Polkadotdress
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M-kay. News this morning reports that the WHO is stating herd immunity won't be reached until 2021.
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Kevin_W
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I think you mean "won't be reached in 2021".
They are talking world-wide. And while we should all have the global interest at heart, I'm somewhat selfish in that right now I mostly care about my country/state/community.
Disney Glimpses
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Assuming you meant 2022. Worldwide, that makes sense. Developed countries could see it in 2021 though.
Heppenheimer
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If anyone is interested in the reports of anaphylaxis in the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, here's probably the most authoritative source at the moment, from the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report:
www.cdc.gov
If you don't want to sift through what is a rather technical article, here's the key points. The most up-to-date, complete data comes from 14-23 December, so this is only very preliminary reporting and expect the numbers to change as we accumulate more data. For the period covered by this data, there were 21 reported cases of anaphylaxis to the vaccine, out of 1.893 million doses given, which calculates to a rate of 11.1 cases per million. Right now, it is too early to compare this rate to other, more well-established vaccines.
The majority of anaphylactic reactions (71%) occurred within 15 minutes of receiving the vaccine and all occurred within 30 minutes. No deaths occurred, and 20 of the 21 were confirmed completely recovered after receiving the appropriate treatment (the data on the remaining patient was not complete). 4 of the cases required brief hospital stays, the remainder were treated and released from the ER. 17 of the 21 had a previous history of some kind of allergy, and 7 had a previous history of anaphylaxis.
There were also 83 cases of minor allergic reactions. No information on their status beyond that, but we can probably assume that didn't require an ER or hospital visit.
Some of the caveats noted include that this data relied on passive reporting, although the article notes that given the media attention and heightened awareness about potential reactions, an anaphylactic reaction to the new COVID vaccines is probably more likely to be sent through the Vaccine Adverse Reaction Reporting System (VAERS) than for existing vaccines, which typically do not receive as much scrutiny. Also, whereas the reports to VAERS were verified to have been sent promptly, overall data on the number of vaccines distributed has lagged, so if you look at the rate of anaphylaxis per number of vaccines, the denominator is more likely to be an under-report at any given point in time than the numerator. This may overestimate the rate of anaphylaxis.
Allergic Reactions Including Anaphylaxis...
As of January 3, 2021, a total of 20,346,372 cases of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and 349,246 associated deaths have been reported in the United States.
www.cdc.gov
If you don't want to sift through what is a rather technical article, here's the key points. The most up-to-date, complete data comes from 14-23 December, so this is only very preliminary reporting and expect the numbers to change as we accumulate more data. For the period covered by this data, there were 21 reported cases of anaphylaxis to the vaccine, out of 1.893 million doses given, which calculates to a rate of 11.1 cases per million. Right now, it is too early to compare this rate to other, more well-established vaccines.
The majority of anaphylactic reactions (71%) occurred within 15 minutes of receiving the vaccine and all occurred within 30 minutes. No deaths occurred, and 20 of the 21 were confirmed completely recovered after receiving the appropriate treatment (the data on the remaining patient was not complete). 4 of the cases required brief hospital stays, the remainder were treated and released from the ER. 17 of the 21 had a previous history of some kind of allergy, and 7 had a previous history of anaphylaxis.
There were also 83 cases of minor allergic reactions. No information on their status beyond that, but we can probably assume that didn't require an ER or hospital visit.
Some of the caveats noted include that this data relied on passive reporting, although the article notes that given the media attention and heightened awareness about potential reactions, an anaphylactic reaction to the new COVID vaccines is probably more likely to be sent through the Vaccine Adverse Reaction Reporting System (VAERS) than for existing vaccines, which typically do not receive as much scrutiny. Also, whereas the reports to VAERS were verified to have been sent promptly, overall data on the number of vaccines distributed has lagged, so if you look at the rate of anaphylaxis per number of vaccines, the denominator is more likely to be an under-report at any given point in time than the numerator. This may overestimate the rate of anaphylaxis.
Kevin_W
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Who is "the US" in this context? Operation Warp Speed? CDC? Survey of general populous?
Communicora
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sullyinMT
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Awesome! WDW still has plenty of space going unused. I’d love to see them do this exact thing. WWoS?"Orange County is launching its first large COVID-19 vaccination site at Disneyland Resort in Anaheim later this week, officials announced Monday.
The location is one of five in the county labeled as a “Point-of-Dispensing” site, or a “Super POD,” and each will have the capacity to vaccinate thousands of resident each day, county officials said in a news release.
“The Disneyland Resort, the largest employer in the heart of Orange County, has stepped up to host the county’s first Super POD site – undertaking a monumental task in our vaccination distribution process,” said Chairman of the Orange County Board of Supervisors Andrew Do.
The county said it will announce the location of the other “Super PODs” as agreements are finalized. The intent is to increase efficiency and provide multiple vaccine distribution points throughout Orange County, officials said.
Vaccine distribution in California is managed through a phased, tiered approach."
