Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[LittleBuford]

The fact that there was no significant spread associated with the protests over the summer should be all the proof anybody needs about that.

On the other hand, we have the recent gathering at the Rose Garden as evidence to the contrary.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

On the other hand, we have the recent gathering at the Rose Garden as evidence to the contrary.

That’s because one was liberal and the other was republican.

 

[LittleBuford]

As always, one's tolerance for speech increases greatly when one agrees with what is being said.

The sarcastic scare quotes (“science”) and snide locutions (“magic masks”) don’t exactly foster goodwill or civil discussion.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Nothing that @DisneyCane said in this particular post justified that kind of response. It's not the subject of masks that people here object to, but what is said about them. Yesterday, someone posted a somewhat impassioned plea for everyone to wear masks (#42,191) and no one objected to the subject of masks being discussed.

As always, one's tolerance for speech increases greatly when one agrees with what is being said.

“Objection! Goes to pattern...”

At this point: everyone OWNS what they’ve said.

None of us want to be in some depressed, lockdown environment. But everyone needs to come around to addressing how best to work the problem...not talk about their personal hopes and dreams

 

[LittleBuford]

That’s because one was liberal and the other was republican.

I am on the left and consider any outdoor gathering of people to be risky (being at Disney included). This shouldn’t be political.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That’s because one was liberal and the other was republican.

Statistics show how that breaks on IQ...

 

[ParentsOf4]

Damn right...it’s amazing how going to church, school, and work spreads the virus, but protests seem to have no impact.

The latest published in the New York Times suggests that even schools are not super spreaders.

Schoolchildren Seem Unlikely to Fuel Coronavirus Surges, Scientists Say

I guess this means that sending children to school is "following the science."

Maybe experience from the last few months also tells us that opening outdoor theme parks and strictly enforcing mask wearing and social distancing are not super spreader events?

Are you following the science, Gavin?

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

I am on the left and consider any outdoor gathering of people to be risky (being at Disney included). This shouldn’t be political.

Yet you reference an outdoor event? I don’t think the virus is political either, but all events should be treated the same.

 

[DisneyCane]

On the other hand, we have the recent gathering at the Rose Garden as evidence to the contrary.

Perhaps we should try to find out what indoor contact the infected people had related to the event. If you look at the photo that one of the newspapers did of where the people that ended up infected were sitting, many were quite far from each other (complete opposite corners of the seating in some cases). The President was nowhere near the audience.

 

[Miss Bella]

Statistics show how that breaks on IQ...

When I saw all the looting, burning and destroying businesses. The first thing that popped into my mind was their IQ.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

That’s because one was liberal and the other was republican.

I don’t think the virus is political either, but all events should be treated the same.

 

[LittleBuford]

Yet you reference an outdoor event? I don’t think the virus is political either, but all events should be treated the same.

There is no data that I know of relating to transmission at protests (or theme parks, for that matter), but I’ve no doubt that such gatherings have also contributed to the spread of the virus, particularly when people haven’t worn masks.

 

[DisneyCane]

Without question it needed a response. There was no name calling just a plea to stop with the same diminishing data about masks. We not only have a right to correct someone on the facts but to try and stop the flow of bad information and data. I said in my response it’s his opinion and he’s entitled to it but when you constantly belittle data that is widely believed, with no links or studies to things you say here, it doesn’t do good for any of us.

Ok, cite the data that obesity and related issues doesn't drive health insurance premiums. Cite the data that not wearing "masks" during a pandemic does to a greater extent because that is what my post was about.

Also, cite the science and studies that indicate outoor environment are even moderate risk for spread.

Nothing in that post was opinion. You just decided to hone in on my sarcastic "magic masks" comment to get triggered about.

If they work so well, why can't there be large gatherings as long as people wear them?

 

[DCBaker]

Numbers are out - there were 77 new deaths reported.

*ETA - fixed formatting

 

[ImperfectPixie]

You really think you are much more intelligent than you are. People who disagree with you aren't stupid. Before throwing around insults you should look in the mirror because they likely apply to you more than the people you are directing them at. The most appropriate insult would get me banned from the forum so I'll refrain.

I like how easily triggered the "masks solve everything" crowd is. My post was factual about what drives health insurance premiums. For those of you who are constantly harping on the "science," there is no science that says that any outdoor scenario is a high transmission risk with or without "magic masks." The fact that there was no significant spread associated with the protests over the summer should be all the proof anybody needs about that.

The Sturgis bike rally disagrees with you.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

There is no data that I know of relating to transmission at protests (or theme parks, for that matter), but I’ve no doubt that such gatherings have also contributed to the spread of the virus, particularly when people haven’t worn masks.

Of course not...the media and politicians up for election can’t upset a voting group practicing their rights.

if you even google it, you get articles supporting that the protests did NOT contribute to the virus...I know ACORN when I see it.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

There is no data that I know of relating to transmission at protests (or theme parks, for that matter), but I’ve no doubt that such gatherings have also contributed to the spread of the virus, particularly when people haven’t worn masks.

Agreed.

Outdoors at a theme park / protest is different than waiting in indoor cues, eating indoors, shopping indoors, and watching 10-30 minute indoor theatre shows. - things all happening at Disney and universal.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

When I saw all the looting, burning and destroying businesses. The first thing that popped into my mind was their IQ.

What did you think about the IQ of the people peacefully protesting the death of humans at hands of police?

 

[ImperfectPixie]

The the latest published in the New York Times suggests that even schools are not super spreaders.

Schoolchildren Seem Unlikely to Fuel Coronavirus Surges, Scientists Say

I guess this means that sending children to school is "following the science."

Maybe experience from the last few months also tells us that opening outdoor theme parks and strictly enforcing mask wearing and social distancing are not super spreader events?

Are you following the science, Gavin?

From what I'm seeing in our district, the schools are being extraordinarily careful and new student infections are from events that are occurring outside of school. This leads me to believe it's people slacking on their vigilance with hand-washing, distancing, and mask-wearing.

 

[LittleBuford]

Agreed.

Outdoors at a theme park / protest is different than waiting in indoor cues, eating indoors, shopping indoors, and watching 10-30 minute indoor theatre shows. - things all happening at Disney and universal.

To be clear, though, I’m saying that outdoor gatherings do pose a risk, though clearly less than indoors ones.