Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[DisneyCane]

Few reported Covid infections after trial Barcelona gig

Six people out of 5,000 who attended an indoor trial concert last month in Barcelona reported testing positive for COVID-19 afterwards, organisers said on Tuesday, giving hope for the revival of the live music industry.

medicalxpress.com

I would think that mass screening and testing beforehand probably helped an awful lot. If almost nobody in attendance is infected, the chances of transmission will be quite low no matter what else is or isn't done for mitigation.

If it was financially or logistically viable to rapid test everybody (it is neither) before they enter a park at WDW, the risk of spread would be close to zero even operating under pre-COVID conditions.

 

[correcaminos]

I’ve just had a really odd idea! I presume that in the USA your vaccinations are free? If that is the case then let the people who are not vaccinated THROUGH CHOICE donate their vaccines to another country- probably India at the moment. Then if they change their mind they can still have a vaccine but have to pay for it. Obviously not too much but enough to make them think twice. The vaccine hesitant could lose their right to a vaccination 3 months after their age group opened up, with the doses again being donated. As before they could stlii have a dose but would have to pay for it. No idea whether this would be an incentive or disincentive but would welcome thoughts. As I said an odd idea!

I do believe we cannot just give vaccines away due to how deals were written with the makers. We can lend though.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Masks definitely work.

Few reported Covid infections after trial Barcelona gig

Six people out of 5,000 who attended an indoor trial concert last month in Barcelona reported testing positive for COVID-19 afterwards, organisers said on Tuesday, giving hope for the revival of the live music industry.

medicalxpress.com

Were any of them vaccinated? If so maybe it was that rather than masks?

 

[SorcererMC]

I would think that mass screening and testing beforehand probably helped an awful lot. If almost nobody in attendance is infected, the chances of transmission will be quite low no matter what else is or isn't done for mitigation.

If it was financially or logistically viable to rapid test everybody (it is neither) before they enter a park at WDW, the risk of spread would be close to zero even operating under pre-COVID conditions.

I don't see Disney going the route of requiring testing to enter a park, but it is possible.

COVID-19 Rapid Tests Now Available at Pharmacies

Three over-the-counter COVID-19 tests are now available at CVS, Walgreens, and Walmart pharmacies. Experts say the tests can help reduce COVID-19 spread.

www.healthline.com

 

[SorcererMC]

Were any of them vaccinated? If so maybe it was that rather than masks?

None were vaccinated. (It's in the article).

 

[Flugell]

We have free tests available to every over 18 and school children here in the U.K.. Results in 30 minutes. Available at chemists, doctors, libraries, town halls etc. Also available by post again with no cost.

 

[DisneyCane]

I don't see Disney going the route of requiring testing to enter a park, but it is possible.

COVID-19 Rapid Tests Now Available at Pharmacies

Three over-the-counter COVID-19 tests are now available at CVS, Walgreens, and Walmart pharmacies. Experts say the tests can help reduce COVID-19 spread.

www.healthline.com

The problems are the time it takes (even for a rapid test) and the cost. I think the rapid tests are over $200.

If COVID sniffing dogs worked well and quickly then maybe they could replace the temperature checks with dogs.

 

[ParentsOf4]

I'm still wondering why flu cases dropped. Does this mean masks protect us from the flu but not covid? Nursing homes have had outbreaks despite staff being required to wear masks. Do masks work? This is what I'd like to see some data on.

To me, this means:

• COVID is much more infectious than the flu. Hundreds of thousands of more would have died in the U.S. if we did not wear masks.
• Nursing homes did not take the necessary precautions early on. In other words, they did not take (for example) mask wearing and social distancing as seriously as they should have, until many thousands had been needlessly infected.

 

[DisneyFan32]

1)When we will get back to normal as we won't need masks and social distancing anymore and what month will be....? 2)Will cases will be low enough by fall/winter? 3)Is chance there won't be outbreaks/spikes anymore if cases are low enough as many people are vaccinated by fall/winter?

