Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[peter11435]

Because tourism is such a big part of Florida’s economy I’m not sure they would mandate masks because it would definitely deter a lot of people from visiting. For the health of residents it’s probably better if people didn’t converge on the state for vacations, but it would be devastating for the economy. Definitely a double edged sword.

I’m not saying Disney will mandate masks. Although they do currently at the Shanghai Disney Resort but that’s a very different situation. But right now masks are mandatory when in public in Osceola county which is home to parts of WDW. Obviously that will likely be lifted long before Disney is in a position to reopen.

The point is really that the poster I was quoting really should wear a mask and might soon be forced to. At the very least they shouldn’t brag about not doing so.

 

[lilypgirl]

I just wish someone would ask at one of the press conferences. I mean if asking a question about Joe Exotic is acceptable why not when can big FL theme parks reopen should be OK. Right?

 

[Clamman73]

This ad shows up on this thread for some reason lol

 

[GoofGoof]

I’m not saying Disney will mandate masks. Although they do currently at the Shanghai Disney Resort but that’s a very different situation. But right now masks are mandatory when in public in Osceola county which is home to parts of WDW. Obviously that will likely be lifted long before Disney is in a position to reopen.

The point is really that the poster I was quoting really should wear a mask and might soon be forced to. At the very least they shouldn’t brag about not doing so.

Got it. I thought you meant they would be mandatory when the park opens. I agree Disney won’t likely mandate masks unless the state does. It’s still too soon to know what the requirements will be once things open up. I just think mandating masks long term for Florida will be a tough sell considering the tourism there revolves around the beaches and theme parks where masks are not very practical.

 

[The Mom]

This ad shows up on this thread for some reason lol
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Pretty useless. If they were longer and wider, and worn in conjunction with a face mask, they might be more effective than a face mask alone. But not the other way around - maybe just a tiny bit more effective than no mask at all (depends upon how you hold your head if someone coughs on you, direction of cough origin, etc) but hardly worth the effort and cost.

 

[Communicora]

My state felt the IHME model was too optimistic and doesn't go out far enough, so we have our own developed by our department of health in conjunction with the state university. I know other states did the same. I imagine big corporations like Disney are also looking at various models or even making their own.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

This ad shows up on this thread for some reason lol
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Pretty useless. If they were longer and wider, and worn in conjunction with a face mask, they might be more effective than a face mask alone. But not the other way around - maybe just a tiny bit more effective than no mask at all (depends upon how you hold your head if someone coughs on you, direction of cough origin, etc) but hardly worth the effort and cost.

Since I've been paying attention, I've seen ads for similar hats for both men and women from 3 different sites. Needless to say, I'll never be shopping at any of them based on their desire to peddle ineffective "protection" during a crisis.

 

[Polynesia]

It looks like the US has peaked. Florida unfortunately is still a couple weeks out. Link in signature.

I saw that. They keep moving the date around for Florida. I guess we’ll see as the days go by what the actual peak date is

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I saw that. They keep moving the date around for Florida. I guess we’ll see as the days go by what the actual peak date is

MA hasn't peaked yet - not until April 26th.

 

[Kevin_W]

And to think Michael Jackson started the face mask fad in the 1980s way before coronatimes. If they are wearing a facemask, gotta be famous!

 

[Kevin_W]

I hadn't noticed the University of Washington had updated their model again on Friday evening. Another revision downwards of ~10% in total beds needed and ICU cases as well. And according to them, we're past the peak of beds needed. This is what most of the politicians started saying Friday, so it seems they still refer to this model quite a bit.

 

[Lilofan]

It looks like the US has peaked. Florida unfortunately is still a couple weeks out. Link in signature.

That's not good for Florida. Can't see Florida open up for business or the school system anytime soon.

 

[Calmdownnow]

On bbc news this morning scientists believe a vaccine will be ready to use by autumn this year

Will that be the same UK govt scientists that persuaded the civil servants to spend a fortune on millions of anti-body tests that don't work? (Apparently, the tests can tell if you have coronavirus anti-bodies, but can't tell which coronavirus, so you could have anti-bodies to the common cold, or the flu, but not COVID 19).

 

[Polynesia]

That's not good for Florida. Can't see Florida open up for business or the school system anytime soon.

I agree. School ends in mid May so I’d be apt to wanting to let it finish as it’s going now. The good news is when you look at the curve by June things look really good as long as we keep vigilant.

 

[Polynesia]

That's not good for Florida. Can't see Florida open up for business or the school system anytime soon.

I do think Florida will open up for business faster than some may expect with some precautions in place.

 

[Communicora]

Optimistic in what way? Overall and in most states the model has been overshooting the actual numbers for a few weeks now. They keep being revised down. Based on that I would think it was too pessimistic.

What is your state's model showing?



The data were last updated on Friday so we'll see what the next revision brings.

My state's peak is now forecasted for July. Here's a snippet from an article about why they disagree with the IHME model.

MDH officials have said they believe the oft-cited University of Washington model, which predicts fewer than 500 deaths for Minnesota, makes unrealistically optimistic assumptions about how well Americans’ success at social distancing and about the accuracy of death data from China.

The University of Washington model also only goes out four months, which means it doesn’t account for peaks MDH officials expect to see past that time period. The Minnesota model follows the course of the epidemic, which could be a year.

“We have to help people understand that this is not a one-time event,” Health Commissioner Jan Malcolm said Friday. “It isn’t you hit the peak and then everything goes back to normal. This is going to be with us in a really challenging way and multiple waves until there are treatments and a vaccine and that is just the hard reality that we also need to factor into this into this planning.”

ETA: The article describes the different scenarios they have been looking at.

Here’s what we know about Minnesota’s model for predicting the toll of COVID-19 - MinnPost

The model is designed to predict, in general terms, how different policies could change the rate of infection, giving the state more time to respond.

www.minnpost.com

 

[John park hopper]

SC is looking at peaking in 13 days still seeing a rise in cases, in my zip code 2 confirmed and 14 suspected hope it stays that way Models are only as good as the data you have and how well you set up the model leave out one variable and it changes the whole model

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

SC is looking at peaking in 13 days still seeing a rise in cases, in my zip code 2 confirmed and 14 suspected hope it stays that way Models are only as good as the data you have and how well you set up the model leave out one variable and it changes the whole model

Our governor, Henry McMaster, dragged his feet to finally issue a executive order to keep everyone home...but he found it important to make beer and wine “curbside to go” the first weekend of the crisis.

Glad that was a priority...only in SC.

 

[Incomudro]

Unfortunately, journalism has been reduced to “headline” news only...no one, or at least, only a few, actually report on context, and provide the reader some background on an issue.

I beleive they count on us not reading past the headlines.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

I beleive they count on us not reading past the headlines.

The main problem is that the reading level in this country is below that of a high school graduate...God forbid anyone read more than a typical Facebook post in word count...headlines get clicks.