I really like Vancouver and I'm so glad that if I had to be anywhere away from home, I'm here. At least I come home tomorrow. I've poured my heart out to complete strangers over this and they have listened and supported me. Canada rocks! Seriously, a change of venue to the Canada pavilion at EPCOT wouldn't be the worst thing. Thanks to my friend Jackie for that idea
Ah I finally have time to go back and respond to everyone. I hate leaving people hanging, I'm so sorry but my schedule has just been unbelievably hectic this week. I'm being contacted by bloggers, news stations, newspapers, etc. I haven't replied to the news stations yet because I'm hoping we can settle this peacefully today and I won't have to make my story
that public. Although my father disagrees with me, he thinks I should go ahead and talk to whoever I want. He's livid over this situation as are the rest of our families.
Shelley, I have been following you off and on....WOW I cant beleive what I have just read. This is very poor planing on the construction side of Disney. I would venture to say that your wedding was planned long before they started DVC planing at GF. Cant see how the top of BL would cost the same as the WP. Not a equal option. I am sure they will not give in to any of your demands but you have to aim high so you will be some what happy with something in the middle. My heart goes out to you and Jason right now and wish you the best of luck in getting to the bootom of this. I am sure it will all work out somehow. Also very proud of you for the way your dealing and handling this while not at home and all by yourself. We are all here for you and Jason. :wave: Hang in there!!!
Thank you so much! I totally agree, BLT is not an equal option to the WP. We were shocked an appalled that we have only been given options to downgrade. They have really low balled us and it's unfair. Even if they can hault construction, does that make everything ok? They should at least offer us transportation and/or food and beverage upgrades. The fact that I have to even negotiate these things with them makes me sick. They should have been offered in the first place.
Oh wow. I'm absolutely shocked, appalled, and sickened by this Shelley. I've been reading your threads all morning... and I don't know that there's anything I can say that hasn't been said already. I know for a fact that if I was told a month prior to our wedding that we couldn't get married on Sunset Pointe, no other venue would've been a suitable replacement. That being said, from a customer service standpoint when you make a mistake, you always offer an upgrade to help calm the waters, not something lesser. It's like checking into a Moderate for your vacation and finding out they've overbooked. If you find out by way of an offer to stay at a Deluxe resort, then you may not be too upset. But if they try to move you to a Value resort and don't do anything to compensate for your loss, you'll be livid.
I'm holding out hope that this generates enough media hype for Disney to step up and do the right thing. Sad as it is though, they'll be "doing the right thing" for their own sake and not simply because it is the right thing to do. I don't know if you've seen it yet, but Brett sent me the following link:
http://thedisneyblog.com/2011/08/31/grand-floridian-dvc-construction-forcing-weddings-to-move/ Good to see your story is getting out there. It's great that the forums are generating so many hits, but I think blogs, newspapers, and other media will go further in "motivating" DFTW to do the right thing!
I was just on the phone with Brett telling him that if this had happened to us and we had to sign a confidentiality agreement, it wouldn't matter how great the offer was, I would still be absolutely distraught. To not be able to write about our wedding and share it would've wrecked me. And I'm sure that's important to you as well. I'm just sick over what they've done. If there is anything at all I can do for you, please please let me know.
Hi Holly, thank you so much for your support. And for posting that link. They tweeted me after they posted it and I'm glad my story is spreading but I really wasn't expecting it to go that viral yesterday. I actually pulled my other forum thread because I was getting PMs from mods asking me to edit my comments. I wasn't really happy with that as people were attacking me personally and I had a right to defend myself so I pulled it. I'm being very careful in this forum now though, not mentioning specific names and trying to keep my emotions as calm as possible. It's been a really difficult time indeed.
I have to tell you, one of the first things my Mom said was "Omg what is that nice girl who sent you the buttons going to think?" That just goes to show the apple doesn't fall far from the tree
My family tends to think of how situations will impact not only ourselves, but others as well. I am SO happy this did not happen to you and you had your fairytale. All I want is to resolve this and to hopefully cause enough of a stink about it that they'll think twice before pulling this on other brides and grooms.
I just read parts of this post. I am shocked to say the least.
In the end, there are going to be 2 things that come into play: the contract and the threat of a civil suit. The contract is bound by laws in the State. It is highly unlikely that WDW legal machine would not have wording in it for issues like this. Second, WDW does not want to face a very public suit of a multi-billion dollar company stomping the dreams of a bride-to-be.
Keep at them and tell them your demands. There are going to be two bars: yours and theirs. Eventually, there will be compromises to make it right. There are places within the MK that a wedding can take place. It would be a scheduling nightmare, but a small price to pay.
