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[King Panda 77]

A ball pit?

Is this the 1970s?

 

[DisneyHead123]

Disney is replacing a pool for teens on the Disney Dream with a ball pit. Also combining the pre teens and teens spaces so they can fit another suite into the funnel… this is everything wrong with modern Disney management only thinking short term.

Also what 11 to 17 year old would rather go in a ball pit than private pool?

“There will be new features including access to an outdoor deck with a ball pit and recreational games.”

Disney Dream cruise ship to add new experiences and spaces

Disney Cruise Line has shared a first look at some of the updates coming to the Disney Dream later this year.

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The ball pit thing is really inexplicable. If they’re basically just giving up on the teen market and assuming they prefer the rock walls and go karts on other ships, I guess there’s a kind of logic to downsizing their space. I don’t like it, but maybe that’s just not a real market for them. But a ball pit for tweens? Outdoors in the heat? Is it supposed to be ironic or something? (Also ball pits are notoriously hard to keep clean so there’s the ew factor.)

The kid’s club sounds like it’s being turned into an arcade with slick language so that parents can feel they’re not locking their kid in an arcade for hours while they go have cocktails in the Disney themed lounges. But whatever I guess. Gen X grew up with arcades as babysitters and turned out ok, I suppose it’s not the end of the world.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Ball pit doesn’t interest me. Mosh pit. Different story.

 

[JD80]

I concur.

There’s a reason why TDR, even though it’s owned by the OLC and not Disney, now charges for Fastpass and discontinued APs entirely.

Crowds were FAR too high before so I’m happy they raised prices with the intention of bringing crowds to a sane level.

Supply and demand forced them to raise prices to drive down the insane demand for the parks, and that’s beyond the fact they’ve obviously been too greedy overall and are stalling to just allow the Epic Universe hit to happen. I think the true nickel and diming comes from excessive hotel and food costs to be honest. I genuinely think park tickets themselves aren’t too expensive. APs and other ticket pricing was far too much of a value relative to the demand.

But, there is a limit to that strategy, and I think we’re finally seeing that play out. Expanding capacity is a better long-term business strategy and it is one they’re now doing given that the parks got up to par with where the should’ve been a long time ago.

Now, it’s all about expansion. It’s very exciting.

Personally I don't find the cost of food too high, but the tickets are. I don't mind the single day or 2 day costs, but I'd like to see a return to the more aggressively discount of 4+ day tickets.

 

[Splash4eva]

Is it Iger’s job to find a successor or is it the Board made up of several outside execs?

The board are his puppets so does it really matter?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Or consider for a second, just a second, that they know exactly what they are doing. They have raised prices and lowered crowds to create a better experience that has a higher guest satisfaction number and desire to return rating.

They want to mothball hotel wings and still not have 100% occupancy? That’s the plan?

 

[Nubs70]

Is it Iger’s job to find a successor or is it the Board made up of several outside execs?

It is both

 

[el_super]

They want to mothball hotel wings and still not have 100% occupancy? That’s the plan?

I've explained this before, but pretty simply:

Scenario A:
You sell 100 room nights at $100 = $10,000

Scenario B:
You double the price to $200
Occupancy drops to 50%, but your revenue is still $10,000. You are even.
You discount the remaining 50% occupancy and maybe sell 10 more rooms at 30% off
You have now made $11,400 and your occupancy has dropped 40%

You make more money with less. Plus you end up saving in labor and maintenance on shuttered hotel rooms.

Then the growth game begins again - how do you convince people to fill those remaining rooms?

 

[GhostHost1000]

I've explained this before, but pretty simply:

Scenario A:
You sell 100 room nights at $100 = $10,000

Scenario B:
You double the price to $200
Occupancy drops to 50%, but your revenue is still $10,000. You are even.
You discount the remaining 50% occupancy and maybe sell 10 more rooms at 30% off
You have now made $11,400 and your occupancy has dropped 40%

You make more money with less. Plus you end up saving in labor and maintenance on shuttered hotel rooms.

Then the growth game begins again - how do you convince people to fill those remaining rooms?

Your revenue is the same ONLY for the resort.

You do realize with 50% less bookings mean less people in the parks and less spending money there right? Then the growth game gets modified and budgets get cut.

 

[el_super]

You do realize with 50% less bookings mean less people in the parks and less spending money there right? Then the growth game gets modified and budgets get cut.

You think room rates are the only prices Disney has increased?

 

[GhostHost1000]

You think room rates are the only prices Disney has increased?

Do you think price increases in the parks make up for half the resorts empty and can be sustained?

 

[el_super]

Do you think price increases in the parks make up for half the resorts empty and can be sustained?

Guess so since their overall parks revenue is still increasing.

Whether it can be sustained is up to the $60B they want to spend.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Guess so since their overall parks revenue is still increasing.

Whether it can be sustained is up to the $60B they want to spend.

Stay tuned. You might be surprised.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Somebody still doesn’t get it…and yet wastes time saying the same things over and over again in a vain attempt it will eventually “become true”

 

[Tom P.]

Somebody still doesn’t get it…and yet wastes time saying the same things over and over again in a vain attempt it will eventually “become true”

Pot. Kettle. Etc.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Pot. Kettle. Etc.

lol…they never wanted to lower attendance for you. You’re not special enough

Just keep paying and go along with it

 

[Tom P.]

lol…they never wanted to lower attendance for you. You’re not special enough

Just keep paying and go along with it

I never claimed they wanted to lower attendance. I'm just amused at you, of all people, talking about someone posting the same things over and over again.

But, for the record, we've got a trip booked for September and are looking forward to it. Unlike many people here apparently, we're still Walt Disney World fans. To each his own I suppose.

 

[JD80]

When they’re charging $60+ a person for garbage buffets, yes, food is too expensive.

I know all the good spots to eat at and to avoid, but most people don’t, especially first timers. Feels predatory and like a tourist trap.

Perhaps Space 220 is the biggest rip off of them all at $79 a person.

Agree on Space 220.

Buffets are overpriced. Went to BOMA in December for breakfast and was underwhelmed. Been to all the other ones. I was ok with the character ones, when my kids like them but they are aging out of that now.

$65 buffet with no characters is no bueno.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I never claimed they wanted to lower attendance. I'm just amused at you, of all people, talking about someone posting the same things over and over again.

But, for the record, we've got a trip booked for September and are looking forward to it. Unlike many people here apparently, we're still Walt Disney World fans. To each his own I suppose.

Oh I don’t deny repetitive…we kill time here

But I don’t try to be intentionally disingenuous or misleading. My comments are formed by work experience combined with decades of study and observation

Not twisting basic economic principles - incorrectly - that don’t apply to Disney

 

[davis_unoxx]

This is right now view from the monorail, for how ever much the Contemporary costs this doesn’t seem acceptable to have the roofs this dirty.