Politics Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Jrb1979

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We missed our chance at a coordinated national response. I don't mean treating all areas the same, but providing some type of uniform guidance based on specified circumstances.
You did have that chance when the CDC put out the guidelines on how to reopen the economy.
 

xdan0920

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If this had been managed with any degree of responsibility and common sense Florida could have been under 5% by now on a consistent basis.
Oh. I guess this is a different discussion now. What would be reasonable in your opinion?
 

Touchdown

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WI numbers started to improve right after Illinois banned us, I think blocking most Illinoisans has bennifitted our state, we continue to have less cases per capita, less total cases and less active cases then our neighbor to the south.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Instead of acting like petulant babies and whining about whether rules will work or not these people embraced the temporary “new normal” and came up with what looks like a pretty decent way to get to do something we all thought wasn’t going to be possible any time soon. If people spent even half the effort they spend coming up with reasons to discredit rules and safety precautions we could have a lot of innovative stuff like this.

 

JoeCamel

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Instead of acting like petulant babies and whining about whether rules will work or not these people embraced the temporary “new normal” and came up with what looks like a pretty decent way to get to do something we all thought wasn’t going to be possible any time soon. If people spent even half the effort they spend coming up with reasons to discredit rules and safety precautions we could have a lot of innovative stuff like this.

My only concern would be all the coming and going but during the concert? Sure!
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
maybe by end of August, they’ll be lifted for Florida. Otherwise it’s NH for me. If I don’t take a vacay soon I’m gonna lose my sanity and camping away from civilization is safe to me
Maine doesn’t say what metric they use. Vermont is < 400 active cases per million people (Not new cases but active) and they go to the county level instead of the state, but it’s only Northeast states on the exemption list and not my county (we have a round 1,000 active per million so more than double the requirement).
 

GoofGoof

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My only concern would be all the coming and going but during the concert? Sure!
I think it said they had a socially distanced queue that you wait in and then get escorted to your seat. Drinks and food are all ordered on your phone and brought to you. The only time you would need to leave is to use the restroom. I assume in the queue and if going to the restroom you have to wear a mask.
 

Touchdown

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Also “interstate commerce” is a right guaranteed by the constitution to the federal govt. what that means is that no state can block entry to any citizen of the USA. Ergo, states with quarantines have to allow people to pass through them. New York allows travelers to stop at rest stops, gas stations as well as hotels, you’re in violation if you go anywhere else but travel is not and cannot be blocked.
 

Yellow Shoes

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I wouldn't be surprised to find that a lot for the reason for numbers rising is people traveling between states. I know here where I live all they do is promote and tell people to vacation within their own province. For the most part that's what most people are doing.
I know folks living on the Illinois/Missouri border who go to MO for shopping, restaurants, bars, etc where there is no mask mandate. You can bet at least some of them are exposed and bringing the virus to Illinois.
 

Jrb1979

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I know folks living on the Illinois/Missouri border who go to MO for shopping, restaurants, bars, etc where there is no mask mandate. You can bet at least some of them are exposed and bringing the virus to Illinois.
I have no words anymore. Too many people are devided in the US to ever make things work. Some even in this thread are against any "draconian measures" as they call it.
 

ImperfectPixie

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I have no words anymore. Too many people are devided in the US to ever make things work. Some even in this thread are against any "draconian measures" as they call it.
I know how you feel. If we could all just suck it up for a while, we could get through this...but people are being SO STUBBORN and seem proud to say that they buy into conspiracy theories.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
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I have no words anymore. Too many people are devided in the US to ever make things work. Some even in this thread are against any "draconian measures" as they call it.
The US has a very diverse population with 50 diverse states. This leads to differing opinions. I would say the vast majority try to use common sense, whether they agree with lockdowns or whatever other measures that have been used.
I know how you feel. If we could all just suck it up for a while, we could get through this...but people are being SO STUBBORN and seem proud to say that they buy into conspiracy theories.
Millions have been sucking it up for quite some time now. I get that the reaction may be to bash the population. I just don’t think its fair.
 

ImperfectPixie

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The US has a very diverse population with 50 diverse states. This leads to differing opinions. I would say the vast majority try to use common sense, whether they agree with lockdowns or whatever other measures that have been used.

Millions have been sucking it up for quite some time now. I get that the reaction may be to bash the population. I just don’t think its fair.
I know...and those who are refusing to are making it more difficult for everyone.
 

jkh36619

Active Member
I like Maine. Bar Harbor. Only been there once but it was beautiful. I hope to visit the national park up there as well.
My in-laws own a rental house in Southwest Harbor and a cabin on a place called Toddy Pond in Maine. I've never been. I just can't do cold and stay busy in the summer. I'll have to get up there someday since my bucket list is visit every National park and Acacia is around the corner.
 

DisneyDelirious

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I know folks living on the Illinois/Missouri border who go to MO for shopping, restaurants, bars, etc where there is no mask mandate. You can bet at least some of them are exposed and bringing the virus to Illinois.
I can comfirm. I live in a city right across the Mississippi River from MO. Folks would just go over and eat and enjoy no mask requirements. We are up to a 6.2 % 7 day positivity rate now.
 

FeelsSoGoodToBeBad

Active Member
Yellow Shoes said:
I know folks living on the Illinois/Missouri border who go to MO for shopping, restaurants, bars, etc where there is no mask mandate. You can bet at least some of them are exposed and bringing the virus to Illinois.
I can comfirm. I live in a city right across the Mississippi River from MO. Folks would just go over and eat and enjoy no mask requirements. We are up to a 6.2 % 7 day positivity rate now.

Can also confirm. I live across the river from St Louis, MO. Last weekend was tax-free sales in MO, just before school starts. We unknowingly met some friends to drop of a 3d print in a parking lot in Brentwood. The crowds were INSANE!
 

Lilofan

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I like Maine. Bar Harbor. Only been there once but it was beautiful. I hope to visit the national park up there as well.
I l knew a guy from that town, Bar Harbor, ME. His New England accent was so thick, I could barely understand the English coming out of his mouth. Others would just come up to him to just listen when he started speaking.
 

MisterPenguin

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