 

[ParentsOf4]

I don't see Disney going the route of requiring testing to enter a park, but it is possible.

COVID-19 Rapid Tests Now Available at Pharmacies

Three over-the-counter COVID-19 tests are now available at CVS, Walgreens, and Walmart pharmacies. Experts say the tests can help reduce COVID-19 spread.

www.healthline.com

One idea I wish would happen (but never will) is that WDW requires proof of vaccination once they eliminate mask requirements.

Then keep this in place until further guidance from the CDC.

It's never going to happen but it would encourage some to get vaccinated.

 

[DisneyCane]

It's been a while since I generated a chart like this. Here is the new cases by age in FL from 4/23-4/29. To the right of the first vertical line is 40+ and to the right of the second vertical line is 65+. They actual have a case in a 110 year old which may have been a data entry error. The chart is far from shocking but it clearly illustrates a much lower relative number of infections in the groups that are vaccinated at higher rates. 65+ is at 83.7% with at least the first shot based on my calculations.

65+ accounts for 7.7% of total new cases in this period and represents approximately 20.5% of the population.

 

[GhostHost1000]

None were vaccinated. (It's in the article).

I also wonder how many people have had covid, contain then antibodies and never knew it. That would be a factor as well including getting to herd immunity in the US

 

[GhostHost1000]

1)When we will get back to normal as we won't need masks and social distancing anymore and what month will be....? 2)Will cases will be low enough by fall/winter? 3)Is chance there won't be outbreaks/spikes anymore if cases are low enough as many people are vaccinated by fall/winter?

No one knows.

 

[drizgirl]

It's been a while since I generated a chart like this. Here is the new cases by age in FL from 4/23-4/29. To the right of the first vertical line is 40+ and to the right of the second vertical line is 65+. They actual have a case in a 110 year old which may have been a data entry error. The chart is far from shocking but it clearly illustrates a much lower relative number of infections in the groups that are vaccinated at higher rates. 65+ is at 83.7% with at least the first shot based on my calculations.

65+ accounts for 7.7% of total new cases in this period and represents approximately 20.5% of the population.

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That's pure cases though? Not cases per 1000 or some such metric? I don't doubt this would be the case given the vaccine acceptance so far, but it's hard to put it in true perspective with pure numbers.

 

[SorcererMC]

I also wonder how many people have had covid, contain then antibodies and never knew it. That would be a factor as well including getting to herd immunity in the US

Here's the CDC's Seroprevalence Tracker for surveys from commercial labs, over time. Much higher estimated rates in some areas than others.

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

 

[DisneyCane]

That's pure cases though? Not cases per 1000 or some such metric? I don't doubt this would be the case given the vaccine acceptance so far, but it's hard to put it in true perspective with pure numbers.

I couldn't figure out a great way to normalize it since I don't know the population by every age. The population by decade is relatively consistent from 5-84 (+/- 10% or so) so using raw numbers is pretty illustrative.

 

[DCBaker]

MCO has apparently moved to 3 feet for distancing -

 

[GhostHost1000]

MCO has apparently moved to 3 feet for distancing -

does anyone think 3ft makes that much of a difference? 3ft is actually very little distance and feels more like safety theater because they didn’t want to say no more social distancing

 

[themarchhare]

does anyone think 3ft makes that much of a difference? 3ft is actually very little distance and feels more like safety theater because they didn’t want to say no more social distancing

I like it just because people are less likely to be all up on me in line LOL

 

[mickeymiss]

does anyone think 3ft makes that much of a difference? 3ft is actually very little distance and feels more like safety theater because they didn’t want to say no more social distancing

6 feet feels close range to me sometimes especially when someone coughs or sneezes indoors. Disney is completely different than the general community. I don't really feel like controlling social distancing with stickers is necessary at a grocery store at this stage or anywhere people naturally spread out. Disney lines can keep you in one stuffy place for up to 90 minutes or more. I'd rather space out somewhere like that. I can see it from both ends but ultimately I see the benefit of this large theme park playing it safer than other businesses.