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Brer Oswald
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Sure! Just fill me in on my specific responsibilities and I'll start!@Brer Oswald -- since a lot of the ideas in Fantasyland stemmed from your philosophies and ideas...would you like to be a sub-lead or co-sub-lead for Fantasyland?I have confidence in you I think you're up for it!
Disney Dad 3000
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Catching up on a week's worth of posts with you guys is nutso.
JackWatkinson
Well-Known Member
haha i've been here for just over a week and it's ridiculous how much goes on!Catching up on a week's worth of posts with you guys is nutso.
Voxel
President of Progress City
we have our slow weeks and our quick weeks. I will appologize I tend to throw around a lot of ideas when I'm around.
Btw space I'm working on a bunch of concept are for an attraction that blends that idea of space you were talking about. I think you might like it
That's the word I was looking for!
Romanticized
This is exactly what I was thinking to help bring the project closer to that feedback. For example Boston in the 1700s would be dirty, poor, etc. However in this version it's clean, quaint, and so on. It's the rose colored glasses view of each area. Same goes for Fantasyland and all the other lands -- I think the San Fran area would run into this as well.
We're seeing it from a child's perspective...because this park is supposed to be a place where the "young at heart" laugh, learn, play - together.
Always a treat with your art
Sounds great can't wait to see!
It can vary based on the individual...but a "sub-lead" based on my interpretation has a vision for the land they are the sub-lead for...and has come to an agreement with the rest of the sub-leads in how each neighboring land flows into yours.
The idea of the sub-leads stems from trying to organize the project by always having someone for each land who knows what's going on -- therefore if a new member wants to join in Fantasyland for example later on, that sub-lead will be able to explain to them what's going on without everyone having to chime in!
JackWatkinson
Well-Known Member
I have some basic ideas for Adventureland but that is about all. However I think these could work if I put more thought into them however I wouldn't do this unless nobody else had ideas for what they see Adventureland accomplishing.
Go ahead and share them by all means!
I'm going to expand on what I was talking about with the "back to basics" stuff last night
JackWatkinson
Well-Known Member
I honestly didn't have much it was just a thought in my head. I would see my Adventureland-like Disneyland Paris- being split into 3 themed areas. One would be a Arabian theme, maybe Agrabah? Then you would have a South American theme- Mayan temples, cities of gold, Peru’s Machu Picchu, and the ornate European towns constructed by the arriving Spanish. Then you would have the pirate themed area, maybe inspired by the old Isla Tortuga concept art?-Go ahead and share them by all means!
I'm going to expand on what I was talking about with the "back to basics" stuff last night
I've not thought into any more detail than this. I would like to hear peoples thoughts on this and whether it would be worth expanding on?
Voxel
President of Progress City
Always romanticize unless you want a dark image.
D Hulk
Well-Known Member
These are all very strong concepts for Adventureland, @JackWatkinson. Since we're going with a Polynesian idea, based on Walt's own interest, I suggest more Tiki stuff too, like an expanded sub-land area inspired by the Enchanted Tiki Room. And wouldn't you know it, Tom Thordarson has done a ton of artwork in just this vein!
JackWatkinson
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That art looks very good and would mean we have a good mix of distinct, not too dissimilar and not to similar areas to make up adventureland.
Ok so go with me a minute here...Carolwood (Frontierland) and Polynesia (Adventureland) kinda got messed up. Since @D Hindley had brought up the concept of Tom Sawyer Island being a Walt classic...I tried to make both lands part of a "mega" Tom Saywer Island...but I realized then it would be tough...so ignore that for now haha
The bolded lines and labels are ideas I'm comfortable with
Starting in a romanticized colonial era -- you walk down the Colonial Street (with a few side streets as well to truly envelope you in the area) but all roads lead to the Harbor.
The Harbor is the "hub" of the park -- and contains the mouth of the bodies of water throughout the park.
Walking over the bridge to the bottom left, you walk into the Pacific Wharf/American Wharf -- themed to old San Francisco -- the trainsition here would be similar to crossing America's Great Rivers. I'm thinking even a small Tom Saywer Island or Mark Twain inspired ship could be a good gateway transition to the American West from Boston.
Going clockwise from the Wharf entry, we have our 2nd bridge -- and this one would lead directly into the "past" (parallel to the opposite side in the "future" entrance)
This would be the entrance to Carolwood/Frontierland -- and old fashioned romanticized desert/cowboy town (inspired by Western River Expedition most likely)
The next entrance is straight from the harbor -- and that enters Old England. The castle appearing in front of you, and to facilitate more of what Tom was talking about -- I simplified "Storybookland"/Fantasyland into 3 areas
He said that we should have more "fantasy" elements into the land -- so I think the Canals, Neverland, and Wonderland should be basically the entire back portion of the land.
