SEMANTICS. The rest of us knew what havoc315 meant.
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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion
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DisneyCane
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I'm pretty sure havoc means something different than you do.
Yes, like measles and polio still exist. That’s where we could quickly be within a couple months— where Covid is as common a threat as polio, mumps, measles.
Whatever, man. I'm pretty sure havoc and I are on the same page with this one.
Heppenheimer
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I wonder how many of the "mah freedom" crowd have read what some of the Founders thought about the necessity of civic virtue as the foundation that makes freedoms possible. In short... its similar to what our parents would tell us about how we're expected to show greater responsibility with more expanded rights.
willtravel
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I wonder why Moderna and Pfizer does not want to join the study with J&J and Astrazeneca on maybe blood clots from there vaccine? I would think it would help people who now may have the jitters from these vaccines getting a vaccine. Never thought about it but since these vaccines are not FDA approved we all are like case studies. No one knows for sure what is going to happen.
Well, that's been clear from day one -- much to the chagrin of folks who said it was definitely ending in two weeks. But I do agree that Moderna and Pfizer should join the study.
GoofGoof
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It does frighten we a little when we hear numbers like less than 10,000 cases a day in the US or less than 100 deaths a day thrown around as targets for when we can see a return to normal and FL alone is almost hitting those numbers with only 6.5% of the population
JoeCamel
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Totally different tech
Oh, thanks - I wasn't aware.
danlb_2000
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How much "movement" has there been in those top two age brackets recently?
Less than 20,000 cases a day was cause for celebration as I recall.It does frighten we a little when we hear numbers like less than 10,000 cases a day in the US or less than 100 deaths a day thrown around as targets for when we can see a return to normal and FL alone is almost hitting those numbers with only 6.5% of the population
Jrb1979
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It's why I don't get why everyone keeps focusing on a summer date that probably isn't coming. Masks and social distancing is going to be around longer then people want or think. It's why many say vaccine passports are the way ahead. Doesn't have to be a government mandate but I hope many businesses go for it.It does frighten we a little when we hear numbers like less than 10,000 cases a day in the US or less than 100 deaths a day thrown around as targets for when we can see a return to normal and FL alone is almost hitting those numbers with only 6.5% of the population
Because May 2020, June 2020, July 2020, August 2020, etc. were dates that also worked for them. I only harp on this as a means of explaining how history continues to repeat itself.
correcaminos
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Two words. Spring break. Ohioan here. While cases are up they are not massively up. Actually less of a spike than I expected.
JoeCamel
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The AZ and J&J are viral vector tech like a flu shot but the Pfizer and Moderna are mRNA tech so they induce immunity in different manners. It is not uncommon for viral vector vaccines to have blood clotting but these clots are a different type than what has been seen in the past hence the warnings to health care not to hit this with heparin as normal.
willtravel
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I would still like to know. Would not hurt. They would have nothing to loose if they did.
GoofGoof
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The Summer dates are based on the vaccine rollout. If the vaccines work as advertised (Which they definitely do) there is a lot of hope that the cases come down once we hit enough people vaccinated. FL is still at only 36% of the total population vaccinated so I wouldn’t expect cases to plummet yet, but they have plateaued at a pretty high level which isn’t great. Vaccine passports are only a plan B if the vaccine rollout fails.
Freedom does not, and should not, mean freedom from responsibility.
JoeCamel
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How many shots have gone into arms of the mRNA type and how many adverse incidents (clotting)? I have only heard of the allergic reactions, is there anything to study here? Hundreds of millions of doses given,
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