Disneyland Resort in Anaheim to house COVID-19 vaccination ‘super’ site
Orange County is launching its first large COVID-19 vaccination site at Disneyland Resort in Anaheim later this week, officials announced Monday. The location is one of five in the county labeled a…ktla.com
Disney Glimpses
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This is why: As of Monday at 9 a.m. ET, more than 25.4 million doses had been distributed across the U.S., but just over 8.9 million shots of Pfizer or Moderna’s two-dose vaccines have been administered, according to data compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
JoeCamel
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So far the problem is not vac sites or demand, got to have it to give it.
sullyinMT
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Hopefully that changes soon. Recent updates are that the federal stockpile/reserve will be released for distribution either immediately of over the next two weeks. If an area is truly at 0 doses, they should be receiving a lot more very soon.
Also, good on that area for being 100% effective! As long as future allotment prioritizes dose 2 on time.
Polkadotdress
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AARGH! I just made the classic "new year date confusion" mistake, thinking that we are IN 2020, and next year (12 months from now) is 2021.
Carry on.
Polkadotdress
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The local news channel is trying to get answers as to the 1 million unused vaccine doses that are currently "somewhere" in FL. So, while releasing all the extra federal doses seems like a good thing, we still aren't even using everything we've been given, and local vaccine clinics are not able to meet the demand as they simply haven't been allocated enough. From the article: Flagler Cty has only received 1700 total doses, and Orange Cty has 24,000, which is earmarked for the next 2 weeks.
What a logistical mess.
1 million doses of vaccines unused in Florida, CDC data shows
According to data released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Monday afternoon, of the more than 1.6 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines given to the state of Florida, only about 633,000 have been administered.
www.clickorlando.com
JoeCamel
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And it looked like they had a 50-50 chance of getting this right ...... I'll see later today if I can get a dose tomorrow out of the delayed rollout in my county, no waiting list for this one only appointments Yeah, they are starting the first doses tomorrow in this county....... first....The local news channel is trying to get answers as to the 1 million unused vaccine doses that are currently "somewhere" in FL. So, while releasing all the extra federal doses seems like a good thing, we still aren't even using everything we've been given, and local vaccine clinics are not able to meet the demand as they simply haven't been allocated enough. From the article: Flagler Cty has only received 1700 total doses, and Orange Cty has 24,000, which is earmarked for the next 2 weeks.
What a logistical mess.
1 million doses of vaccines unused in Florida, CDC data shows
According to data released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Monday afternoon, of the more than 1.6 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines given to the state of Florida, only about 633,000 have been administered.
GoofGoof
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Good stuff. Just to reiterate...all 21 reactions happened within 30 mins of receiving the vaccine. I think this should make people on the fence more comfortable now that we are a month past the start of public vaccinations.If anyone is interested in the reports of anaphylaxis in the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, here's probably the most authoritative source at the moment, from the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report:
Allergic Reactions Including Anaphylaxis...
As of January 3, 2021, a total of 20,346,372 cases of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and 349,246 associated deaths have been reported in the United States.
If you don't want to sift through what is a rather technical article, here's the key points. The most up-to-date, complete data comes from 14-23 December, so this is only very preliminary reporting and expect the numbers to change as we accumulate more data. For the period covered by this data, there were 21 reported cases of anaphylaxis to the vaccine, out of 1.893 million doses given, which calculates to a rate of 11.1 cases per million. Right now, it is too early to compare this rate to other, more well-established vaccines.
The majority of anaphylactic reactions (71%) occurred within 15 minutes of receiving the vaccine and all occurred within 30 minutes. No deaths occurred, and 20 of the 21 were confirmed completely recovered after receiving the appropriate treatment (the data on the remaining patient was not complete). 4 of the cases required brief hospital stays, the remainder were treated and released from the ER. 17 of the 21 had a previous history of some kind of allergy, and 7 had a previous history of anaphylaxis.
There were also 83 cases of minor allergic reactions. No information on their status beyond that, but we can probably assume that didn't require an ER or hospital visit.
Some of the caveats noted include that this data relied on passive reporting, although the article notes that given the media attention and heightened awareness about potential reactions, an anaphylactic reaction to the new COVID vaccines is probably more likely to be sent through the Vaccine Adverse Reaction Reporting System (VAERS) than for existing vaccines, which typically do not receive as much scrutiny. Also, whereas the reports to VAERS were verified to have been sent promptly, overall data on the number of vaccines distributed has lagged, so if you look at the rate of anaphylaxis per number of vaccines, the denominator is more likely to be an under-report at any given point in time than the numerator. This may overestimate the rate of anaphylaxis.
GoofGoof
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I think this is a pretty good move. It’s risky on the second shots, but things are moving so slow. I also saw that the federal government will begin to work with states to establish large scale vaccination sites across the country. There’s talk of mobilizing the military to assist. This is what we need right now.
Polkadotdress
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What county???
JoeCamel
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Saw Dr Ron on the news this morning talking about the lag in reporting. 3 - 5 days from the real number and adjust up 10 - 15% is what they have seen so far
JoeCamel
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Hillsborough
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