Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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correcaminos

correcaminos

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Flugell said:
I’ve just had a really odd idea! I presume that in the USA your vaccinations are free? If that is the case then let the people who are not vaccinated THROUGH CHOICE donate their vaccines to another country- probably India at the moment. Then if they change their mind they can still have a vaccine but have to pay for it. Obviously not too much but enough to make them think twice. The vaccine hesitant could lose their right to a vaccination 3 months after their age group opened up, with the doses again being donated. As before they could stlii have a dose but would have to pay for it. No idea whether this would be an incentive or disincentive but would welcome thoughts. As I said an odd idea!
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I do believe we cannot just give vaccines away due to how deals were written with the makers. We can lend though.
 
SorcererMC

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DisneyCane said:
I would think that mass screening and testing beforehand probably helped an awful lot. If almost nobody in attendance is infected, the chances of transmission will be quite low no matter what else is or isn't done for mitigation.

If it was financially or logistically viable to rapid test everybody (it is neither) before they enter a park at WDW, the risk of spread would be close to zero even operating under pre-COVID conditions.
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I don't see Disney going the route of requiring testing to enter a park, but it is possible.
www.healthline.com

COVID-19 Rapid Tests Now Available at Pharmacies

Three over-the-counter COVID-19 tests are now available at CVS, Walgreens, and Walmart pharmacies. Experts say the tests can help reduce COVID-19 spread.
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DisneyCane

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SorcererMC said:
I don't see Disney going the route of requiring testing to enter a park, but it is possible.
www.healthline.com

COVID-19 Rapid Tests Now Available at Pharmacies

Three over-the-counter COVID-19 tests are now available at CVS, Walgreens, and Walmart pharmacies. Experts say the tests can help reduce COVID-19 spread.
www.healthline.com www.healthline.com
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The problems are the time it takes (even for a rapid test) and the cost. I think the rapid tests are over $200.

If COVID sniffing dogs worked well and quickly then maybe they could replace the temperature checks with dogs.
 
ParentsOf4

ParentsOf4

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mickeymiss said:
I'm still wondering why flu cases dropped. Does this mean masks protect us from the flu but not covid? Nursing homes have had outbreaks despite staff being required to wear masks. Do masks work? This is what I'd like to see some data on.
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To me, this means:
  • COVID is much more infectious than the flu. Hundreds of thousands of more would have died in the U.S. if we did not wear masks.
  • Nursing homes did not take the necessary precautions early on. In other words, they did not take (for example) mask wearing and social distancing as seriously as they should have, until many thousands had been needlessly infected.
 
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DisneyFan32

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1)When we will get back to normal as we won't need masks and social distancing anymore and what month will be....? 2)Will cases will be low enough by fall/winter? 3)Is chance there won't be outbreaks/spikes anymore if cases are low enough as many people are vaccinated by fall/winter?
 
ParentsOf4

ParentsOf4

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SorcererMC said:
I don't see Disney going the route of requiring testing to enter a park, but it is possible.
www.healthline.com

COVID-19 Rapid Tests Now Available at Pharmacies

Three over-the-counter COVID-19 tests are now available at CVS, Walgreens, and Walmart pharmacies. Experts say the tests can help reduce COVID-19 spread.
www.healthline.com www.healthline.com
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One idea I wish would happen (but never will) is that WDW requires proof of vaccination once they eliminate mask requirements.

Then keep this in place until further guidance from the CDC.

It's never going to happen but it would encourage some to get vaccinated.
 
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DisneyCane

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It's been a while since I generated a chart like this. Here is the new cases by age in FL from 4/23-4/29. To the right of the first vertical line is 40+ and to the right of the second vertical line is 65+. They actual have a case in a 110 year old which may have been a data entry error. The chart is far from shocking but it clearly illustrates a much lower relative number of infections in the groups that are vaccinated at higher rates. 65+ is at 83.7% with at least the first shot based on my calculations.

65+ accounts for 7.7% of total new cases in this period and represents approximately 20.5% of the population.

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drizgirl

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DisneyCane said:
It's been a while since I generated a chart like this. Here is the new cases by age in FL from 4/23-4/29. To the right of the first vertical line is 40+ and to the right of the second vertical line is 65+. They actual have a case in a 110 year old which may have been a data entry error. The chart is far from shocking but it clearly illustrates a much lower relative number of infections in the groups that are vaccinated at higher rates. 65+ is at 83.7% with at least the first shot based on my calculations.

65+ accounts for 7.7% of total new cases in this period and represents approximately 20.5% of the population.

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That's pure cases though? Not cases per 1000 or some such metric? I don't doubt this would be the case given the vaccine acceptance so far, but it's hard to put it in true perspective with pure numbers.
 
SorcererMC

SorcererMC

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GhostHost1000 said:
I also wonder how many people have had covid, contain then antibodies and never knew it. That would be a factor as well including getting to herd immunity in the US
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Here's the CDC's Seroprevalence Tracker for surveys from commercial labs, over time. Much higher estimated rates in some areas than others.
covid.cdc.gov

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.
covid.cdc.gov
 
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DisneyCane

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drizgirl said:
That's pure cases though? Not cases per 1000 or some such metric? I don't doubt this would be the case given the vaccine acceptance so far, but it's hard to put it in true perspective with pure numbers.
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I couldn't figure out a great way to normalize it since I don't know the population by every age. The population by decade is relatively consistent from 5-84 (+/- 10% or so) so using raw numbers is pretty illustrative.
 
mickeymiss

mickeymiss

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GhostHost1000 said:
does anyone think 3ft makes that much of a difference? 3ft is actually very little distance and feels more like safety theater because they didn’t want to say no more social distancing
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6 feet feels close range to me sometimes especially when someone coughs or sneezes indoors. Disney is completely different than the general community. I don't really feel like controlling social distancing with stickers is necessary at a grocery store at this stage or anywhere people naturally spread out. Disney lines can keep you in one stuffy place for up to 90 minutes or more. I'd rather space out somewhere like that. I can see it from both ends but ultimately I see the benefit of this large theme park playing it safer than other businesses.
 
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