News Country Bear Jamboree is getting new songs and acts

[wdrive]

To be clear, I’m not telling anyone to stop saying negative things. I’m saying that reading post after post of uninformed, knee-jerk, grumpiness quickly gets old for me. And I imagine I’m not the only one who would prefer it if every thread wasn’t like entering the Thunderdome of Dramatic Negativity.

Then the block button is there for you if you don’t want to see any grumpiness. People are allowed to have knee-jerk responses and be grumpy. Most of the posts on these forums are uninformed if we’re going to be picky.

If you don’t like someone’s opinion discuss it with them, ask questions. If they keep giving you silly responses it’s not worth your time to engage with them and let them go. But I think telling people to stop posting what they think about a relevant topic on a discussion forum is wrong.

 

[_caleb]

Then the block button is there for you if you don’t want to see any grumpiness.

Did you miss when I replied to you with this?

Also, some of the people who post a bunch of poopy-pants posts also post really thoughtful, interesting, and engaging stuff that I wouldn’t want to miss.

People are allowed to have knee-jerk responses and be grumpy.

Of course they are! Did you miss when I replied to you with this?

I’m not looking to control anyone here, maybe just asking for a little bit of consideration for the fact that we’re all real people and here to chat about things we enjoy?

Or this?

To be clear, I’m not telling anyone to stop saying negative things.

Most of the posts on these forums are uninformed if we’re going to be picky.

Right. Most of my posts are uninformed! Do you enjoy reading posts by people who hate the new Country Bear Jamboree show they’ve haven’t seen?

If you don’t like someone’s opinion discuss it with them, ask questions.

Oh, I do. In fact, I’m doing it right now! Does scrolling through post after post of doom and gloom seem fun to you?

If they keep giving you silly responses it’s not worth your time to engage with them and let them go. But I think telling people to stop posting what they think about a relevant topic on a discussion forum is wrong.

It seems strange to me that you’d write this in response to anything I’ve posted here.
Did you miss when I replied to you with this?

To be clear, I’m not telling anyone to stop saying negative things.

Or this?

Negativity is not the same as “talking about the bad.” I’m all about talking about the good and the bad.

Look, Disney is bound to do things us fans don’t like. Maybe people are fans of the good old days and bitter that those are gone forever. But I think if we all keep in consideration that we’re talking to real people here, and about things that are a real treat to even experience once in our lives, we might just moderate how we express ourselves.

 

[eddie104]

To be clear, I’m not telling anyone to stop saying negative things. I’m saying that reading post after post of uninformed, knee-jerk, grumpiness quickly gets old for me. And I imagine I’m not the only one who would prefer it if every thread wasn’t like entering the Thunderdome of Dramatic Negativity.

This is exactly how I feel half the time I’m on here.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

So, getting back on topic....Any one encounter the walk-around bears lately to see if they have CM's telling guests that Liver Lips is named Romeo Mcgrowl? You have to wonder if it's not just at MK but when he also appears at DL still since the show closed..

 

[Tony the Tigger]

But I think telling people to stop posting what they think about a relevant topic on a discussion forum is wrong.

That’s not what’s happening. People are literally inventing things to be upset about *that haven’t happened yet* - that’s negativity for the sake of negativity, and it’s boring, unimaginative, and brings the room down.

“Oh, I can’t see how they’ll make this song fit…”

Well, maybe they have better imaginations than you.

 

[wdrive]

Did you miss when I replied to you with this?


Of course they are! Did you miss when I replied to you with this?

Or this?


Right. Most of my posts are uninformed! Do you enjoy reading posts by people who hate the new Country Bear Jamboree show they’ve haven’t seen?

Oh, I do. In fact, I’m doing it right now! Does scrolling through post after post of doom and gloom seem fun to you?

It seems strange to me that you’d write this in response to anything I’ve posted here.
Did you miss when I replied to you with this?

Or this?

Look, Disney is bound to do things us fans don’t like. Maybe people are fans of the good old days and bitter that those are gone forever. But I think if we all keep in consideration that we’re talking to real people here, and about things that are a real treat to even experience once in our lives, we might just moderate how we express ourselves.

No I didn’t miss anything. Not everything needs a reply but I’ll try go back through and answer each point if you like.

