Casper Gutman
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I’m genuinely interested here - why not?
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Kevin_W
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Prehaps true. NY definitely had such a large number initially it dwarfed the rest of the country. Ohio has gone steadily downward, with only 6 deaths yesterday and a 7-day average of ~10 after a peak of ~50. But cases have gone up sharply in the past month and hospitalizations up a bit, though not at much. It stands to reason, unfortunately, that deaths will follow.
wannabeBelle
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Also in NY we were one of the first to get hit before any of the shut downs happened. Our numbers were downright horrific. At one point we had 799 deaths in one day in Staten Island. 799. That is an astronomical number. We are down to no deaths over the past 2 days, 1.5 percent positive for testing, 14 people in the two hospitals we have on Staten Island specifically (1 got released yesterday so down from 15) and we are heading in the right direction. Could it be that Florida, having shut down so quickly, didn't get the hit initially and is now getting it due to people being out and about? We did have a slight uptick due to people being out up here too but it was less than one percentage point, so no one is freaking out. Marie
GoofGoof
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Here’s the problem with that. If 10 people do a study like that they will come back with 10 different results. So if someone published a report that points out the risk of indoor dining there will be another report disputing that. There’s no way to really do a study to prove this beyond a doubt. The only thing we may have is after the dust settles we may be able to look back at who got infected and who didn’t and draw some so,I’d conclusions based on their activity but that won’t help guide decisions today. We need to use the best information we have today combined with common sense and our basic knowledge of virus spread to draw conclusions. What we can’t do is wait for studies.
Well I guess you could be right... I’m just going off what a CM after their class. Maybe the actual application is different
oceanbreeze77
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I agree, I'm just curious what the findings show down the line.
Target (starting August 1st) and CVS (starting July 20th) have announced face mask requirements for entry, joining Kroger (starting July 22nd) and Kohls (starting July 20th).
Target, CVS, Walgreens to also require masks at stores nationwide as COVID-19 cases rise
Walgreens, CVS and Target are the latest retailers to say they will require shoppers wear face coverings at stores nationwide as COVID-19 cases rise.
www.usatoday.com
oceanbreeze77
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wonder why so far out with Aug 1Target (starting August 1st) and CVS (starting July 20th) have announced face mask requirements for entry, joining Kroger (starting July 22nd) and Kohls (starting July 20th).
Target, CVS, Walgreens to also require masks at stores nationwide as COVID-19 cases rise
Walgreens, CVS and Target are the latest retailers to say they will require shoppers wear face coverings at stores nationwide as COVID-19 cases rise.www.usatoday.com
Chip Chipperson
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I was wondering the same thing. Maybe it's to give them time to get the stores stocked with disposable masks. Otherwise, the message is, "It's not safe to shop here without a mask, but you don't have to wear one for another 16 days."
disneygeek90
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It's funny because it's already about 3 months too late. Why weren't companies doing this the entire time?
oceanbreeze77
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what's funny is I thought they were...
disneygeek90
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Unfortunately no. I've still never seen an employee turn away a guest from a public store not wearing a mask, even though they are required in Orange County.
Gosh even my positivity over wdw opening is waning a little. In my local area we have had a spike from 16 cases in a week to 30 - with our population this is like Miami getting 120 cases in a week. Our local authority is about to put out a warning that figures need to improve over the next fortnight or restrictions may be put in place! The numbers I see from areas are staggering 
I just hope they start to improve soon for everyone’s sake
I just hope they start to improve soon for everyone’s sake
Disstevefan1
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Gosh even my positivity over wdw opening is waning a little. In my local area we have had a spike from 16 cases in a week to 30 - with our population this is like Miami getting 120 cases in a week. Our local authority is about to put out a warning that figures need to improve over the next fortnight or restrictions may be put in place! The numbers I see from areas are staggering
Not that we can trust any numbers being reported on daily or weekly basis (I wish we could) you said cases went from 16 to 30 in a week, but a huge variable is how many total tests were done in that same time period? The only way the weekly cases can mean anything (good or bad) is when you take into consider the total number of tests taken in the same time period.
Kevin_W
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Target (starting August 1st) and CVS (starting July 20th) have announced face mask requirements for entry, joining Kroger (starting July 22nd) and Kohls (starting July 20th).
