Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Prince-1

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Again, another discussion which is actually related, somewhat, to the topic (and was interesting to many people) has started to dominate the discussion.
So, I think we can put "the Mayo is laying off people" topic to rest - thank you to those who have added more info to help us understand the decision, and to those who have voiced their concerns. As much as I like the Mayo (my husband has had two joint replacements there) it's time to move on.

I like the Mayo on rye with some nice pastrami.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Again, another discussion which is actually related, somewhat, to the topic (and was interesting to many people) has started to dominate the discussion.
So, I think we can put "the Mayo is laying off people" topic to rest - thank you to those who have added more info to help us understand the decision, and to those who have voiced their concerns. As much as I like the Mayo (my husband has had two joint replacements there) it's time to move on.

Perhaps you should provide better guidelines on what is and what is not permitted in this thread? I was pretty interested in the various answers being given.
 

MisterPenguin

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So what do you think Disney would do? Make masks mandatory but not allow in children under a certain age? Which would just be ridiculous for Disney, of all places! Or make it mandatory for everyone over a certain age, but then wouldn’t that defeat the purpose? Or not require them at all but just highly recommend them?

Disney could definitely get by without toddlers and infants, financially. The MK is constantly overcrowded. A 20% drop in attendance for a while wouldn't take away its profitability.

Yes, I know it's shocking to think that *Disney* would never do such a thing to *children*!

Well... Disney's doing such a thing to children right now by being shut down. How many toddlers and infants have been to a Disney park this month?

If on the way to returning to normal (and a vaccine) means everyone must continue to wear face masks in public (for a while), except for toddlers and infants because they just can't. Then any business (if not by government decree) can ban the maskless tots from their place of business. It's not like a two year old can't wait until there's a vaccine and go when they're three.
 

TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives

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Disney could definitely get by without toddlers and infants, financially. The MK is constantly overcrowded. A 20% drop in attendance for a while wouldn't take away its profitability.

Yes, I know it's shocking to think that *Disney* would never do such a thing to *children*!

Well... Disney's doing such a thing to children right now by being shut down. How many toddlers and infants have been to a Disney park this month?

If on the way to returning to normal (and a vaccine) means everyone must continue to wear face masks in public (for a while), except for toddlers and infants because they just can't. Then any business (if not by government decree) can ban the maskless tots from their place of business. It's not like a two year old can't wait until there's a vaccine and go when they're three.

That seems rather extreme, especially banning anyone with young children (or people in general) who can't keep their mask on. You're alienating families across the board in that regards and I imagine that's going to be a tough pill to swallow on both sides (businesses + families) to allow to move forward.
 

MisterPenguin

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That seems rather extreme, especially banning anyone with young children (or people in general) who can't keep their mask on. You're alienating families across the board in that regards and I imagine that's going to be a tough pill to swallow on both sides (businesses + families) to allow to move forward.

That might be the governmental reality before true normalization. [Which is just a possible scenario.]

And, remember, governments right now have shut down a lot of places families usually bring their tots. And it's happening already. Right now. Can't bring them to the playground. It's closed. Can't bring them to the beach or boardwalks. They're closed.

If they determine that masks are the only way to start to bring things back online, then anyone who can't wear a mask will have to continue to isolate, no matter what the personal cost, even if it means the two-year old's parents can't find a sitter so they can go to WDW.
 

Lilofan

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So if someone gets Covid and dies... They can sue all the Disney guests that didn't wear a mask?

Remember.... wearing a mask doesn't protect the mask-wearer. Wearing a mask protects everyone the mask-wearer is near.

You may as well say, "people can smoke... but if anyone gets sick from second-hand smoker, they can hold the smoker responsible!"
Disney legal team will reprint the fine print hardly anyone ever reads regarding liability.
 

Lilofan

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Between security and animal care there’s not much left for maintenance. I would have thought at least 200 just for security with 30+ hotels, 4 parks, 2 water parks, Disney Springs and all of the behind the scenes buildings. It’s a lot to protect.
The 200 "essential" staff includes entertainment techs, lifeguards, costuming, bus drivers, custodial, attractions and resorts housekeeping which are represented by the Services Trade Council of 43K cast members according to 13 News Orlando. This while important is a needle in a haystack to maintain the " upkeep " of the entire parks and resorts of WDW. It would not surprise me if some guests along with cast members would be cleaning and disinfecting as you go when the park and resorts re-open. I would be bringing some baby wipes in my backpack.
 

GoofGoof

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Disney could definitely get by without toddlers and infants, financially. The MK is constantly overcrowded. A 20% drop in attendance for a while wouldn't take away its profitability.

Yes, I know it's shocking to think that *Disney* would never do such a thing to *children*!

Well... Disney's doing such a thing to children right now by being shut down. How many toddlers and infants have been to a Disney park this month?

If on the way to returning to normal (and a vaccine) means everyone must continue to wear face masks in public (for a while), except for toddlers and infants because they just can't. Then any business (if not by government decree) can ban the maskless tots from their place of business. It's not like a two year old can't wait until there's a vaccine and go when they're three.
That seems rather extreme, especially banning anyone with young children (or people in general) who can't keep their mask on. You're alienating families across the board in that regards and I imagine that's going to be a tough pill to swallow on both sides (businesses + families) to allow to move forward.
Disney is never going to ”ban” any age group or demographic. It won’t happen. IMHO Disney will not mandate masks for their parks without the state of Florida mandating masks in public. If the state (or much more unlikely the federal government) mandates it then Disney will point to the government requirement. Many people with infants or toddlers will avoid the place on their own in that case since toddlers can’t keep a mask on, some will show up anyway with a baby in a mask that won’t stay on. I don’t think Disney will suddenly change from their passive aggressive handling of guests. This is the company that put chips on drink cups to avoid CMs having to confront people stealing from their hotels. The last thing they want or need is a CM arguing with a set of parents over whether their toddler can come into the MK.
 

Nemo14

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natatomic

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Disney could definitely get by without toddlers and infants, financially. The MK is constantly overcrowded. A 20% drop in attendance for a while wouldn't take away its profitability.

Yes, I know it's shocking to think that *Disney* would never do such a thing to *children*!

Well... Disney's doing such a thing to children right now by being shut down. How many toddlers and infants have been to a Disney park this month?

If on the way to returning to normal (and a vaccine) means everyone must continue to wear face masks in public (for a while), except for toddlers and infants because they just can't. Then any business (if not by government decree) can ban the maskless tots from their place of business. It's not like a two year old can't wait until there's a vaccine and go when they're three.

Good Lord, I hope not. That’s not just banning babies and toddlers, that’s banning their entire families from returning to public. Logistically, I doubt that would work.
 

lilypgirl

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I wonder how many are going to be able to get back to work (those that haven't lost their job) in June, July, Aug....and then immediately put in for a week vacation. I think that's going to be one issue. The other obviously as you stated will be the ramp up period to where everyone starting to feel comfortable with flying/traveling internationally (and domestically in some cases). We are going back to the weekend stay-cation where the comfort level may be driving 100-200 miles.
I know for my family that is traveling together in July those of us who work are all still working so the time off and money won't be much of an issue. There are 15 of us total ranging in ages from 4-74 and everyone is still on board if Disney will be up and operating at that time.
 
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