Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

hopemax

Well-Known Member
I will not deny there is clearly something ‘subjectively’ off putting because that’s the shared reaction I witnessed. But I think there’s a logical ‘it’s time’ to the whole matter.

Media makes people seem more recent than they really are. Really an AA Walt talking about his vision for parks seems more historically important today than Lincoln. Not even in a perverse corporate self-seving way. The man is important and not just because the company wills him so. There is clearly a statute of limitations on the whole matter and I think the company has roughly defined it as 40 years dead In past. ‘Logically’. Not the reaction everyone is going to have.

I assume this will be incredibly tasteful and they are going to tread so cautiously as a result.

Weird anecdote when I was previously figuring this all out. Walt’s dad was the same age when Lincoln died as my dad was when Walt died.
Difference is there is tons of footage of the real Walt, and even though many of us weren’t alive when he was, for adults, our Gen X childhoods included watching all the reruns of the Disneyland tv shows on the Disney Channel. It’s hard to replicate humans and human movement, which is why realistic humans in animation, even Pixar, the facial mapping, de-aging, etc is so hard to do. Your eyes (and ears) know something’s not right, even if people can’t articulate why.
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
Looks like minimum 3

Which three are you looking at? I think we must be talking about different things. I didn’t mean unique ride systems. I meant they didn’t lift Tron or Ratatouille or Rise or MMRR etc etc.

We aren’t getting Radiator Springs. They even changed Hong Kong’s Avengers Spiderman ride into something unique (looks tower of terror like) and affirmed Indy is a unique story treatment.
 

SplashJacket

Well-Known Member
Which three are you looking at? I think we must be talking about different things. I didn’t mean unique ride systems. I meant they didn’t lift Tron or Ratatouille or Rise or MMRR etc etc.

They even changed Hong Kong’s Avengers ride into something unique (looks tower of terror like) and affirmed Indy is a unique story treatment.
There are zero clones.

A full slate of completely unique attractions when it would’ve been very easy to do otherwise.

RSR from DCA could’ve been cloned to MK.

Avengers E from DCA could’ve been cloned to HKDL, DAW, SDL, but instead we’re getting a spider-man tower (not even Guardians), and a Spider-Man coaster.

Lion King for DAK (when it happens) is supposedly not a flume, so it’ll be unique then too.
 

Sir_Cliff

Well-Known Member
We aren’t getting Radiator Springs. They even changed Hong Kong’s Avengers Spiderman ride into something unique (looks tower of terror like) and affirmed Indy is a unique story treatment.
On that note, I'm curious how a Marvel-themed ToT is going to look on the edge of Tomorrowland competing with the castle for attention.
 

SplashJacket

Well-Known Member
On that note, I'm curious how a Marvel-themed ToT is going to look on the edge of Tomorrowland competing with the castle for attention.
Should compete far less than Big Thunder or Matterhorn at Disneyland.

Very excited for this project. HKDL needed a very solid E-ticket and this will likely be the best ride in the park (or at least challenge Mystic).
 

Sir_Cliff

Well-Known Member
Yes! Coco and Encanto are the most exciting for me by far. Avatar looks cool but will be 10 years away probably haha
I forgot about Encanto, but that did also look good to me and is exactly the sort of attraction DAK needs. In general, the Tropical Americas stuff was on the positive side of the ledger for me, but I guess I felt we already knew about it and I wasn't among those who felt the IPs were inherently inappropriate for DAK.

Riding through the world of Coco should be particularly nice, though!
 

WDWhopper

Active Member
Nope…
It’s a Business and that’s why it won’t happen. No advantages to it
Stop acting like you know for sure what Disney is planning. You don’t know, it’s just your opinion. I have Disney employee friends, some who work pretty closely with infrastructure and design, who were really looking forward to tonight’s presentation and announcements, so that they could find out for sure about future plans. If they don’t know, you don’t know.
 

Sir_Cliff

Well-Known Member
I feel bad for Paris. At this point in time, they now have the worst Avengers Campus.
That whole park is a mess and they're spending a fortune for it to still be a mess.

If this new Lion King land is based on the live action version of the film, they have really lost their minds. Almost as crazy as putting an Alice In Wonderland attraction into Fantasyland based on the live action version.

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Disnutz311

Disney World Purist
Current theory: At D23 Brazil we find out that a Brazil pavilion is coming to Epcot, with a new Three Caballeros attraction, meaning that the Gran Fiesta Tour becomes a lite version of the DCA Coco ride. The concept art looked vaguely like the IASW style scene from Gran Fiesta Tour IMO.
Interesting. I would assume they would save something for Brazil D23.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Stop acting like you know for sure what Disney is planning. You don’t know, it’s just your opinion. I have Disney employee friends, some who work pretty closely with infrastructure and design, who were really looking forward to tonight’s presentation and announcements, so that they could find out for sure about future plans. If they don’t know, you don’t know.
I do know…because I know the business numbers behind it.

It’s been discussed on these types of places for 20 years…and it always ends in the same conclusion. No need to bog this down reenacting it again
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Which three are you looking at? I think we must be talking about different things. I didn’t mean unique ride systems. I meant they didn’t lift Tron or Ratatouille or Rise or MMRR etc etc.

We aren’t getting Radiator Springs. They even changed Hong Kong’s Avengers Spiderman ride into something unique (looks tower of terror like) and affirmed Indy is a unique story treatment.
Well there’s a clone to replace a clone with a clone of the original clone in dak

The Ironman thing is an exact copy of an old Epcot install

And if they’re not doing RSR in Orlando…they’re doing a mocked up version of it with another system…it would seem?
 

WDWhopper

Active Member
I do know…because I know the business numbers behind it.

It’s been discussed on these types of places for 20 years…and it always ends in the same conclusion. No need to bog this down reenacting it again
You don’t know. I know for a fact that there have been at least three balloon tests done since 1999, with one being done within the last three years. And who cares how many times it’s been discussed on this board? What does that accomplish? Disney will do what Disney decides to do, without consulting this board. The theme park playing field is always adapting and reacting in Central Florida. Who knows what the future holds for Disney. Certainly not any of us.
 

BasiltheBatLord

Well-Known Member
Going to put down my thoughts in no particular order:

This presentation was excruciating to watch with the stalling and show tunes. But onto the substance...

Villians Land feels like the main thing people are going to be talking about for the next couple of years. It's awesome to see, and very glad it's going in MK (where it belongs, imo) but the anticipation is going to be high for this since it's been a classic "fanfic dream land" for decades. And I'm not confident that the current team at Disney can match high expectations.

Cars in MK was the biggest disappointment for me and I'm pretty sure is an additional step in wiping Fronteirland of its original theme.

Tropical Americas seems like a net win for DAK. Although it's a shame to lose Dinsoaur, this should ultimately be a much better land than Dino-Rama. They could have provided a bit more justification on how this fits the theme of animals, but hopefully there is more to be seen there.

Monstropolis definitely wins most unexpected. I thought that was finally dead and buried (but where is it going?)

DCA is getting a lot of much needed love, however it comes at the cost of reversing the thematic gains made with DCA 2.0. Puzzling how they continue to chip away at that after spending so much time and money and having done an all around good job with that (also, where the heck is the Coco boat ride going?)

I don't hate the Walt AA per se, but it just strikes me as bizarre and unnecessary. But it at least puts a nail in the coffin of that rumor that the company was moving away from Walt.
 
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