I hope it all works out because this is not something a bride should have to worry about. I had to deal with WDW for our honeymoon when they lost our reservation. The key is assertive escalation. Don't be combative and ask to speak to the next manager immediately if an acceptable resolution cannot be made. Continue this until you are satisfied. Do not let them say "we will call you back". Tell them you will wait.
Thanks for your advice. I have gotten really good legal advice from people on these forums and hopefully it won't come to that.
OMG they lost your honeymoon reservation?? That's appalling. I'm really shocked by the way they have treated us so far. We'll see what happens today, I hope we can come to an agreement but seriously after our discussion yesterday I am really not sure what is going to happen. My stomach is in knots this morning. Our trip countdown should be 22 days today. Jeez we'll be in the teens soon. I just want to go back to being excited about it.
I thought about this too and was in the process of emailing touringplans.com (the Unofficial Guide side) when I saw this entry:
http://blog.touringplans.com/2011/08/31/grand-floridian-construction-shuts-down-wedding-pavilion/
So word continues to spread!
Good luck with your call...stand your ground!
Oops, looks like I posted just after you, so I didn't see the update...
...I agree with you, as beautiful as those other locations are, they are NOT ENOUGH if they won't give you back the difference. I am stunned that they didn't offer you something better.
I read the story about the UK bride you are referring to over on the other boards...what is up with Disney?! Do they think people will just be okay with this and go on their merry way??
Absolutely take any interviews that come your way. The more attention you can call to this, the better. I am so, so disappointed in Disney right now.
Stay strong, Shelley!
Thanks for posting the link to Touring Plans. Man when they got hold of this story, that's when it went really viral
They rock, love the site and the people. Their software developer, Henry, and I met in May and became fast friends. He also had a disney wedding and expressed his concern and support to me yesterday via twitter.
I'm still so unsure about the interviews. Some people have said go for it, some have said keep a lid on it until I'm dissatisfied to the point that I have to use the media for leverage. I really want a lawyer to read the fine print in our contract before I go saying things that could get me sued by Disney. I don't want it to come to that. I'm so sad that this is even a possibility. I don't want to enter legal proceedings with a company that I have come to love over my lifetime.
Ugh I am sick to my stomach after seeing all of this today, my heart breaks for both of you! I can't say that if I were in the situation I would have been able to keep my head as you have. I would have been at that center in Vancouver begging for the Xanax!
I am so disgusted on the way things were handled, the LEAST they could have done was provide you with the vow renewal option at the GF in a year, I really don't think that is too much to ask. Hopefully they will come up with some type of solution that is amicable for everyone. They took the payment for something they are not even going to provide you with, awful!
My prayers are with you, and all the other Disney brides who have gotten the short end of the stick so close to their wedding!
Eh I got myself some wine instead
Works just as well as Xanax! I finally got a good night's sleep last night. I think I was just so over exhausted that my body finally gave in. At least I'm 3 hrs behind here in Vancouver and not the other way around. It's much worse to deal with jet lag when you are heading east with the time difference.
I have a knot in my stomach after reading all this. I'm just beyond words at how this situation has been horribly mismanaged. Like others have said...why didn't they tell WP brides sooner?!
I can't imagine how I would react if something like happened to me. The bad thing is I can't even think of a humorous "I would do this..." response right now. My heart goes out to you and Jason.
Thinking of you Shelley!
Thanks Erin
I can hardly think of anything humorous either. At least I have some time to settle down today and clear my head. We'll see what happens with the conversation today!
Hey Shelley,
I'm sorry to hear about this especially with only a month to go. It's definitely something that no bride wants to deal with. When Karen told me to look at your thread about what had happened, once I read it my jaw dropped in disbelief.
Also Karen and I just looked through our contract to see all of the clauses about these type events. I was going to post something about one of the clauses, but deleted it since there is a confidentiality agreement in it. Just make sure you don't post anything within the contract so that they don't have any leverage over you in this whole ordeal.
It looks like Karen and I will be talking to our wedding planner soon about possibly changing locations or to see what will be happening in March with the whole DVC at the Grand Floridian.
I hope that everything does work out in the end so you have your dream wedding.
-Robby
Yep this is why I haven't done any interviews yet. I'm really not sure what information is supposed to be confidential so I'm treading lightly. It's funny that they really don't care if you post stuff that's confidential if it's positive. But once you start complaining you have to be careful and cover yourself.
I would definitely talk to your wedding planner about the impact of the construction in March. I have suggested that anyone getting married at the WP in the next 2 years talk to their wedding planner. Also take a look at the construction plans here at WDWMagic:
http://wdwmagic.com/Resorts/Disneys-Grand-Floridian-DVC.htm
Ridiculous. This must be absolutely exhausting for you. Good for you for nipping the other thread in the bud.
As always, good luck with everything! :wave:
Thank you, really the support I have gotten has been wonderful