I enjoy reading people’s speculation on the information they have about a new attraction yes, whether they’re positive or negative or indifferent I enjoy reading different views. Is it wrong if someone preferred Disney World in the 70s compared to today? I don’t think so, I preferred lots of things in the past compared today.

I don’t really understand what you mean about ‘if we all keep in consideration that we’re talking to real people here, and about things that are a real treat to even experience’. If people think this experience is not up to par or worse than it was in the past they’re allowed to discuss that on a discussion forum. Not everything has to be sunshine and roses. Equally you can debate back with them that whatever the new thing is is perfect to you.


Edited to say I think I’ve covered everything you brought to my attention, please point it out again to me if you think I’ve missed anything

 

[wdrive]

That’s not what’s happening. People are literally inventing things to be upset about *that haven’t happened yet* - that’s negativity for the sake of negativity, and it’s boring, unimaginative, and brings the room down.

“Oh, I can’t see how they’ll make this song fit…”

Well, maybe they have better imaginations than you.

Why can’t they state that they think a song in a musical based attraction won’t fit? All threads on this website would be very dead if we could only discuss opened attractions and give no speculation or thoughts on information released.

And I think my imagination is quite alright thanks. I haven’t actually given any opinion over anything in this attraction, I don’t feel particularly strongly either way. However if we have to imagine how things will fit and not just simply see how they fit I’d question whether they do fit.

 

[the_rich]

I have no problem with people complaining. But it's tedious when the same posters keep complaining about the same thing over and over again. Some of them seem to want everything to stay as it was in 1971 and that just isn't realistic. I'd even venture to say that if walt were still running the company most of the original attractions would be gone already.

 

[bwr827]

Some of them seem to want everything to stay as it was in 1971 and that just isn't realistic. I'd even venture to say that if walt were still running the company most of the original attractions would be gone already.

Interesting thought! I bet you’re right about Walt replacing the originals. He was so passionate about new technology and new ideas.

 

[celluloid]

That’s not what’s happening. People are literally inventing things to be upset about *that haven’t happened yet* - that’s negativity for the sake of negativity, and it’s boring, unimaginative, and brings the room down.

“Oh, I can’t see how they’ll make this song fit…”

Well, maybe they have better imaginations than you.

So one can only love hype rather than wonder or question what it will be like?

The other poster having their opinion leading you to insulting them, even again at the end of this quoted post is very telling.
Unacceptable. Even if you don't see it the same.way or disgree completely.

 

[Brer Panther]

So, we're one hundred percent sure they AREN'T adding in any actual IP characters a la Under New Management Tiki Room, right?

 

[KDM31091]

I’m entitled to my opinion just make anyone else. And I never said I hated it. In fact I said the song sounds nice and it does. But that doesn’t mean it will make for a wonderful attraction. I said I do not have a lot of optimism as given the track record of some recent projects, I’m inclined to think it will be a show that feels like a string of popular Disney songs which just won’t have the same charm as the original show. But does that mean it will be awful? No. But, I’m allowed to dislike the direction they’re going.

I think many fans in general aren’t thrilled with some recent direction at Disney, with hotel designs trending more generic, IP being shoved in everywhere, etc. it is losing some of the charm and magic it was built on and this new attraction is an example of that IMO, and I’m allowed to be upset about that.

Now, some more recent projects have resulted in fun attractions such as Runaway Railway and TS Mania, both of which I ride over and over. i don’t hate all IP. I hate it when it feels like it’s shoved everywhere.

 

[Virtual Toad]

So which is worse, negative posts about changes to the parks, or posts expressing nothing but negativity over the negativity in others' posts?

It seems in the minds of some, all posts are welcome on this discussion forum, but some posts are more welcome than others. Got it, thanks.

I am not and will not be afraid to express my opinions on this forum, even if they are negative and even if they are passionately expressed. But I always try to explain *why* I think something is wrong, doesn't live up to expectations, or is inconsistent with the standards of quality expected from the brand.

I also respect those who disagree with me and value their opinions, and if WDW does something I like, I tend to post about that as well.

So discuss. It's a discussion forum. If you disagree, great. Explain why. But don't try to silence dissenting opinions by attempting to bully others into submission. That accomplishes nothing.

Some folks think a CBJ celebrating Disney IP is new and exciting. Great. Others disagree and see it as a cynical vehicle for over-promoting Disney IP. Great. Both are opinions. And anyone who holds either opinion should feel free to express it.

