This isn’t remotely true, the UK has a higher death rate, Spain has a higher death rate, the Czech Republic has a higher death rate… Belgium, Italy, Poland… all have higher death rates per 100,000, and that’s just in Europe. Many South American and Central American countries are higher also.
I simply asked for the numbers that show the US is the “only.” Please don’t make it anything other than that, because it’s not.
You misunderstood. I'm talking approval time and then those who want vaccinated will get it. Not for all to get jabbed. Basing this on the 12-17 info. Truthfully nothing more. The FDA took a few weeks to do adults. About 4 for the 12-17
Too slow…just my opinion and nothing else
JnJ definitely counts. You have to be 2 weeks past your 2nd shot for mRNA or 2 weeks past your only shot with JnJ. In NY they have a a statewide passport system and NYC is also rolling out their own version. You can use the app or show the actual vaccination card to get in. Here‘s a story on NYC
Not quite far enough though. Still letting unvaccinated in with a mask in may cases if no proof of vaccination.
Not all of them. I expect they will be stricter when Illinois comes up with a better form of proof of vaccination. Right now, we still don’t have an app like New York.
It’s a step in the right direction for sure. I think the unvaccinated need to see things like this and come to the conclusion that they might as well just go get the shot now because they don’t want to be restricted going forward. It’s less about the effectiveness of the passport system and more about setting a tone and and expectation that if you exercise your free will and freedom to not get vaccinated there will be consequences and you will not be able to do everything you may want. I’d rather see a slightly imperfect system rolled out broadly than a more narrow rollout of a more effective system.
I'd rather be a hint slow than over dosing the kids. Read articles from phase 1 patients to see what happens. You may think it's slow, but all along it's been about safety. You may not like it, but they can't risk serious reactions on kids. To do so will cause failure of the vaccine to be used. More than we see now.
Yikes… count me out. I’ll watch from the beach at Poly
It is an outdoor crowd at least but I’m not sure I am mentally prepared for that yet. Guess I’ll find out pretty soon 
No, I hear you. I just think for metro areas hovering at the 50% fully vaccinated mark it’s time to pull the bandaid.
We’ve been a pretty catastrophic failure on the whole. I haven’t looked for “comps” for quite some time.
I think thats an antiquated take on “the kids”…
Hate to do it but there is a mea culpa upthread
