

[bhg469]

Parks presentation is 90 minutes.

Zach is really gonna stretch out that rock work description.

 

[UNCgolf]

Parks presentation is 90 minutes.

Or is it 30 minutes with an hour long break for lunch?