 

[Moth]

So, we're one hundred percent sure they AREN'T adding in any actual IP characters a la Under New Management Tiki Room, right?

I heard stuff. I'm leaning towards no, but I've heard about one bear who may talk about the necessities of life. But that was awhile back. Recently heard no IP characters.

 

[lazyboy97o]

So you’re convinced that the 30-second clip shared on social media was the master recording and final mix for the actual animatronic bear show?

Are you convinced that they wasted time and money to create a completely different arrangement for a 30 second social media post that has no relation to the actual attraction they are advertising?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Why can’t they state that they think a song in a musical based attraction won’t fit?

They can state whatever they want, and people will react accordingly. In your example, anything they guess would be pointless because the finished product hasn’t been presented in context.

All threads on this website would be very dead if we could only discuss opened attractions and give no speculation or thoughts on information released.

All threads? Stop.

And I think my imagination is quite alright thanks.

Never said otherwise. Do you often internalize posts made about others?

However if we have to imagine how things will fit and not just simply see how they fit I’d question whether they do fit.

Of course we have to imagine because they don’t exist yet!

How many people said, “Oh, that Moana walk-through sounds pointless.” Their imagination only took them so far. Then when it was finished, many said, “Oh, I like the way they did it.”

Well. It’s very possible the new CBJ will be greater than the sum of its parts. Perhaps they will use a certain song in a certain context that will make it turn out better than what certain people are thinking in their heads.

It happens all the time. The people complaining are not imagineers. The people imagineering are. Do they always nail it? Maybe not, but they also know more than we do about restrictions, requirements, conditions handed down from higher up, etc. So, again, I give them the benefit of the doubt until I experience the attraction for myself.

And I would see a therapist if it prompted me to write a tirade as if I know how to run their company better than they do, while I have no experience redesigning the best theme park in the world.

It’s interesting to me that you felt the need to jump in and vociferously defend the Negativity Brigade - people working each other up into a frenzy in a dramatic echo chamber serving no purpose (it’s not going to change the trajectory of anything.)

So which is worse, negative posts about changes to the parks, or posts expressing nothing but negativity over the negativity in others' posts?

Thats an easy one.

 

[_caleb]

Are you convinced that they wasted time and money to create a completely different arrangement for a 30 second social media post that has no relation to the actual attraction they are advertising?

The clip wasn’t really enough for me to know for certain. But to me, it didn’t sound like a recording the voice of a bear singing to be used in an animatronics show.

I speculate that what we hear in then clip is for a studio recorded version for radio/streaming.

Especially compared to the recent clip they posted of Anika Noni Rose singing the new Special Spice song for TBA. That one sounded like the split track that isolated her voice so WDI can make it sound like the voice is coming from the Tiana AA.

 

[_caleb]

So one can only love hype rather than wonder or question what it will be like?

Surely you can see the difference between “The negativity is thick here, and I don’t care for it.” and “Everyone can only love hype rather than wonder or question.”

I’m not telling anyone what to do. I’m saying I don’t understand or care for posts where people say they don’t like things we haven’t even seen yet.

The other poster having their opinion leading you to insulting them, even again at the end of this quoted post is very telling.
Unacceptable. Even if you don't see it the same.way or disgree completely.

I’d encourage you to re-read @Tony the Tigger’s post again. I didn’t read it as an insult of any particular person, but as “maybe posters who complain about not being able to see how something WDI is doing might work just don’t have enough imagination to get it until they experience it.”

 

[lazyboy97o]

The clip wasn’t really enough for me to know for certain. But to me, it didn’t sound like a recording the voice of a bear singing to be used in an animatronics show.

I speculate that what we hear in then clip is for a studio recorded version for radio/streaming.

Especially compared to the recent clip they posted of Anika Noni Rose singing the new Special Spice song for TBA. That one sounded like the split track that isolated her voice so WDI can make it sound like the voice is coming from the Tiana AA.

Surely you can see the difference between “The negativity is thick here, and I don’t care for it.” and “Everyone can only love hype rather than wonder or question.”

You just concocted a whole alternate explanation for an ad to avoid addressing criticism that is directly related to the nature of the show and the information as it was actually presented.

 

[Moth]

I hope Big Al still has stuff to do in this show. He's my favorite.