Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[DisneyCane]

That is a reasonable assumption.

Looking at the HHS data (See Pfizer and Moderna tabs under allocation in the link below) it seems to have columns for Doses allocated and Second Dose shipment. So I would concur with your interpretation and that we are only 84 weeks to full Florida immunization vs 168 weeks.

COVID-19 Vaccines

COVID-19 Vaccines

www.hhs.gov

Much better! Only a year and a half to go!

 

[GoofGoof]

Much better! Only a year and a half to go!

Now just improve the process to the point that you double the numbers currently being done and we are cut down to 9 months and then hopefully with JnJ and AstraZenecca we cut the time in half again down to 5 months and we’re done in June

 

[Disney Glimpses]

Now just improve the process to the point that you double the numbers currently being done and we are cut down to 9 months and then hopefully with JnJ and AstraZenecca we cut the time in half again down to 5 months and we’re done in June

Probably even sooner. The reality is once the vulnerable communities (senior citizens and those with underlying medical conditions) are vaccinated, the pandemic comes to an effective end. Cases will continue to rise but deaths will plummet to flu-like numbers.

 

[GoofGoof]

Probably even sooner. The reality is once the vulnerable communities (senior citizens and those with underlying medical conditions) are vaccinated, the pandemic comes to an effective end. Cases will continue to rise but deaths will plummet to flu-like numbers.

The pandemic won’t end once senior citizens are vaccinated. The death toll will drop but not much else will change. There’s no short cutting it. We need everyone to get the vaccine (really 80% but best if everyone assumes there’s no room left in the other 20% bucket). Once enough people are vaccinated and cases drop off then the pandemic ends. There’s no return to normal before that.

 

[Disney Glimpses]

The pandemic won’t end once senior citizens are vaccinated. The death toll will drop but not much else will change. There’s no short cutting it. We need everyone to get the vaccine (really 80% but best if everyone assumes there’s no room left in the other 20% bucket). Once enough people are vaccinated and cases drop off then the pandemic ends. There’s no return to normal before that.

Not just senior citizens. Senior citizens and those with underlying medical conditions. That group of people makes up nearly 99% of all COVID deaths. If the death toll drops to flu-like numbers, then what is the risk?

The reality is we're lucky if we get 40% of Americans to get the shot. As sad as that is.

 

[JAKECOTCenter]

I hope Joe Biden's plan for vaccinating people will end this pandemic this year. 100 million shots in the first 100 days

 

[Disney Glimpses]

I hope Joe Biden's plan for vaccinating people will end this pandemic this year. 100 million shots in the first 100 days

I think your intuition is correct. His first 100 days ends around May 1. I would expect the world to feel like a very different place on that date.

 

[GoofGoof]

Not just senior citizens. Senior citizens and those with underlying medical conditions. That group of people makes up nearly 99% of all COVID deaths. If the death toll drops to flu-like numbers, then what is the risk?

The reality is we're lucky if we get 40% of Americans to get the shot. As sad as that is.

All of the polling out there is significantly higher than that. Most recent has 78% saying they will get the vaccine and 20% saying they will never get it.

USA TODAY

www.usatoday.com

 

[Disney Glimpses]

All of the polling out there is significantly higher than that. Most recent has 78% saying they will get the vaccine and 20% saying they will never get it.

USA TODAY

www.usatoday.com

Thank you for sharing, that is good news.

 

[JAKECOTCenter]

I think by May if the Biden administration reaches the goal, Disney could go to half capacity and full capacity by the 50th celebration

 

[Disney Glimpses]

I think by May if the Biden administration reaches the goal, Disney could go to half capacity and full capacity by the 50th celebration

Rumor is they are already at 40% as of Jan 1. Still allowing 35% to be reserved but 5% allotted for park hopping.

 

[JAKECOTCenter]

Dr. Fauci is optimistic about fall 2021 having some kind of return to normalcy. Perhaps we will have a big 50th celebration and ceremony after all...