Target, CVS, Walgreens to also require masks at stores nationwide as COVID-19 cases rise
Walgreens, CVS and Target are the latest retailers to say they will require shoppers wear face coverings at stores nationwide as COVID-19 cases rise.www.usatoday.com
I wonder where the posters from earlier in this thread that were going to boycott Costco are going to get their groceries from now. I suppose Kroger Clicklist still works.
My Kroger around here had dropped down in fask-mask %age a few weeks ago (from my personal observation). When I went last night it was pretty close to 100%, and they sell boxes of hospital-type masks right inside the door. So no need to wait until the 22nd.
GoofGoof
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The number of positive tests is the number of positive tests. If FL has 9 or 10 thousand new positive cases a day why would we not be able to trust that number? Or are you saying it’s really much higher but they just are not doing enough testing? I would say that we can firmly trust that the reported positive test results is at least the minimum number of cases.
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GoofGoof
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The state I live in, PA, just announced a further pull back from re-openings after seeing 900+ new cases in a day. Adjusted for population size that would be like FL seeing 1,500 cases in a day. FL is averaging almost 7X that many cases and waited until the case numbers were in the 8 or 9 thousand a day range before even implementing a flawed bar ban. The percent positive in PA is averaging just above 5% so it’s not lack of testing that is driving the number lower. It’s crazy to see the uneven responses to this situation across the country.Gosh even my positivity over wdw opening is waning a little. In my local area we have had a spike from 16 cases in a week to 30 - with our population this is like Miami getting 120 cases in a week. Our local authority is about to put out a warning that figures need to improve over the next fortnight or restrictions may be put in place! The numbers I see from areas are staggering
I agree with you that I really hope we start to see things improve across the board everywhere. People need to make better decisions on their own even if the government doesn’t mandate it. Wear a mask when in public. It’s simple and has proven at this point to be somewhat effective. Avoid unnecessary contact with strangers. You don’t have to lock yourself away in your home but pick and choose which are necessary and which are avoidable situations. Just because you legally can do something doesn’t mean you have to do it. It’s not too hard, but people need to make some sacrifices and be willing to set aside instant gratification for the greater good. Too many people would rather argue semantics or political talking points in this country.
GoofGoof
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Then you have things like this:
6abc.com
Come on people, we all need to do better. Don’t do the deed, and if you do it, own up to it and help ensure you don’t spread this to others. Selfish, pig headed actions like this are why we can’t contain outbreaks.
Montco coach, graduation party attendees not cooperating with contact tracers: Official
Officials in Montgomery County say they are troubled by a recent lack of compliance with health guidelines put in place to help prevent the spread of COVID-19.
6abc.com
Come on people, we all need to do better. Don’t do the deed, and if you do it, own up to it and help ensure you don’t spread this to others. Selfish, pig headed actions like this are why we can’t contain outbreaks.
oceanbreeze77
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I think a way to get contact tracing going would be to have private businesses (IE disney) make it so that customers have to agree to tracing in order to use the business.Then you have things like this:
Montco coach, graduation party attendees not cooperating with contact tracers: Official
Officials in Montgomery County say they are troubled by a recent lack of compliance with health guidelines put in place to help prevent the spread of COVID-19.
Come on people, we all need to do better. Don’t do the deed, and if you do it, own up to it and help ensure you don’t spread this to others. Selfish, pig headed actions like this are why we can’t contain outbreaks.
Disstevefan1
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I was hoping the daily or weekly numbers would have been a way to track progress, or lack of progress.
If a city reported 0 cases that day or week, WHAT WOULD YOUR NEXT QUESTION? How may tests were taken for that time period. A small number of tests that return 0 positive means nothing.
As for the reporting, there have been multiple reports of testing centers having back logs, mis reporting numbers and correcting them only after being called on it, testing centers reporting multiple days results as a single day etc.
The post I replied to said something like positives went from 16 to 30 in a week. How many tests were taken? Were there twice as many taken as the week before? If yes, the curve is flat. Was there three times more tests taken that week? Then cases are going down. We need to know the total tests taken for the numbers to mean anything.
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