Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Timmay]

Not sure whether to laugh or cry.

No, the COVID-19 vaccine, or any vaccine currently available for that matter, will not turn anyone into a zombie or a vampire.

‘I Am Legend’ screenwriter addresses false claims that COVID-19 vaccine could turn people into zombies

Akiva Goldman, a screenwriter who helped create the 2007 film “I Am Legend” went on Twitter to confirm the film is fiction.

www.wtsp.com

I have to say, I’m disappointed. I mean I just finished stocking up the old bunker this morning.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

You're the only free country with such a disasterous death rate ( not even considering excess mortality). The US has been an absolute failure when it comes the handling of COVID

This isn’t remotely true, the UK has a higher death rate, Spain has a higher death rate, the Czech Republic has a higher death rate… Belgium, Italy, Poland… all have higher death rates per 100,000, and that’s just in Europe. Many South American and Central American countries are higher also.

I’m not arguing we’ve done well but I can’t let such a blatantly untrue statement go unchecked.

 

[Timmay]

Are you serious?

what’s a good number?

why is that number going up now? With that tools and experience?

I simply asked for the numbers that show the US is the “only.” Please don’t make it anything other than that, because it’s not.

 

[correcaminos]

You’re an optimistic…we can’t get that morons over 18 done in 9 months…and they have cars

You misunderstood. I'm talking approval time and then those who want vaccinated will get it. Not for all to get jabbed. Basing this on the 12-17 info. Truthfully nothing more. The FDA took a few weeks to do adults. About 4 for the 12-17

 

[Chi84]

More And More Chicago Bars, Restaurants, And Other Businesses Are Requiring COVID-19 Vaccination For Entry,
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/08/15/more-chicago-bars-restaurants-proof-covid-19-vaccine/

 

[The Mrs]

For businesses requiring proof of vaccination for entry, what are they accepting as proof? Are they using the vaccination cards that are filled out when you get the shot? Do you have to have two doses listed on the card? Do people with one J&J dose count, or are we outcasts? Because that's kind of how I feel.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You misunderstood. I'm talking approval time and then those who want vaccinated will get it. Not for all to get jabbed. Basing this on the 12-17 info. Truthfully nothing more. The FDA took a few weeks to do adults. About 4 for the 12-17

Too slow…just my opinion and nothing else

 

[GoofGoof]

For businesses requiring proof of vaccination for entry, what are they accepting as proof? Are they using the vaccination cards that are filled out when you get the shot? Do you have to have two doses listed on the card? Do people with one J&J dose count, or are we outcasts? Because that's kind of how I feel.

JnJ definitely counts. You have to be 2 weeks past your 2nd shot for mRNA or 2 weeks past your only shot with JnJ. In NY they have a a statewide passport system and NYC is also rolling out their own version. You can use the app or show the actual vaccination card to get in. Here‘s a story on NYC

New York City launches vaccine passport

The NYC Covid Safe app is the new coronavirus vaccination app the city is rolling out for people to use to show they are vaccinated for indoor dining, gyms, and other places that will be forced to check.

www.fox5ny.com

 

[Timmay]

More And More Chicago Bars, Restaurants, And Other Businesses Are Requiring COVID-19 Vaccination For Entry,
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/08/15/more-chicago-bars-restaurants-proof-covid-19-vaccine/

Not quite far enough though. Still letting unvaccinated in with a mask in may cases if no proof of vaccination.

 

[Chi84]

Not quite far enough though. Still letting unvaccinated in with a mask in may cases if no proof of vaccination.

Not all of them. I expect they will be stricter when Illinois comes up with a better form of proof of vaccination. Right now, we still don’t have an app like New York.

 

[hopemax]

This may be worse than Golden Corral. But we have never seen Happily Ever After because we usually aren’t in the park this late

 

[GoofGoof]

Not quite far enough though. Still letting unvaccinated in with a mask in may cases if no proof of vaccination.

Not all of them. I expect they will be stricter when Illinois comes up with a better form of proof of vaccination. Right now, we still don’t have an app like New York.

It’s a step in the right direction for sure. I think the unvaccinated need to see things like this and come to the conclusion that they might as well just go get the shot now because they don’t want to be restricted going forward. It’s less about the effectiveness of the passport system and more about setting a tone and and expectation that if you exercise your free will and freedom to not get vaccinated there will be consequences and you will not be able to do everything you may want. I’d rather see a slightly imperfect system rolled out broadly than a more narrow rollout of a more effective system.

 

[correcaminos]

Too slow…just my opinion and nothing else

I'd rather be a hint slow than over dosing the kids. Read articles from phase 1 patients to see what happens. You may think it's slow, but all along it's been about safety. You may not like it, but they can't risk serious reactions on kids. To do so will cause failure of the vaccine to be used. More than we see now.

 

[GoofGoof]

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Yikes… count me out. I’ll watch from the beach at Poly It is an outdoor crowd at least but I’m not sure I am mentally prepared for that yet. Guess I’ll find out pretty soon

 

[Kman]

This isn’t remotely true, the UK has a higher death rate, Spain has a higher death rate, the Czech Republic has a higher death rate… Belgium, Italy, Poland… all have higher death rates per 100,000, and that’s just in Europe. Many South American and Central American countries are higher also.

I’m not arguing we’ve done well but I can’t let such a blatantly untrue statement go unchecked.

I need to reply and apologize. I should never used an absolute as I did when I said when I wrote "the only". That is completely a fair criticism. To say "one of" is far more accurate. Again, I apologize.

 

[Timmay]

Not all of them. I expect they will be stricter when Illinois comes up with a better form of proof of vaccination. Right now, we still don’t have an app like New York.

No, I hear you. I just think for metro areas hovering at the 50% fully vaccinated mark it’s time to pull the bandaid.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I simply asked for the numbers that show the US is the “only.” Please don’t make it anything other than that, because it’s not.

We’ve been a pretty catastrophic failure on the whole. I haven’t looked for “comps” for quite some time.

protect your own house.

I'd rather be a hint slow than over dosing the kids. Read articles from phase 1 patients to see what happens. You may think it's slow, but all along it's been about safety. You may not like it, but they can't risk serious reactions on kids. To do so will cause failure of the vaccine to be used. More than we see now.

I think thats an antiquated take on “the kids”…

or maybe I missed something? Is this vax more rough on the system? Has their been any discernible side effects detected?

 

[JoeCamel]

We’ve been a pretty catastrophic failure on the whole. I haven’t looked for “comps” for quite some time.

protect your own house.

I think thats an antiquated take on “the kids”…

or maybe I missed something? Is this vax more rough on the system? Has their been any discernible side effects detected?

Hate to do it but there is a mea culpa upthread

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Hate to do it but there is a mea culpa upthread

Where?

I’m not fired up about this…so you mea my culpa and I’ll by you dinner?

 

[JoeCamel]

I need to reply and apologize. I should never used an absolute as I did when I said when I wrote "the only". That is completely a fair criticism. To say "one of" is far more accurate. Again, I apologize.