Creepy New Survey Question....

[ThemeParkJunkee]

The survey is not as creepy as mousekeeping showing up at my room on checkout day and having to apologize profusely because her supervisor told her we would be out of the room at 10AM because we had a SM FP+ (we decided to skip it).

 

[Dad 2 M & M]

What is the actual issue here? Because the original image is only shocking if you can't figure out how Disney knew to send the survey in the first place.

I don't have anything to add...touche'

 

[lazyboy97o]

The survey is not as creepy as mousekeeping showing up at my room on checkout day and having to apologize profusely because her supervisor told her we would be out of the room at 10AM because we had a SM FP+ (we decided to skip it).

This is definitely the creepy angle that was powering NextGen, the over sharing with front line employees to create "more personalized" experiences.

 

[prfctlyximprct]

Well someone just made the ignore list.

Disappear! Disappear! Back, back, over the falls!

My job is done.

 

[Crazydisneyfanluke]

Hey, I only post photos of cheesesteaks!

Thanks Dave, made me hungry.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Once the data exists it can be resold, Do you REALLY want your heath insurer to have a detailed accounting of what you ate during your vacation... And then extrapolating your 'normal' diet from that.

Yup, now I'm really worried about that second Mickey Bar I had the last time. At the same time I am curious as what use they have for what make-believe ride I was on and what men's room I went too. And know I won't be able to sleep because not only did I travel clockwise through the parks, but, I also bought a souvenir T-shirt on my way out. Haines would probably kill for that information. I don't even want to think about the fact that I didn't go to the Hall of the Presidents the last time I was there. I'm envisioning being clapped in irons any day now. If you don't hear from me again would someone please tell my children I love them... Thank you!

Seriously, folks this is going from tin hat paranoia straight to padded room insanity. Try and get a grip!

 

[Goofyernmost]

Dude I do this sort of crap for a living. Big Data is a scary thing without controls and currently there are none.

it's just a matter of time before your purchases are used against you in denying health care or premium setting Right now it's experimental give it a couple of years and there will be firms selling 'risk scores' to your insurers based on your purchases. Just like those OBD II plugs which Progressive uses to give you a custom rate will be MANDATORY.

So you are the guy responsible for this privacy issue. Shame! Can't you find honest work?

 

[Goofyernmost]

They were collecting information before the MagicBands too

Yea, how come no one seemed to be concerned that they were being watched on camera constantly?

 

[Dad 2 M & M]

Yup, now I'm really worried about that second Mickey Bar I had the last time. At the same time I am curious as what use they have for what make-believe ride I was on and what men's room I went too. And now I won't be able to sleep because not only did I travel clockwise through the parks, but, I also bought a souvenir T-shirt on my way out. Haines would probably kill for that information. I don't even want to think about the fact that I didn't go to the Hall of the Presidents the last time I was there. !

Hey! Let's meet on Main Street, and trade Magic Bands....that'll throw um for a loop...if we could just blur out our faces we'd have um all messed up!!

 

[thehowiet]

The government is free to track me, spy on me, etc. You know why? Because I am not doing anything wrong. My privacy is not that precious. If I was that worried about it then I'd never leave my house.

That's great that you feel that way, and that's your right to do so. Thankfully not everyone subscribes to that logic. I feel my right to a reasonable amount of privacy is worth at least a modicum of open discourse, so I'm not as quick to throw in the towel on this one.

If it was just as simple and black and white as "if you're not doing anything wrong, you don't have anything to hide" then we wouldn't have ever needed constitutional protections of our civil liberties in the first place.

Now to bring this back to the original topic, as far as corporations go, in this case TWDC, I think public debate regarding privacy concerns is healthy and beneficial to us all. I hope that we as a society don't ever become so lazy that we just roll over without even questioning whether or not the business practices of a global corporation are ethical just because we don't have anything to hide.

 

[Incomudro]

Well, let me ask you this: Do you find the mouse keeping track of what you do, stay, answer surverys, etc., creepy?

No.

 

[ThemeParkJunkee]

Okay, I was one of those tin foil hat wearing Disney fans that was concerned about the privacy issue back in 2013 (when Magic Bands were debated) but I figured "whatever", it's not a "private" place as my trip approached. My room however, should have been. Private. I had never considered the use of my information would be(for the DIS purposes of efficiencies) used for housekeeping efficiency. I had a lovely visit. I was a little disconcerted that I would get to my room and a video of me on Mine train was available via photo pass or whatever but my last day? The housekeeper just wandering in? All because of a band on my wrist. Wrong.

 

[Hula Popper]

https://disneyprivacycenter.com/

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/faq/my-disney-experience/my-magic-plus-privacy/

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/faq/my-disney-experience/frequency-technology/

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/park-experience-terms-conditions/

 

[ParksAndPixels]

I don't necessarily mind mouse keeping using data to attempt cleaning rooms in an efficient manner (although without knocking, that's my issue). Lol. On our honeymoon (pre-magic band) we had deserts and cold chocolates delivered to our room before our return more than once. (Each time it seemed obvious they were delivered VERY close to our return to the room) Where our movements were tracked or if the estimate was simply based upon the parks we visited hours/ dinner reservations idk, but the timing was too perfect each time we returned. So I don't really see the bands being too different from key to the world cards. Just my opinion

 

[ford91exploder]

This is definitely the creepy angle that was powering NextGen, the over sharing with front line employees to create "more personalized" experiences.

And exactly the type of information which low level staff have no 'need to know' now a housekeeper with criminal intent can simply query my room and find my reservations and KNOW when I'll be away, Before they had to key in and risk detection.

Some of us predicted that this kind of misuse of data would be happening

 

[ford91exploder]

For those of you who think that this data collection is benign I suggest you read this report yes it's 90 pages but just scanning the index will show you how many scores which most people are not even aware of affect your ability to get insurance, housing, jobs and medical care

http://www.worldprivacyforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/WPF_Scoring_of_America_April2014_fs.pdf

 

[Hula Popper]

The survey is not as creepy as mousekeeping showing up at my room on checkout day and having to apologize profusely because her supervisor told her we would be out of the room at 10AM because we had a SM FP+ (we decided to skip it).

The housekeeper who came to clean your room told you that her supervisor had told her that you had a Fastpass so you would not be in your room at 10am?

 

[ThemeParkJunkee]

The housekeeper who came to clean your room told you that her supervisor had told her that you had a Fastpass so you would not be in your room at 10am?

Yes it was our checkout day and she was pretty embarrassed.

 

[seabreezept813]

Don't worry your documents have been sold to some illegal immigrant or middle eastern terror group wait till your husband winds up on the 'no fly list' because of it, How do I know well in my state there was a huge scandal about just this kind of thing happening, People getting hired and HR 'losing' passports and birth certificates. Did not stop till an undercover fed wanted to buy 'documentation' and get a drivers license.

good thing I document everything! But really I don't think people who are cautious with their information are paranoid.

 

[jakeman]

I outsource to an Indian call center staffed by child labor.

Do you make the kids use American names?