Neverland would also seamlessly flow into "Polynesia"/Adventureland in the back left portion of the park
Storybookland creates that whimsical/fantasy perspective...and Wonderland can be completely interactive and immersive.
Off of that would be Villains Land - whose castle can be seen from parts of the land, acting as a weenie.
Based on the map -- I also have guests walking under train bridges in order to get to Neverland, Wonderland, or Villains -- which will all be connected beyond the brim, but creates a more significant transition walking under a bridge than just entering the land from Old England. It's basically like the Storybook Canals open up the imagination -- and you walk further to see that childlike imagination (and nightmares (villains)) come to life!
Off of Mr. Toad/Mary Poppins, would be the "Hundred Acre Wood" -- and a Critter Country Mini-Land with Country Bears and Splash -- which would flow behind the show buildings for Toad and MP -- inspired by the American "south" -- which would transition into the Mississippi and Mark Twain, which you cross in order to reach the Wharf in the bottom left -- and the American Southwest (Carolwood/Western River) if guests decide to make a turn.
On the right side of Fantasyland we have the "forest" which is always on the outskirts of old england towns...that's where BatB is -- which transitions into the Wonderland forest.
Then on the right side I trust Vox's vision -- so I just have Tomorrowland and Progressland/World's Fair
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I'm sorry it's a bit stream of consciousness -- but hopefully some of this makes sense lol Let me know what you think!
Voxel
President of Progress City
Trusting of vox you do! I'll talk with the ppl on the other thread about ideas tonight. I have some forming but it's a group vision in the end.
Ok so go with me a minute here...Carolwood (Frontierland) and Polynesia (Adventureland) kinda got messed up. Since @D Hindley had brought up the concept of Tom Sawyer Island being a Walt classic...I tried to make both lands part of a "mega" Tom Saywer Island...but I realized then it would be tough...so ignore that for now haha
The bolded lines and labels are ideas I'm comfortable with
Starting in a romanticized colonial era -- you walk down the Colonial Street (with a few side streets as well to truly envelope you in the area) but all roads lead to the Harbor.
The Harbor is the "hub" of the park -- and contains the mouth of the bodies of water throughout the park.
Walking over the bridge to the bottom left, you walk into the Pacific Wharf/American Wharf -- themed to old San Francisco -- the trainsition here would be similar to crossing America's Great Rivers. I'm thinking even a small Tom Saywer Island or Mark Twain inspired ship could be a good gateway transition to the American West from Boston.
Going clockwise from the Wharf entry, we have our 2nd bridge -- and this one would lead directly into the "past" (parallel to the opposite side in the "future" entrance)
This would be the entrance to Carolwood/Frontierland -- and old fashioned romanticized desert/cowboy town (inspired by Western River Expedition most likely)
The next entrance is straight from the harbor -- and that enters Old England. The castle appearing in front of you, and to facilitate more of what Tom was talking about -- I simplified "Storybookland"/Fantasyland into 3 areas
He said that we should have more "fantasy" elements into the land -- so I think the Canals, Neverland, and Wonderland should be basically the entire back portion of the land.
Neverland would also seamlessly flow into "Polynesia"/Adventureland in the back left portion of the park
Storybookland creates that whimsical/fantasy perspective...and Wonderland can be completely interactive and immersive.
Off of that would be Villains Land - whose castle can be seen from parts of the land, acting as a weenie.
Based on the map -- I also have guests walking under train bridges in order to get to Neverland, Wonderland, or Villains -- which will all be connected beyond the brim, but creates a more significant transition walking under a bridge than just entering the land from Old England. It's basically like the Storybook Canals open up the imagination -- and you walk further to see that childlike imagination (and nightmares (villains)) come to life!
Off of Mr. Toad/Mary Poppins, would be the "Hundred Acre Wood" -- and a Critter Country Mini-Land with Country Bears and Splash -- which would flow behind the show buildings for Toad and MP -- inspired by the American "south" -- which would transition into the Mississippi and Mark Twain, which you cross in order to reach the Wharf in the bottom left -- and the American Southwest (Carolwood/Western River) if guests decide to make a turn.
Then on the right side I trust Vox's vision -- so I just have Tomorrowland and Progressland/World's Fair
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I'm sorry it's a bit stream of consciousness -- but hopefully some of this makes sense lol Let me know what you think!
Brer Oswald
Well-Known Member
Ok perfect!
MonorailRed
Applebees
Actually.... I think I have a pretty cool location idea for this....
@Voxel - World's Fair Location for the 'Crazy Project' of '14?
So for sub-leads in the individual lands (correct me if anything wrong)
World's Fair - @StevenU
Tomorrowland/Discoveryland - @Voxel
American Wharf - @D Hindley
Also @MonorailRed I'm tagging you because I know you love Frontierland and I think would be good to lead that.
I'd love to be a sub-lead for Frontierland! Should I make a separate thread for that?