 

[GoofGoof]

I think by May if the Biden administration reaches the goal, Disney could go to half capacity and full capacity by the 50th celebration

Seems possible.

My feeling on the return to normal is they will gradually remove restrictions as vaccines are rolled out and cases drop. I think they will start with distancing on rides themselves since that’s the most problematic restriction that limits park capacity. We are seeing some of this already with plexiglass dividers on ride vehicles and some coasters loading every row. Once ride capacity goes up that allows for park capacity to be ramped up. You can’t let more people in the parks without that increase or waits will just get longer and longer and guest satisfaction drops.

My gut feeling is ride distancing goes first than they bring back some more outdoor shows and then add restaurant and store capacity and the last thing to go is masks. I think the goal would be to ramp up capacity by summer (May/June) when they are re-opening a number of resorts and hopefully the vaccinations will be far along. I could see a full relaxing by sometime in the summer if all goes well, but definitely by fall either way.

 

[JAKECOTCenter]

Seems possible.

My feeling on the return to normal is they will gradually remove restrictions as vaccines are rolled out and cases drop. I think they will start with distancing on rides themselves since that’s the most problematic restriction that limits park capacity. We are seeing some of this already with plexiglass dividers on ride vehicles and some coasters loading every row. Once ride capacity goes up that allows for park capacity to be ramped up. You can’t let more people in the parks without that increase or waits will just get longer and longer and guest satisfaction drops.

My gut feeling is ride distancing goes first than they bring back some more outdoor shows and then add restaurant and store capacity and the last thing to go is masks. I think the goal would be to ramp up capacity by summer (May/June) when they are re-opening a number of resorts and hopefully the vaccinations will be far along. I could see a full relaxing by sometime in the summer if all goes well, but definitely by fall either way.

I do think masks will be last down but I do think character meet and greets will be the very last. Once masks are gone, meet and greets in their traditional form can come back somewhat

 

[GoofGoof]

I do think masks will be last down but I do think character meet and greets will be the very last. Once masks are gone, meet and greets in their traditional form can come back somewhat

Some little stuff may take longer like self serve buffets and full character interactions.

 

[JAKECOTCenter]

I think what matters is depending on if the vaccine rollout is amazing or mediocre, that will depend on how big the actual 50th anniversary celebration DAY (October 1) will be.

 

[GoofGoof]

I think what matters is depending on if the vaccine rollout is amazing or mediocre, that will depend on how big the actual 50th anniversary celebration DAY (October 1) will be.

I think we will be done by then unless there’s some kind of major problem.

 

[JAKECOTCenter]

I think we will be done by then unless there’s some kind of major problem.

That major problem either being that new strain or defiance

 

[DCBaker]

"Orange County is launching its first large COVID-19 vaccination site at Disneyland Resort in Anaheim later this week, officials announced Monday.

The location is one of five in the county labeled as a “Point-of-Dispensing” site, or a “Super POD,” and each will have the capacity to vaccinate thousands of resident each day, county officials said in a news release.

“The Disneyland Resort, the largest employer in the heart of Orange County, has stepped up to host the county’s first Super POD site – undertaking a monumental task in our vaccination distribution process,” said Chairman of the Orange County Board of Supervisors Andrew Do.

The county said it will announce the location of the other “Super PODs” as agreements are finalized. The intent is to increase efficiency and provide multiple vaccine distribution points throughout Orange County, officials said.

Vaccine distribution in California is managed through a phased, tiered approach."

Disneyland Resort in Anaheim to house COVID-19 vaccination ‘super’ site

Orange County is launching its first large COVID-19 vaccination site at Disneyland Resort in Anaheim later this week, officials announced Monday. The location is one of five in the county labeled a…

ktla.com

 

[oceanbreeze77]

I think it’s safe to say both NJ and FL are doing quite bad right now. Hopefully cases slow down as we get over the hump from the holiday surge.

in 2 weeks we will have a picture of how bad the holiday surge is. We saw the thanksgiving progression here in LA and the thanksgiving timeline finished about 1.5 weeks ago.